MSNBC disgusts me

[JackORoses]

How can they have Olbermann, yet at the same time still function as part of the Rove propaganda machine?

Check out their homepage now. http://www.msnbc.com
Giant screensplash of 'Saddam's gonna get hung!'
followed by a terribly misleading article claiming 'Polls show Republicans keeping control of the Senate' yet the only polls they reference are their own.

Why do they continually attempt to manipulate and mislead the public?

[still_one]

1. I understand your frustration. In reality

the Democrats should take the house unless there is a low voter turnout or rigged election

Anyone who predicts the Senate is just blowing hot air, no one knows, but if the voter turnout is large, the odds favor us

[Pierzin]

3. Amen to that still_one!!! Ah yes, what did Churchill say??

about the USSR??? It is an enigma inside of a mystery inside of a cloud, or something like that. haha

[badgerpup]

10. Riddle wrapped inside a mystery inside an enigma, IIRC...

I may have gotten the order wrong...:crazy:

[still_one]

13. fool me once shame on... uhhhhh, shame on.... you fool me you can't get

fooled again, as our illustrious so-called leader would say

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

2. Not Sure What Site You're On. I Don't See That Screensplash Anywhere.

All I see is an accurate splash identifying the verdict in a way you'd expect on a news site. Not sure what your problem with it is, or what site you're going to that has a title of "Saddam's gonna get hung!", cause it definitely wasn't on the MSNBC I just went to.

[JackORoses]

6. of course,

It doesn't literally say that. But that is the message.
It's taking up most of the Homepage. Sure it's news, but they are pushing it to the extreme.

Quit playing dumb. You know exactly what's going on.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. Whether You Like It Or Not, It Is Absolutely A Big Enough News Story To Be

in a splash screen at the top of their page. To think for a second that any large news site wouldn't have it displayed in such a way is naivety to the extreme in my opinion. I think it's quite unfair how you characterized their headline, as they did no such thing. It is a breaking story, and they presented it as such. I didn't see in their article at all any overly extreme or propagandistic views that warrant outrage. Not sure where that outrage is coming from.

[JackORoses]

14. i agree

that it will appear that way everywhere. A big attention-grabber. 'Hey, look over here'
I am not naive. I know we are a fairly morbid society who appreciates a good hanging. CSI is a number one show here, for goodness sakes.

My real problem is the follow up directly beneath of 'Polls show Republicans hold the Senate'.

The Saddam story is used to grab a readers attention which is then literally or subliminally fed the lying headline.
In tandem, these two news stories distort what a person perceives.

Understand the outrage now?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. Nope. As A Matter Of Fact, I Understand It Now Less Than Ever.

The headline of the Senate polls isn't in any way directly intertwined with the Saddam story. I think you're really reaching here. It is just a headline with a list of other headlines. Furthermore, at this moment that headline is accurate. The polls do appear to show right now that the repubs will hold the Senate. Polls tomorrow may say otherwise. They're just polls. Sometimes they go our way, sometimes they don't. But we can't just tout them and their headlines as gospel when for us, but dismiss them as propaganda when they don't. The article was written accurately and once again I saw no extreme propaganda in it. So a some polls now show winning the Senate might be really tough. Big deal? Who knows how it will really turn out, but we must admit as far as the Senate is concerned we have some pretty big challenges to overcome. I'm hopeful we still may. But I'm not going to act outraged that a news organization reporting recent poll results says that they now appear to show the republicans holding onto the majority. They do show that. Maybe that will change tomorrow, or maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised and see victory anyway. But from what I saw on MSNBC, they were reporting things accurately.

So no, I don't understand your outrage now. The relation of that headline to the Saddam one was borderline absurd tinkering on hilarious to me. And the notion that the poll headline itself is some travesty is also pretty silly to me. It is what it is. We ain't done yet and things can once again change. Their headline doesn't claim nor present an opinion that it is all over or hopeless. It is just explaining as it appears to be right now. In essence, it means nothing. The headline could change tomorrow, the outcome could change by Wednesday. It will definitely be a challenge, and we definitely need to ramp up the GOTV efforts as much as possible.

[JackORoses]

17. you must work for msnbc

The polls don't even support the headline. So why is it there? To catch peoples eye.

You're right, it means nothing. Except to the people who see it today and are influenced by it. That's all.
It will change tomorrow, and definitely by Wednesday, but its effect today is real.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. Nope. I Just Don't Manufacture Petty Outrage At The Drop Of A Pin.

The saddam splash was expected and was not being displayed at all in the propagandistic way you implied, and the story on the polls was also straightforward and not in any way directly linked to the saddam story or part of some conspiracy to grab readers attention so that they click on the link and take it as the gospel. Each premise in the OP I consider to be quite silly and manufactured.

[featherman]

4. Yeah, I was gonna post that article with a link this morning but

lost interest. Some biased hack writes a stupid headline.

The article itself doesn't support the headline except to the point that the DEMS need to sweep the 4 "too close to call" races (MT, VA, MO, RI). Sweeping these is what the Senate election is all about. A better headline of the ACTUAL article would have been:
"Polls indicate Senate Majority too close to call"

But what can you do with these guys and gals sometimes?

[CatWoman]

5. well, in view of this week's news

I'm surprised it doesn't say "Saddam IS hung"

[Gabi Hayes]

7. ted haggard says:

well?

[CatWoman]

9. hey sweetie

:hi:

behaving yourself today? :)

[Mugu]

8. Being hung is good, being hanged is bad. N/T

[Vadem]

20. Good one!......

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[malaise]

11. Ignore all their polls

GM needs war.

[w4rma]

16. Saddam's pre-ordaned sentence given 2 days before the election.

Americans know that Republicans/Bush set that timing up to try to help themselves. And any focus on Iraq is good for Democrats, anyway.

[mitchum]

19. Because they're owned by WAR PROFITEERS?