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Grebrook Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:20 AM
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This IS IT! Ohio GOP implodes! Brown pulls into 24% lead, more than 1/3 voting straight Dem tickets!
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 02:23 AM by Grebrook
I have always said that, if for some reason, the national polls start to tighten up and people get worried, look no further than Ohio, where Dems will win big no matter what the national environment is, because the state environment has choked every elephant in sight. Republicans are doomed in the Buckeye State.

http://www.dispatch.com/?story=dispatch/2006/11/05/20061105-A1-02.html

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With more than a third of Ohioans ready to vote a straight Democratic ticket, Republicans could be headed for electoral disaster Tuesday unless their vaunted get-out-the-vote effort comes through.

Fueled by a huge margin favoring gubernatorial candidate Ted Strickland at the top of the ticket, Democrats have moved into position to sweep all statewide nonjudicial offices, a new Dispatch Poll shows.

The elephant graveyard also appears ready to claim two-term Republican Sen. Mike DeWine, who trails Democratic Rep. Sherrod Brown by more than 20 points.

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The poll shows that 35 percent are voting a straight Democratic ticket, twice those casting a party-line GOP vote. Perhaps even more telling: Almost five times as many independents are voting for all Democrats as are backing all Republicans.

Strickland is winning support from a third of those who voted for President Bush in 2004, while Brown is getting 23 percent.

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The Democratic blowout depicted in the poll is contingent on a strong turnout of party faithful Tuesday. The mail survey had 8 percent more Democratic respondents than Republican; typically, the returns show slightly more Republicans voting. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry would be president if the turnout in 2004 looked like these poll results.

That showing fuels the stunning lead for Strickland, and even Republicans acknowledge that a rout at the top of the ticket could lead not only to Democratic victories in the other statewide matchups but could spread to congressional, legislative and even county races.

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"The voter intensity is really low for Republicans and really high for Democrats," said veteran GOP lobbyist Neil S. Clark, owner of a Columbus media consulting firm. "There’s not a lot of confidence in Republicans right now."

Rex Elsass, a longtime Columbus GOP consultant, ticked off some of the factors hurting Republicans this year: scandals, an unpopular war, a president on the defensive and a governor with a microscopic approval rating.

"In any given election year, you could handle one or two of those issues, but when you’ve got this many logs on the fire, you can’t walk across the hot coals and not get your feet burned," Elsass said. "We’re living through Watergate. That’s the only thing you can compare this to. It’s bad nationally, and worse in Ohio."

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More than 20% of Republicans are voting for Sherrod Brown? That is HUGE, because Brown is very liberal. We're not talking Bob Casey or Harold Ford here, we're talking about a progressive warrior. His voting record would normally be enough to solidify Republicans behind DeWine. If Brown is catching a full 20% of the vote up-ballot, how do you think Dems are doing down-ballot in the House races, where voters know less about them and Republicans are less exposed to negative attack ads about them? If Sherrod Brown can snatch that much of the disgruntled GOP vote, the Dems must be raking it in down-ballot. Twice as many voters casting straight-Dem tickets than Republicans.

2/3 of Ohio's delegation is Republican. This is why I have remained so confident about our chances at retaking the House. Because the Republicans basically lost a guaranteed 9 seats in this election already, regardless of the national political environment, and we can truly count on Ohio to bring us in more in case we need them:

AZ-1 (Nominated firebrand right-wing nut)
CO-7 (Colorado undergoing massive political change)
IA-1 (Just a heavy Dem district, never stood a chance)
TX-22 (Delay)
FL-16 (Foley)
PA-7 (Weldon)
PA-10 ('I choked the bitch' Sherwood)
OH-18 (Bob Ney)
OH-15 (Deborah Pryce)

There are multiple seats that are now up for play in Ohio beyond those two. Jean Schmidt in the 2nd district is down in the polls, as is Steve Chabot in the 1rst district. What's important to note here is this:

There is not a single district in Ohio that has been polled in which the Republican is winning. Not a single one. They are losing in all four districts that have been polled. OH-18, 15, 1, 2.

Remember Washington state back in 1994? What happened? The Republicans massacred 5 Democrats, including the Speaker of the House, more than half the Dem delegation was lost. Well, John Boehner is from Ohio, and I'm willing to bet that the reason there haven't been any internal polls released by Republicans in any of the other districts is because the results don't look good. Make no mistake, ladies and gentlemen. Jean Schmidt is losing in the 2nd district, and she represents the MOST solid Republican district in the entire state. If we can bring her down, we can pay back the GOP for Washington, 1994.

They're all going down.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:25 AM
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1. Oh, please let this happen!
I am so hopeful now for Ohio, and my many good friends there!

This is the best news yet!

Thank you for posting ........:patriot:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:25 AM
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2. took em two years!!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:29 AM
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3. Got shodenfreuda!
Thanks:toast: :party: :bounce:
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Erechtheides Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:50 PM
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29. s-c-h-a-d-e-n-f-r-e-u-d-e
I only know that because of the song from Avenue Q. It's educational!

:bounce:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:27 AM
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34. doinka shane!
:toast:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:32 AM
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4. "...pay back the GOP for Washingtonn, 1994"? How about pay back Bush,
Rove and Blackwell for 2004?!

That's what I'm thinkin'. Beautiful, beautiful payback for all the misery they caused to Ohio voters in particular.

Ain't it sweet?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:35 AM
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5. I knew Ohio was looking familiar.
Their state Republican party is poised on the brink of the same kind of mass self-immolation that the New York Republican party started enjoying a couple of years ago.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:38 AM
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6. If Ohio goes BLUE, then I can admit to being born there again
I had divorced OH as my birthstate about a year ago.

Finally, some sense in the heartland!! OY...
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:48 AM
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15. I was born there too...
I've tried to forget it.

Not like I ever really lived there. Left when I was three months old.

:shrug:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:35 AM
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16. I was affected for first 12 years, then I left for the East Coast.
I don't consider myself a Midwesterner at all. Too much of my life spent in reality. LOL. :hi:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:39 AM
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17. And I grew up on the Left Coast. LOL
My mother's people are back there somewhere. Hell, I may have half brothers and/or sisters out there I've never met.

Or they may have gone somewhere else by now.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:43 AM
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7. Great news. Please kick through the night.
As Ohio goes...
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:49 AM
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8. Get the election protection action in gear, now!
Raise holy hell if the results don't confirm this trend.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:50 AM
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9. Congratulations Ohio!!
You guys sooo deserve it. Maybe if things start turning around in Ohio, the wave will spread south too!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:00 AM
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10. WHOO HOOO! K & R
:kick:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:00 AM
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11. Many Happy Returns!!!!!!! Congrats n/t
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:26 AM
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12. Do you think Ohioans (sp?) are pissed with their results in 2004?
Assuming these numbers hold, Republicans are in big, big trouble in 2008.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:37 AM
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13. This just goes to show how much BS the DLC's "triangulation" theories really are.
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 03:37 AM by w4rma
Many people can often tell when someone is lying and DLC "triangulation" is all about lying.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:48 AM
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14. Great!
:kick:
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:57 AM
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18. Good Morning everybody!!!Kick!
It's gonna be a Lovely week!!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:27 AM
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19. Kick! (for my Home State!).... n/t
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:44 AM
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20. O-hell-yeah !!
One more day and our wave is rising.
By tomorrow we will be roaring across
the country. O-hell-yeah Ohio !!!!!!

GOTV !!!!!!!!!!
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:45 AM
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21. RIP Mother Fuckers....!
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:48 AM
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22. Watch OHIO for election machine fraud. /nt
Dumb, arrogant local Republican organization. Think Blackwell.
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:57 AM
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23. The best part is that even the Republicans i know are watching for fraud
I work in a place that is frequented by several older fellas that are really having trouble admitting they have been duped. The other day one of them was sitting with me and he said something to the affect of...

This is a pretty strong Dem county. If the votes here go for either DeWine or Blackwell, especially considering the climate these days, we'll just have to assume it was stolen.




:patriot:

Here's to Bruce.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:54 AM
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26. Very important post here!
When Repup's admit that a win would constitute fraud, we have come a long way indeed to alerting the American people!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:21 AM
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24. I hope the new democrats investigate everything about Blackwell
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 07:22 AM by Hubert Flottz
and hang his terraist ass too.

Edit...Schmidt Happens!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:23 AM
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25. Ohio is also ground zero for shenanigans..
. . electronic vote-wise. I expect everyone is on their toes, cameras & lawyers at the ready!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:24 PM
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27. ...
*giggled at your subject line* :rofl: You are speaking the truth on that!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:29 PM
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28. The Independents are leaning Democratic in a MASSIVE way.
This was a SWEET read!

I hope they all rot in hell!

GO DEMS!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:03 PM
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30. Tomorrow morning, for the first time together,
My two sons, daughter, and I are getting up early, eating some breakfast, and going to the polls as a family to vote a STRAIGHT OHIO DEMOCRATIC TICKET.

I have the pleasure of having raised three fine children, all liberal Democrats. Best thing I've ever done.


I love saying Senator Sherrod Brown. The rest of the nation will see what a real Liberal from Ohio looks like. They may want one, just like him.


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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:29 PM
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31. Folks, you're looking at numbers that can't be plausibly Diebolded
I think it's possible that the Republicans may be preparing to throw the election.

I've said this before, but it bears repeating:

Item 1: The BFEE is poison. Everyone from us to the RNC knows it. Republican candidates are purposely missing campaign rallies if Bush is scheduled to be there. There's a few pictures from Chimp rallies in the past few days. They show pictures of the audience. I've seen more excitement at presentations by insurance salesmen. (No, I take that back. That's mean. Insurance salesmen can generate LOTS more excitement than Bush 43 these days.)

Item 2: The Republican elected leadership is collapsing in scandal.

Item 3: The RNC knows what it's going to take to fix the country--it's a four-step process requiring the closing of the Iraq War, massive spending cuts, returning the tax tables to 1996 levels and deporting Grover Norquist to Outer Mongolia. If they're in charge of Congress, they can't do any of those things without losing their "base."

Therefore...it's best that they give the Democrats a decent majority in both houses of Congress--enough of a majority that they can do the work needed to fix the country--letting them fix what's wrong, then blaming them because taxes have gone up and the tax dollars returned to the states have gone down.

Okay, okay, I know, one of the fixes is going to have to be the removal of everyone in the White House to include the guy who drives the backhoe they use to remove the bullshit from the Oval Office. (That guy we present with a large pension and a beachfront home in Hawaii.) They can't do that with a Republican majority in Congress either.

Watch for it. They claim that 50 Republican seats are in danger of switching tomorrow. I think any Republican who took Abramoff money is vulnerable.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:01 PM
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32. "The elephant graveyard."
:rofl:
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:51 PM
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33. I can't wait to
see blackwell go down tomorrow and I hope they investigate the shit out of all of em for 2004.
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