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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:30 PM
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The Machine Would Have You Believe Democrats Are Slipping
Everything you hear for the next 72 hours will be supportive of the Republicans. You will hear that the polls are shifting. You will hear that the heretofore tepid Republican vote although demoralized by scandal after scandal still feels allegiance to the President and Party. You will hear of supernatural efforts by the Christian Right to get out that segment of the vote.

Don't believe a single damned word of it.

We are going to win by landslide after landslide from the Atlantic to the Pacific and when we do things are going to change. You can bet the farm on it.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:32 PM
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1. Ignore them
MSM is pro Rethug.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:32 PM
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2. They Did This in 2000, 2002, and 2004
I believe we have already started seeing DUers posting polls that claim Dems are slipping. Interesting isn't it?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:33 PM
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3. Corporate media fears their complicity will be exposed by Dem congress.
They are working now to prop up a STEAL.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:43 PM
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11. Exactly
I've always felt if we don't win by a lot, we don't win. These should be the
happiest days in a long time for all of us here at DU but I think many of our
spirits are dampened a bit because we don't trust the voting system at all and that's truly sickening. Talk about raining on our parade.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:33 PM
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4. K&R
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:35 PM
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5. But it is amazing to see how they operate in machine-like fashion
Goebbels would have been proud.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:36 PM
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6. Oh, but of course.
It was the same way over the last three cycles.

I've given up on TV news--it's nothing but third-rate infotainment horseshit.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:39 PM
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8. There will only be two reasons why we won't win the house
low voter turnout

a rigged election

I do NOT see this to be a low voter turnout for us...


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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:38 PM
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7. Where have you heard this?
I'm not hearing that on anything I'm watching/listening to.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:40 PM
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9. The CW in the last 72 hours before election day 1994 said
that Democrats would hold Congress, and only lose about 20 seats in the House and 2 or 3 in the Senate. A Washington Post poll came out with the Democrats ahead of Republicans in the generic ballot, 50%-45%.

Do I need to repeat what happened next?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:41 PM
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10. It's all outlined in "The Management of Expectations"
Every confidence scam artist, snake-oil salesman, and propaganda minister does this. I've voted in over twenty general electsion (every one since I was eligible) and it's been the same every time ... but far worse in the last three.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:47 PM
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12. Yep, already heard it on the Sunday morning "pundits". Fuck 'em
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:48 PM
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13. bet your own farm, thank you very much.
if i was into farm betting i'd bet that the republicans will DESPERATELY, AND I MEAN REALLY DESPERATELY, try to steal what they can. they have proven themselves to be pretty damn good at it, too.

careful you don't buy the farm.
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:49 PM
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14. They have to make the public believe they are "closing " so they can steal it more easily.
I just don't trust those black boxes, or last minute poll surges.

I don't put ANYTHING past the Reich Wingers---they have stolen elections successfully, and nothing was done to protect us from them doing it again.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:50 PM
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15. I've had the TeeVee on in the background tuned to MSNBC
and that is all I'm hearing now. It's now all about how the Senate races are tightening and the Repukes are gaining in all races, ie: Scarborough.

Bullshit.

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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 02:54 PM
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16. media trying to keep Democrats away from voting booths
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 03:03 PM
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17. The newsrooms are like creative development departments in movie studios
They actually address news stories like movie scripts in their staff meetings, pondering how they can build more drama and conflict in the story. The media wants a close race so they can sell TV commercial time. It's always about the money; even the journalistic truth is about the money.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 03:25 PM
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18. Exactly...
... just what has happened in the last few days that would "tighten the race"? Nothing, that's what. If anything, the gap is widening.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 03:53 PM
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19. Right on cue, isn't it? It's meant to give you a queasy feeling in the pit of
your stomach, and prepare you to realize that your fellow and sister Americans are, as a whole, really stupid people, in whom you should lose faith, because they vote for unjust, heinous war and torture, massive thievery, massive unlawfulness, multiple tax cuts for the super-rich and a $10 TRILLION mortgage on our future (despite all other polls saying they don't support these things at all). They just love George Bush and trust him that Jesus will tell him what to do.

They want you to believe these nutjobs are the majority, and crawl out of their cobwebby medieval churches every election day, to vote for Jeebus, and then crawl back into invisible musty corners of America, where they don't answer the telephone for pollsters.

However, I don't think it's going to be quite as bad as 2004. For one thing, ordinary voters are finally realizing what's going on, and are voting by Absentee Ballot in droves (in the 30 states where it is permitted)--a huge increase in AB voting in direct proportion to the cancerous spread of Bushite-controlled electronic voting machines. These voters don't trust the machines--they've gotten the word--and are trying to find away around the rigged electronics. This is a very important difference from 2004. The word is out. Therefore, the electronic voting corporations are in some danger of losing their election theft capability. And I think they will temper the vote stealing in craftier ways than before--and I think they started way back in the primaries. Notice how many Dems are running whom people have to hold their noses to vote for? I call them the "Bushite Democrats"--like those who voted for torture and suspension of habeas corpus the other week. (Diebold/ES&S controls results in our primaries as well as general elections.) I think we are going to see a Dem majority in the House, but with a large component of these "Bushite Democrats" as the swing votes. They will prevent impeachment and any real reform. The Senate will keep a Bushite majority (probably Repub) to further block impeachment and serious reform. This would be the smartest strategy for the rightwing Bushite corporations that control almost all the vote counting in the country (with TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code).

I may wrong. They may just steal it all. They DO have the capability. The AWESOME pro-Dem polls, and then the phony Bushite "surge" at the end, does follow a pattern. If combined with a big theft of all the seats, the pro-Dem polls could be a psychological strategy aimed at demoralizing the majority (--something I've strongly suspected the Dark Lords of orchestrating). It's similar to putting a tasty meal in front of a tortured prisoner, then pulling it away and "waterboarding" him, and sending him back to his cell and starving him for a few more days, until he "talks" (--in our case, the purpose is to cause us to give up working for progressive change, in utter hopelessness).

There really isn't anything in place to stop them. And Hastert pre-emptively swearing in Bilbray in the CA-50 special election, before all the votes were counted, certainly haunts me. What would the Dems do in the face of massive fraud, and mass use of pre-emptive swearing in of Bushites, while challenges and recounts were occurring? Do the Dems have enough fight in them to cry foul and stop it? I dunno. They don't have a great track record.

But a lot of things have changed since 2004--besides the huge rise in public consciousness about election fraud, and Bushites' miserable polls (on-going for some time now). Meltdown in Iraq. Public consciousness of massive theft, abject failure of every Bush policy, utter hypocrisy and immorality of Republicans, massive abuse of power, the great discontent of the U.S. military and other establishments like the intelligence community. Bush's inability to get rid of Rumsfeld (--I don't think Bush has the power, let alone the courage, to do it), despite the great discontent in the ranks. Katrina (--a biggie)--the callousness and studied "incompetence" of these dirtbags. Also, there is quite a lot of evidence of a split between the Bushites and the Corporate Rulers (--for instance, the corporate news monopolies springing an old pedophile sex scandal on the Republicans four weeks before the election--that was truly strange and unprecedented). Perhaps the Bushites have become bad for business. They have most certainly given Corporate Rule a bad name. Need to staunch that heavy odor--with a bit of fireworks investigation, then reconciliation of the "old boys club" (the Dems and the Corporate Rulers). (I saw 'em do it with Iran/Contra. The winks, the nods.)

Anyway, it's not just the natives who are restless. Some of the powers-that-be seem unsettled as well. And that will likely mean that SOME change will be permitted, but, until we get off our citizen behinds and fundamentally reform this putrid election system and get transparent, verifiable vote counting, the change is going to be disappointing, and far, far less than what is needed to repair the extensive Bushite damage to our country and its people (and to other peoples), and to achieve real democracy in the U.S.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:55 AM
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21. Jeebus would want Hand Counted Paper Ballots NOW! K&R great post as usual Peace Patriot
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 04:56 PM
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20. So when they rig the ballot boxes, everyone will nod and say, oh yea
they turned it around in those lasst few days!!
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