"I have gay friends but I'm still against gay rights/gay marrage"-WTF

[tinfoil tiaras]

Thats like saying "Oh, i have black friends but I don't like the fact that their black and therefore they shouldn't have the same rights as me" :wtf:

This has probably been posted before, but seriously :crazy:

[otherlander]

1. There's a girl in my school like that.

She also thinks that evolution doesn't exist, and all the Jews are going to hell.:yoiks:

[Kerrytravelers]

5. Not getting much out of that education, is she?

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[otherlander]

11. No, but she thinks she's learning alchemy

:crazy:Don't ask...

[tinfoil tiaras]

7. holy crap

i'm christian but i totally belive in evolution and I don't think that Jews are going to hell...she's a part of the insane Fallwell crowd :crazy:

[Kerrytravelers]

2. Ah, yes the old "love the sinner" fundie crap that makes no sense.

There is NO SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Except for the right wing need to hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tinfoil tiaras]

9. indeed

the only sin is hate.

didn't jesus say to love your neighbor. yet more right wing hipocracy... :eyes:

[Kerrytravelers]

12. Their hypocrisy never ends.

I always wondered how much truth was really found in the Larry Flynt suggestion about jerry falwell and his mother in an outhouse. These fundy fruitcakes often get the most heated about what is really the truth- and falwell sued over that!

[tinfoil tiaras]

15. Hahahaha,

really. Wow...looks like Jerry has some splainin to dooooo!! :evilgrin:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

3. That's how I feel about it, too.

But it's a really common line.

[BattyDem]

4. Who needs friends like that?

Seriously. If I had a "friend" who didn't think that I deserved the same exact rights that he/she had, I wouldn't want that person in my life.

[tinfoil tiaras]

8. I think the people that say that are just making it up

they really don't have gay friends at all, they just want to make their views seem more "acceptable" :eyes:

[BattyDem]

10. That's probably true

:eyes:

[Kerrytravelers]

14. I've always thought the exact same thing.

Because, if you have a friend, then suddenly all your bigoted beliefs are now legitimate. :eyes:

[Mythsaje]

6. With friends like these...n/t

[casus belli]

13. I have heard racism justified with disclaimers as you suggest

It typically goes along with the N-word dropped in a conversation, and the owner of the racist comment declaring (after realizing that those listening are appalled by the audacity of the expression) either "Oh, I'm not racist, I have lots of colored friends.", or "Well, you know, the N-word isn't just for black people. It can be used for white people too." though strangely, you never do see it used in such a context outside of that argument.

Racism is very difficult to get around. It typically stems from fear, which is very hard to get around, and equally hard is getting the racist to realize that fear is what motivates or embellishes their hatred.

[SoCalDem]

16. I have friends who need food, but I am against feeding them" n/t

[Zambero]

17. Or Germany in the late 1930's

I have freinds who are Jewish, but Hitler seems to have a good solution for them.

[KittyWampus]

18. It's the word "Marriage" and this isn't just far-right religious Fundies

hence my thread last weekend suggesting that the word Marriage be stricken from the license that every American couple signs at town hall when they want to join households and changed to Civil Union.

You can argue that every person who has a problem using the word marriage for gay couples is a bigot... but it won't help move things forward in a practical sense.

Making EVERY couple (straight or gay) sign a Civil Union license will move things forward and afford EVERY couple their Civil Rights immediately.

Everyone has their blind spots.

[Withywindle]

19. That's a pretty skeevy definition of "friend"

Translation: You're fun to hang out with, but I don't really care about your happiness or your fully-human status.

[dddem]

20. I know a gay woman who thinks like that!

She thinks marriage should be between a man and a woman (she's been in a committed relationship for 6 years). She says that's just the way she was brought up. I told her that I was brought up to believe only Catholics would go to heaven, and I rejected the notion because it's crap. She really couldn't argue with me.

It's really not at all about what you think; it's about how you were trained to NOT think.

That's why we have to keep trying to educate people. And straight people like me need to open our mouths about civil rights and common courtesy, and common sense and equality for all Americans. And how it's not a good thing only when it's good for you. It's a good thing because it's the right thing.

Peace.

[sarge43]

21. A fun thing to do with the "some of my best friends are" crowd

is ask them the names of these friends. That usually gets them on their bicycles back peddling.

[tinfoil tiaras]

22. of course...because these "friends" are probably figments of their imaginations

[sarge43]

23. More often than not. That's why it's fun. n/t