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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:37 PM
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Why would anybody here want to see GWB impeached?
Why not ride the wave of his unpopularity right into the White House in '08?
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:39 PM
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1. For some of us its not only about elections, but holding those in power accountable
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 03:42 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
for their actions. Bush has done so much to destroy America, murder, fuck up our freedoms, and other awful shit don't you think he should be held accountable?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:44 PM
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6. Agreed. To reestablish that the rule of law applies to all of us ...
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 03:46 PM by krkaufman
... and is *especially* relevant for those in positions of power.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:56 PM
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14. Not only should they answer for their crimes (especially *), but
we also need to prevent them from posting another hack to the SCOTUS. If they stack the court, it could be decades before it can be rectified.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:39 PM
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19. Count me among the "us" n/t
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 05:29 PM by NNN0LHI
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 07:05 PM
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29. You presume that he can't be held accountable without being impeached
A false presumption.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:40 PM
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2. Because AMERICANS ARE DYING RIGHT NOW in Iraq!
... and because he is a criminal and a traitor to America.

Oh, and he ordered the mass murder of, perhaps, a million+ brown people.



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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:41 PM
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3. Because he is a mass murderer
And he ought to be thrown in jail as far as I'm concerned.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:42 PM
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I'm hung up on that whole "justice" thing....nm
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:42 PM
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4. Its not a game..
He is a serious threat to everyone on the planet.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:42 PM
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5. Because we want to see him tried and convicted at The Hague,
and impeachment seems like a step in the right direction.
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:46 PM
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7. Oh, I Don't Know -
Maybe a lingering belief in the myth that people should be held accountable for their crimes? Certainly I find that more important than who (momentarily) occupies the White House at some future date.
You see, this isn't (to my mind at least) a matter of who wins or who loses - this goes far beyond any previous Republican versus Democrat elections. This is a fight for the very soul of our country. These people (Bush & his cronies) don't just wish to win an election - their plan is for the very destruction of our democracy.
So, even if it meant losing the White House in 2008, I think it vital that BushCo be held accountable for their crimes - and it may well be the last chance we get as free men & women.
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:47 PM
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8. I'd love to see him impeached simply for payback for what they did to Clinton, but in reality
I would rather see them try to impeach a few of the SCOTUS justices, Tony-boy Scalia in particular!
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:49 PM
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9. Because we will be stuck with President Cheney
n/t.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:53 PM
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12. In the run up to impeaching Bush* I imagine they might find some
reason to file criminal charges against Dick in addition to the impeachment charges on Bush* We'd take out two birds in one fell swoop - to mangle my analogies.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:51 PM
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10. It's the First Step To His Hanging
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 03:54 PM by Demeter
and if ever this country is going to heal, straighten up, and fly right, it has to happen.


Besides, can you envision how the world would admire us for it? We would repair in minutes all the damage on the world stage Bush has done to American prestige, reputation, standing, moral strength, everything! It would be the true mark of the advantages of democracy, for the skeptics, and of America, for the scoffers.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:52 PM
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11. Impeach because * merits it and it is the right action to take.
His crimes are against the United States and it's citizens. His crimes must be punished.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:55 PM
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13. YES! He doesn't have to be in office to Impeach him.
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 03:56 PM by in_cog_ni_to
We could get our important work done and when he's out of office in '08 STILL IMPEACH his ass. By then, Conyers will have more than enough evidence of war crimes.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:52 PM
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21. Can we do it while he's in the Netherlands?
'Cause The Hague will be busy with him, too, I'm sure.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:56 PM
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15. I see it as a last resort
to be used in any of three cases:

First, he invades Iran.

Second, he tries to institute the martial law he gave himself permission to institute.

Third, he vetoes every bit of legislation that crosses his desk that originated in a Democratically controlled Congress.

All three are possible, sad to say, although I do hope they're improbable. Congress will have NO CHOICE should any of these three things occur.
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:35 PM
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16. Axe */cheney and its...President Pelosi
Most likely not going to happen but wouldn't that be something.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:37 PM
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17. So if we do the right thing, we are guaranteed failure in 08?
Bogus.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:38 PM
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18. Because it's right and just.
Why not ride the wave created by his impeachment and the meticulous public airing of his many crimes? I'll bet we can walk and chew gum at the same time, too. One does not preclude the other.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:42 PM
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20. Having him walk around as an arrogant - stay the course lame duck
may further Democratizes the populace. Murcains are not known for their long memories. Don't get rid of Bush. You'll just end up with Cheney or McCain. The first is too scary for words..the second to well-liked.

Think strategically. Right now Liberals have to win 2/3 of the moderates to win. Why not keep the puppet in the WH so moderates will learn to hate neocons & right wingers too?

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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:54 PM
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22. What if he gets us all killed before 08?
We can't afford the luxury of complacency.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:58 PM
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23. Can't see letting him continue destroying our country because it might benefit us politically. n/t
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 07:04 PM
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27. That assumes he will be able to continue destroying your country
if he's not impeached.

Which is an incorrect assumption.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 05:01 PM
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24. That's the moral equivalent of getting "political capital" on the 9/11 corpses.
Detestable.

War Criminals belong in prison. All of them!

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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 07:04 PM
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28. Nonsense.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 05:02 PM
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25. It's not always about winning; a little moral acountability. nt
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 07:02 PM
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26. That assumes he can't be held accountable without being impeached.
Which is obviously not correct.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 07:06 PM
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30. No, you are absolutely right. nt
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 07:07 PM
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31. In a word, accountability.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 07:11 PM
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33. See post 26. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 07:08 PM
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32. There's the little matter of being able to pardon his co-conspirators,
among many other reasons already mentioned.
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