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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:18 PM
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What do you guys think about this?
Some wingnut has peppered my daughter's elementary school grounds with Allen signs (her school is the voting place on Tuesday)

Now, these signs aren't technically on anybody's private property, in fact, as a taxpayer in this fair commonwealth, I could argue that they are on MY property.

Election day is three days away; and everyone who drives by the school, on their way in or out, is going to see these signs.

I say they're fair game for removal. In fact, I'm picking up my son from Homecoming in about 15 minutes and I think we OWE it to the community to remove these eyesores.

What say you, wise DUers? Remember, this ISN'T someone's yard, but a public place.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:19 PM
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1. Are there any laws in Virginia having to do with not
campaigning in any way within 100 feet (yards?) of a polling place? If so, that might be grounds for removing the signs.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:21 PM
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3. They are 100 feet from the entrance to the door to the school, but they're SO unsightly.
I think the blight on the community alone is worth the risk.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:32 PM
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17. Then I say, go for it!
Either remove them, or get a big red marker and write "MACACA" on all the signs. :rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:20 PM
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2. Go for it and remove them! Do you happen to have any replacements? nt
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:22 PM
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5. Not enough. I thought about printing a sign from my computer that said
IS a wife beating Racist to put under Allen's name. Too much? I didn't think so either.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:24 PM
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8. We know about racist, but wife beating? Clue me in, and pls. don't
put anything out there that's speculation.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:25 PM
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10. LOL. You must have missed the threads in the VA forum this week.
We've been telling folks that 'there is speculation on the internet that he beat his first wife'.

No harm. No foul.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:32 PM
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18. I heard about spit, not wife-beating. And yes, it's not
common knowledge to my c.k.! That would be something but wouldn't surprise me. Having said that, :wow:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:33 PM
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20. After reading his sister's book, I wouldn't put anything past him.
That being said, the ads down here by the RNC et al are so bad they're laughable. Desperate, thy name is Macaca.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:21 PM
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4. don't do it yourself.... call the cops, the newspapers, whoever
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 11:22 PM by flowomo
make it a public stink. Going it alone lessens the impact and makes YOU the story, not the signs
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:22 PM
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6. Oh, trust me, I won't get caught.
Too much foliage; not enough light.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:24 PM
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9. well, you have now announced your plans to the world....
foliage or not.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:26 PM
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11. Really? Do you know where the school is?
Because I can tell you about 4 within a stone's throw of me with the same amount of signs.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:28 PM
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13. do what you like.... you asked for advice and I gave mine.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:30 PM
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15. Yeah, but no offense, yours didn't make sense.
They aren't doing anything they aren't allowed to do by law, so calling the cops or the news isn't going to do squat.

I'm only thinking of the children. :P
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:34 PM
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21. but you said in the OP it was ON "the elementary school grounds"
and that's not allowed where I live. If you now say the signs are legally located... that's a different story. Your plan is still a bad move.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:35 PM
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23. Dude, I said it was the polling place. Therefore it's legal.
It's right there in the OP. My issue is the length of time they'll be up. They'll be up for three days. That's wrong.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:36 PM
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24. two words come to my mind: Donald Segretti...
have fun crawling around the foliage
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:37 PM
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26. Two words come to my mind.
Bull and shit. :eyes:
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:40 PM
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31. actually, he called it "ratfucking"... and it was all one word
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 12:01 AM
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34. Yank em.....
or, you could lay them flat and see who comes out to set them back up.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:23 PM
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7. Put some Webb signs 1 inch in front of them. Fair is fair.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:26 PM
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12. I don't have enough. I only have the one in my yard.
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:29 PM
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14. call the school
I'd call the school, police, and complain - as long as it's a public school they have not business putting those up - I think. Now if it's a private school I don't think you can say anything.

Meg
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:31 PM
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16. Yes they can. It's the polling place.
My issue is that they will be up until Tuesday and they are all over the place.

I'm only thinking of the children. Well, not really.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:32 PM
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19. Schools are public property. The signs are illegal. Call the papers, TV,
radio news, the Principle, and the School Board and demand they are removed. The police should investigate, the elections office should investigate and if they find the culpret, they should be charged with littering at the least, or more depending on your local signage laws.

Make it an issue, and get those sign down ASAP.

Take pictures.

Student can wear political shirts, etc, but they can't place signage, bumperstickers, etc on the school property.

You are so right to be pissed about this.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:34 PM
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22. Actually, they CAN put them there because it is the polling place.
My issue is the length of time they will be up. Usually the signs for both camps are up only the day the polls are open.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 12:03 AM
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36. What do you mean? Why can they put up signs at polling places?
That's a new one.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:37 PM
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25. Sorry, but I think you're wrong. I voted at a public library last week;
a local school is always a voting venue where I live. And signs are always out, as they were at the library.
You can't electioneer 100' in sight of a machine from what I've heard, but after that, all bets are off. I guess that depends on the state.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:38 PM
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29. But don't they put them up and take them down on the same day?
Which would be Tuesday. I don't have a problem with that. It's the fact that there are three days before the election and the mass quantity of them that pisses me off.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:53 PM
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33. I don't think so, unless someone is 'helping'.
But here, we had early voting for about 10 days. I have seen signs up on medians for awhile that haven't been taken down, and that's public property. It's a lot less frantic here than in 04, and there are a lot less political signs, period. That could be a good thing.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 12:16 AM
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39. People stick them on medians, but i can't believe it;s legal. What's to stop big
money from placing signs on every bit of public property everywhere?

Can they place giant signs on wilderness lands so airplane passangers can read them?

Can they drape banners on the county court house?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 12:06 AM
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37. Electioneering means carrying a sign not placing one, where I live.
Or handing out flyers.

Can you place political signs at polling places that don't pertain to the candidates?

Like Impeach bush?

How's that work?

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 12:18 AM
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40. Why not wrap the library in a giant sign to support your candidate? All floors
all sides?

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:38 PM
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27. I would definitely take them down
O8)
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:38 PM
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28. The signs are illegal in my area
Call the local governemt and find out the rules. You may need to remove them to help them. :evilgrin:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:39 PM
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30. I think I'm doing my community association a favor by removing that
unsightly blight, don't you? In fact, I think it will improve property values and people will THANK me. :evilgrin:
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angry_chuck Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:46 PM
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32. Just do it
Dont mess them up but take it out of the ground and lay it face down in a pile behind the gym, conveniently out of sight until um..Wednesday? Just do it.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 12:01 AM
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35. Go for it. I would do the same thing. Mind you, I'm also responsible for stuff like this...






:rofl:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 12:06 AM
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38. Allen is filth anyway
I say go for it.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 12:36 AM
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41. Done. It was easier than I thought. Someone else had the same idea
and must have had 'sign removus interruptus'.

:rofl:


I didn't harm them, just laid them neatly behind the dumpster where they will rest until um, probably at least Wednesday.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 01:00 AM
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42. You 'may' have committed a misdeamenor ....
Sorry I wasnt here to warn you ....
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 01:01 AM
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43. Don't think so.
Public property. No damage to the signs. No witnesses.
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