DSCC refusing to give aid to Lamont? Is this true?

[Mass]

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/11/lieberman_looks.html

Lieberman Looks Up

The Lieberman campaign is feeling both feisty and confident. They can start checking names off their list of Democrats who turned on the three term incumbent after his August primary defeat.

The Lieberman people took delight early last week in telling a story of John Kerry’s rebuff by Senate Democratic leaders when he lobbied them to lend some aid to Democrat aristocrat Ned Lamont’s flagging campaign. Lieberman’s campaign is delighted it still has friends in high places. They received added satisfaction when Lieberman got to pile on Kerry mid-week as the haughty Massachusetts neighbor limped off the campaign field.
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[KingFlorez]

1. Well, there were more winnable races that needed money

I can see why they wouldn't want give to Lamont if this is true

[jab105]

2. UGH! And that's why Lamont loses...

:(

[NYCGirl]

3. I guess it all depends if you believe a story put out by the Lieberman camp.

[Tesha]

4. Remember this the next time we lefties are told to "hold our noses"...

Remember this the next time we lefties are told to "hold our noses"
and vote for the DLC's candidate just because they have a "D" after
their name on the ballot.

When it was *OUR* guy with the "D", the DLCers screwed him!

Tesha

[MADem]

9. Well, that's a pretty childish argument. Especially since those horrible

DLCers you are bitching about got behind LAMONT, not Lieberman. But don't let facts get in the way of a good diatribe.

http://lamontblog.blogspot.com/2006/06/dlc-chairman-to-support-primary-winner.html

http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/08/08/breaking-news-first-dem-leader-steps-up/

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/25/D8JNM09G0.html

Way to foster party unity two days before an election....sheesh.

[Mass]

14. But none has been campaigning for him.

I do not think that the aid was about money, but about people stumping for him.

[MADem]

22. No, it was about money, and the reason they were cheap with it is because Lamont is rich, frankly

and they are being frugal. They're thinking downstream to 08, certainly.

The heavy hitters gave Ned MAJOR help with goons http://www.wonkette.com/politics/clinton/harry--hillary-loan-top-goons-to-lamont-campaign-196756.php and smart tacticians are really worth more than just dough, any day. They can stretch a dollar a country mile.

You gotta realize that ALL politics is LOCAL, and Ned is running a bit left of some of these DLC silverbacks. They're giving him advice and staff, but they've got to tread lightly themselves or Rove will have a field day.

And Ned isn't the sort of candidate who NEEDS a shitload of reflected light. He's done very well in bringing a good mix of PEOPLE, not just politicians, to his cause and at the same time, staying at the center of the campaign, not overshadowed. And he's relentless in his themes. That's a good thing, because his themes are all centered around two things--CHANGE and IRAQ.

And he's had quite a few folks helping him:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/08/edwards_to_camp.html
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060928/D8KE3B400.html
http://www.forbes.com/business/commerce/feeds/ap/2006/11/03/ap3144774.html
The Paul Newman commercial, on the front page, is great.

Here's what I think, FWIW. If you live in CT, and you are NOT involved in GOTV efforts in the next two days, you (and that is a broad, general, collective you, not directed at YOU, personally) are an asshole. Lamont CAN pull this off, it will be tough, but it can happen....he's going to need MASSIVE, aggressive, can-I-drive-you-to-go-vote-Grandma GOTV. People need to go to the college campuses and roust those lazyass 18-22 year old "Yeah man, the concert for Lamont was BITCHIN....but I uh, slept in an' forgot ta vote" types (you know, about 60-70% of them, at a minimum), and they need to start herding them to the polls EARLY, not at five PM. GOTV can win this for him. I wish him luck.

[Tesha]

21. So what are all these Dems doing who are "behind Lamont"?

So what are all these Dems doing who are "behind Lamont"?

Do they, like, raise their G&Ts and drink a toast to him at
K Street cocktail parties or something? 'Cause they sure
aren't on the ground in Connecticut trying to get the
NOMINATED DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE elected!

But I'll bet they'll be back singing the "Got to vote for
the D!" song the next time it's one of their asswipes
running.

Tesha

[MADem]

23. See post 22. And do a little research. NT

[Tesha]

27. I see. Nothing that actually requires "showing up"...

I see. Nothing that actually requires "showing up" and
risking any of their gilded reputations on the NOMINATED
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.

That's what I figured.

Tesha

[MADem]

28. Yep. You figured right. You rob Peter to pay Paul, and the GOP ends

up in Peter's seat.

But hey, rest on your ideologically pure laurels. That's how we lose elections.

[Tesha]

31. Nahhh -- you lose elections when you drive off the base.

> But hey, rest on your ideologically pure laurels. That's
> how we lose elections.

Nahhh -- you lose elections when you drive off the base.

And that's what the DLC has been specializing in for
the last 14 years or so.

The obvious policy os that Lefties can shove off except
when you need our votes.

Tesha

[MADem]

34. Nonsense. But a "my way or the highway" attitude is unhelpful in the extreme.

Just as the Monkey ran left and ruled right, the Democratic Party, on a national level, tends to run right and rule left. If you looked at our history, you'd see that. As an example, Clinton ran way right, and the first thing he did after trying to get Hill to fix health care in lefty fashion (not successful, but he at least tried), and that dogged him for the rest of his days, was DADT. Now that was quite the "lefty" thing, from his position, to do--hardly in keeping with the hard right tag people put on him, though some claimed that first step was insufficient. I do believe that the next Democrat will take the next step over that line, and the reason they'll be able to do it is because Bill made the first move.

Compromise is what ADULTS do. When you can't get it all, you take some, and wait for better opportunities. For some, though, it's NEVER enough.

Of course, some would prefer to remain rooted in their ideology and have about as much utility to pressing a party victory as a lawn ornament, while others are pragmatic and do what needs doing to get out the vote and call in the chips they're able to after the fact.

But then, if you are just griping, and not volunteering, your voice has less weight.

[Tesha]

35. DADT was a *RIGHT-WING* policy.

DADT was a *RIGHT-WING* policy.

It was a clue that Clinton had no balls at all for standing
up to the Right, and once they smelled that fear, they closed
in for the kill.

The rest is history.

A truly left-wing policy would have been "Don't ask 'cause
we just don't care."

Tesha

[MADem]

5. Well, it's HOTLINE/NJ for one thing, and all they are doing is repeating a story

they heard from some asswipe in the Rove, er, Lieberman camp. Keep this shit in mind: http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/467912p-393536c.html

Republicans peeling off checks for Joe Lieberman at Mayor Bloomberg's house Wednesday night were abuzz with the possibility that the Connecticut senator will join their party if reelected Tuesday.
Lieberman, a three-term incumbent who is running as an independent after losing the Democratic primary to anti-war candidate Ned Lamont, has found a friend in Bloomberg and other Republican heavy hitters who packed the fete.

It raised $1 million from the likes of David Boies, Ambassador John Loeb, Sears heiress Nina Rosenwald, fund-raiser Jim Kaufman, former Goldman Sachs chairman John Whitehead, Roy Goodman, a vociferous Al D'Amato, lawyer Ed Cox (son-in-law of Richard Nixon) - and even Democrat Ed Koch.

"His Democratic buddies Chris Dodd and Ted Kennedy screwed him," a Republican guest told us. "People are hoping he'll switch parties. He votes with the Republicans a lot. He's one of the last few statesmen."

[ananda]

6. Dems look so snaky and errr Reeptile..

.. in the Lieberman Connecticut business.

I'm at the point where I only vote Dem as the lesser of evils.

All of politics is starting to disgust me mightily. Mightily. Yuk.

It could very well be that there's really only one party:
the business fascist party, with two wings. Double yuk.

Sue

[madfloridian]

7. Good for Kerry and shame on Lieberman and the DSCC

The Clinton people are supporting Lieberman full force and ignoring Lamont since the primary. A token 5 thousand from Hillary, that's it.

Here is only part of the list of the national Dems for Joe:

http://www.joe2006.com/free_details.asp?id=97#natchapter

Former Senator David Boren, OK

Former Senator John Breaux, LA

Former Senator Richard Bryan, NV

Former Senator Dennis DeConcini, AZ

Former Senator J. Bennett Johnston, LA

Former Senator Bob Kerrey, NE

Former Congressman Norman D'Amours, NH

Former Congressman Buddy Darden, GA

Former Congressman Cal Dooley, CA

Former Congressman Ben Erdreich, AL

Former Congressman Mike Espy, MS

Former Congressman Don Fuqua, FLA

Former Congressman Frank Guarini, NJ

Former Congressman Peter Hoagland, NE

Former Congressman Ken Holland, SC

Former Congressman Earl Hutto, FLA

Former Congressman Jay Johnson, WI

Former Congressman and Mayor Ed Koch, NY

Former Congressman John Krebs, CA

Former Congressman Mel Levine, CA

Former Congressman Jim Lloyd, CA

Former Congressman Matt McHugh, NY

Former Congressman Ron Mottl, OH

Former Congressman Tim Penny, MN

Former Congressman Stephen Solarz, NY

Don Baer, Director Of Communications - Clinton Administration

Mark Brzezinski, Former Director of National Security Council – Clinton Administration

Ash Carter, Former Assistant Secretary of Defense - Clinton Administration

Bill Danvers, Senior Director for the National Security Council - Clinton Administration

Lanny Davis, Special Counsel to the President - Clinton Administration

Stuart Eizenstat, Former Deputy Treasury Secretary – Clinton Administration

Steve Elmendorf, Former Chief of Staff to House Democratic Leader Dick Gephardt

Al From, Founder of the Democratic Leadership Council

Bill Galston, Deputy Assistant for Domestic Policy - Clinton Administration

Jamie Gorelick, Deputy Attorney General - Clinton Administration

Martin Indyk, Assistant Secretary Of State, former U.S. Ambassador to Israel - Clinton Administration

Max Kampelman, Ambassador to the CSCE - Carter Administration

Jim Kennedy, Former Spokesman for Former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore

Simon Lazarus, Associate Director of the White House Domestic Policy Staff – Carter Administration

Michael Levy, Asst. Sec. of Legislative Affairs for the U.S. Dept. of Treasury – Clinton Administration

Abbe Lowell, Chief Minority Counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives

Will Marshall, President and Founder, Progressive Policy Institute

Dana Marshall, Senior Advisor, U.S. Department of Commerce – Clinton Administration

Mack McLarty, Former White House Chief of Staff - Clinton Adminstration


John Nakahata, Chief of Staff to Chairman of the FCC – Clinton Administration

Tom Nides, Special Counsel for Congressional and Intergovernmental Affairs - Clinton Administration

Leon Panetta, Former White House Chief of Staff – Clinton Administration

Tony Podesta, Clinton Transition Team, Former Counsel to Sen. Ted Kennedy

Bruce Reed, Domestic Policy Advisor - Clinton Administration

Dennis Ross, Special Middle East Coordinator- Clinton Administration

David Rothkopf, Acting Under Secretary of Commerce for International Trade - Clinton Administration

Richard Swett, Former Ambassador to Denmark - Clinton Administration

Ben Wattenberg, Aide and Speech Writer to President Lyndon B. Johnson

Jim Woolsey, Former Director of the CIA - Clinton Administration

[Mass]

8. Good to Clark as well. He has an ad strongly supporting Lamont.

[madfloridian]

13. Dean supports Lamont also, I was just referring to the article names.

It was a good ad.

To have all the Clintonistas openly supporting Lieberman is a sin and a shame....they are showing contempt for the CT voters. I think the CT voters don't know what's really happening.

[blm]

24. I am so disgusted, mf. They don't even care how BLATANT they are now.

They plan to try and make fools out of anyone who supported Lamont.

[blm]

15. Don't forget Clark. He and Kerry both worked their asses off for Lamont.

Dean did, too.

WE all are the ones who got screwed over.

[Nite Owl]

25. Thanks for this list

I'm saving it.

[rodeodance]

10. damm. he is smirking like Jr lately!

[JI7]

11. this is the type of stuff that makes me feel like crap

around election time.

one of the things i most dread is seeing Lieberman's ass coming back to the Senate.

[blm]

12. FOCK, FOCK, FOCK Schumer - that was OUR MONEY he denied Lamont's campaign.

FOCK that whole group - and let's not pretend we don't know who they are. This was how Clinton wing focked over PRIMARY VOTERS.

[MADem]

29. Oh please. You can't be lovin' Dean and hatin' Chuck. Neither Rahm nor

Chuck would be IN their jobs if Dean wanted them gone. They can move money, wheel, deal and accomodate everyone in the big tent. Ignore those people you hate at the peril of the party. They have a shitload of POWER because THEY can raise money better than anyone else. And like it or not, it's money what greases the skids.

If we want to win, we need to start acting like a unit, from the right to the left wings of the party. The GOP win because, while they're laughing behind the backs of the evangelicals, they're giving them a kiss on the cheek in public. You ACCOMODATE first, then you pursue the agenda of the bulk of the party, while throwing crumbs to the outliers.

It's how it works. Like it, or not.

[bullimiami]

16. lieberman has been a shitty democrat and a crappy republican.

the only thing you could count on is his support for the iraq war and I guess thats his misguided method of supporting israel.

i just cant imagine why anyone would vote for him at all.

[texasleo]

17. Lamont will not be losing because of a lack of money.

There is no reason to spin his loss that way.

[Mass]

19. aid is not only money, it is assistance, people stumping for him

a way to show people in CT that the Democratic Party was strongly behind him.

As I said, I do not know if the story is correct, but it certainly correspond to the situation on the ground, where many Democratic Senators(and ex) campaigned for Lieberman and very few for Lamont.

[blm]

20. Not just money, it's COMMITMENT. He won Dem primary, they didn't COMMIT

to his campaign from the getgo. And part of that IS money support.

[karynnj]

18. This also makes the HeyJohn thing worse too

Kerry was raising money for candidates - including the DEMOCRAT in CT and was out working for candidates. Then he had to deal with that smear attack coming from the DSCC.

[wisteria]

26. Well, it is shaping up to be the same old boys and girls club once

again. Screw the Democrats that didn't want him as their Senator and voted against him in the primary. Screw us the net roots, they take our money, pretend they are fighting for us they drive in the screws with a drill.
I feel bad for Kerry and others that worked hard for lamont. They were totally on their own. I especially feel bad for Kerry, because he continually sticks his neck out for us and does the right thing, and the Dem's and re pubs alike kick him in the teeth. I don't feel so good about any real change coming into our party, when we can't get rid of the dead wood.

[MADem]

30. Well, you're feeling just like the GOP wants you to feel.

Next you might as well just say why bother, roll over and skip the elections.

Go do a little precinct walking, it will clear your head and raise your endorphin level. Now's not the time to go all gloom and doom...

[mmonk]

32. They got it wrong in the Lieberman camp.

He turned on the party.

[WI_DEM]

33. It's true because they don't want to offend Lieberman

it's also why Bill Clinton never did a rally for Lamont like he did for Lieberman prior to the primary.