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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:57 PM
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Pelosi's #1 Priority? Investigate the GOP Propaganda Machine!
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 04:00 PM by madmusic
The GOP never had honest-to-goodness power. No, their power was always false -- based on fallacies, lies, deceit, twisted symbolism and voter manipulation. It was never real.

Starting when Reagan first struck the http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/F/htmlF/fairnessdoct/fairnessdoct.htm">Fairness Doctrine" by executive order, moving to Newt Gringrich's "Contract with America" and his http://www.propagandacritic.com/articles/examples.newt.html">Language, A Key Mechanism of Control propaganda pamphlet, the Right spun out of control and lied with impunity.

We can easily see the consequences now: the Iraq war based on deceit, the Right's extreme machine effort to taint or deny votes, sometimes even with flagrant dirty tricks that are illegal "robo calls." They may lie and tell the potential voters if they voted in the primary, they do not need to vote now. Or they may pretend to be a Democrat. Or they may lie about voting locations.

Some of it is "free speech" and legal, some is criminal.

So what do we do?

Unlike the Republicans, Democrats trust and respect voters who are informed. Democrats don't even mind losing to an informed vote. Republicans are the opposite. They think voters are stupid and deserve to be manipulated.

What we can do is put the informed voter back into their rightful standing as the centerpiece of American Democracy.

Pelosi should hold hearings on the GOP propaganda machine for a variety of reasons: a) enlighten the voters on who and what to trust, b) remind them they are in control of the government, not the other way around, c) bring attention to the false power of the GOP, and d) implement solutions.

Two obvious and fairly easily implemented solutions might be:

1. Practical logic as part of high school civics classes. Future voters could learn how they might be manipulated with words, symbols and statistics long before they vote. The GOP would hate smarter and more skeptical voters! They prefer voters who vote on faith in the government, even when, or especially when, false.

2) A study on the monopoly of the media by a few corporations. It is time we ask if corporate media and the Right are too cozy.

An investigation of the GOP propaganda machine would accomplish many vital goals, some political, some social. Obviously, the Right would fight this tooth and nail. They don't want to be found out and so that would be one political goal. More important, we have a mass media without checks and balances, so a strong democracy needs informed voters with the proper tools more than ever. It needs voters who can see through propaganda and know it for what it is. In a fast paced sound bite environment, one must already know how to be skeptical and think before believing. There is often too much information to research for truthfulness and not enough time, so logical defensive walls are a healthy first line of defense.

Let's trust the voters again, Speaker Pelosi, and give them the tools to vote with pride. And let's inform the voters exactly who would trick and deceive them and steal elections for false power.

If you agree, DUers, please kick and let's hope the bloggers pick up the ball and run with it. It is time to cut off the Right's propaganda legs. This should be a national issue of the utmost importance. The Right-wing propaganda machine should never again attain false power. Nor should any propaganda machine. Not here, not in America, not where the voter rules the nation. Enough is enough.
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jmellman Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:05 PM
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1. The most important hindrance to any kind of democarcy
Here, here. I do believe that historians will trace the decline of America to the elimination of the fairness doctrine and the ability for monopoly-like control over the media. There is no fourth estate worthy of mention any more -- we have to rely on the blogosphere for that. Whether the Democrats should waste time on this now without having a true mandate is a question that will have to wait until we see the results.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:21 PM
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2. We will NEVER get a true mandate...
As long as the spin machine is in full operation. A house ethics investigation would only plant the acorn that opens the dialogue. It takes years for the oak tree to grow strong and healthy. It will never be too early to start this, and it will always be too late until we do. As long as they can lie and deceive with impunity, elections will never be real.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 07:31 PM
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52. Hi jmellman!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:50 PM
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3. Suppose I'm a contractor who comes around after a big storm
and promises homeowners all over your town that I will fix everything the storm tore up if you'll trust me to do the job and I take a down payment on the work, that I swear I will come back and complete and I take your money and never fix anything? Well, unless I'm Halliburton, the law would track me down and throw me in jail for fraud, ASAP.

Now suppose I come along after your duly elected president is impeached by my political party and I promise you that I will bring honor and dignity back to the White House, if you will just trust me and give me your vote and I then do the things to your country that Bush has done after you trust me with your vote. I lie to you repeatedly, I steal from you and let the oil companies and utility companies rob you, I torture and kill people in your name, I spy on you and your family and I send your kids off to get killed in a war that I lied and cheated to start.

How are George Bush and the con artists who enable him on TV, any better than the common thieves, who are no doubt, still out there preying on the storm victims on the Gulf Coast and out stealing from the elderly in neighborhoods all over this country every day?
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:06 PM
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4. That's a good analogy...
And it's all done with talking points that are instantly spread across the right-wing spectrum, from bloggers, the TV pundits, to politicians, all speaking in one voice. Because everyone is saying the same thing, it must be true. Even the more unbiased media might believe it and repeat it because it is so pervasive. We are seeing something like that now with the rebound polls.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:56 PM
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5. Actually, it's a pretty weak analogy
because an election is not a contract. Maybe it should be. Maybe all campaign promises should be written down, notarized and sealed. But it isn't, and they aren't.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:27 PM
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6. Well, it's a great analogy as far as Bush swore to defend the Constitution
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 06:27 PM by file83
in his oath of office for The Presidency of the United States of America. I'm sure we can all agree that:
A) That's a contract and...
B) Bush has violated that contract.

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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:46 PM
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8. Excellent point.
How many take their oath of office as their supreme guide?

I wonder. And wonder how well they know the Constitution they swear to upload.

Maybe there should be a test on the Constitution before the searing in ceremony. :)

Many would probably fail.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:42 PM
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7. They don't need to be.
If the Repugs campaigned on "We have to X because of Y," a committee with subpoena power could investigate that. Most claims would not have criminal consequences nor would the investigation condemn free speech, but the process itself, the investigation, would reveal much. The people already know the Repugs have no qualms about lying to them. This investigation would reveal how they do it and still make it sound honest.

For example...

"We should do X because of Y" should be questioned... What is X, really. What is Y, really?

Why not do X, Y or Z?

Did propaganda present a false problem and an equally false conclusion? If the problem was real, what information was denied that prevented a real solution?

In short, what were the real facts once propaganda is removed from the equation?

This is flagrantly obvious in the propaganda that led up to the invasion of Iraq, but there are hundreds of other equally questionable polices and laws that suffered from the same twisting of the truth.

Just looking at it would keep the Repugs under the microscope, and for every false proposition revealed they would be discredited. Whats more, we would gain greatly by reforming their false policies with the aid of real facts and solutions. When the premises are false, the conclusions (polices) cannot be true and valid.

It's a win/win for the voters.

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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:25 PM
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9. This is a bigger issue than the bribery and corruption
and that is saying something.
We cannot have a democratic America without immediate media reform.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:05 PM
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10. True, even if bribery and corrpution are weeded out...
If they retain the propaganda machine, they retain power. If they retain power, the country keeps swinging to the right even when they lose elections. If the machine is in control, they don't even have to hold the house or the senate or the presidency.

Rage against the machine!
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:46 PM
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11.  Novak revises predictions downward, watch for MD to be ground zero
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:48 PM
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12. Mike Dewine is claiming on M$NBC that the democratic turnout is
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:49 PM
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13. MSNBC using Bush's former campaign lawyer for Election Day coverage
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:51 PM
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14. Prerecorded candidate calls irritating Kleeb supporters (may adversely affect voter turnout)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:52 PM
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15. I'll settle for manipulation of intelligence peior to the invasion of Iraq
Let the hostorians go back and determine what the Reagan White House did.

The immediate probelm is the Bush regime and I don't care what Ms. Pelosi says, ousting the regime is the goal.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:56 PM
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16. No, not good enough.
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 12:57 PM by madmusic
BushCo is only a cog in their propaganda machine. They only reason he failed is because he's too arrogant. If he could speak like Reagan or Clinton, we would be in big trouble. Next time the GOP will get someone more sly and cunning.

EDIT: and there will be a next time as long as their machine stays in power.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 03:53 PM
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44. You'll be investigating into the next decade and beyond.
I want the Frat Boy and the Big Dick gone -- impeached and removed as of yesterday.

Can we focus on that?
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 04:15 PM
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45. They will be gone.
And will be under the propaganda microscope for the next decade and beyond.

Win/win.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:00 PM
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17. S.C. GOV turned away at polls!!! **UPDATE**
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:02 PM
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18. RovoCalls -- the end of the "Bush's Brain" legend?
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:04 PM
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19. Help! If you find GOP propaganda/voter manipulation... Please post here.
Let's build a case.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:06 PM
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20. Conservative violates FCC rules, runs Republican ad on Emergency Broadcast System
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:07 PM
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21. Crank calls into Dem Voter Hotline....Laura Ingraham
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:15 PM
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22. FBI looking into possible Va. voter intimidation
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:16 PM
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23. CT: RNC BLACKMAIL - promise us your vote and we'll call off Robo-caller
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:18 PM
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24. GOP senate cantidate's radio ad forced on airwaves via EAS
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:21 PM
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25. AFTER shutting down K Street
Send every lobbying firm that fired Dems a letter saying that no matter what they do, they will not be allowed to speak with or meet any Dem congressman, senator or governor, or their staffs. And watch the lizards go out of business. THAT's the first thing she should do.

Evidently, there are already lawsuits being readied against the GOP for the robo calls and voter intimidation. It's possible that we can bankrupt the Repukes.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:22 PM
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27. bankrupt them! How sweet, like driving a stake into their greedy hearts.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:21 PM
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26. Dems and the toadying media: The real Problem we face
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:28 PM
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28. Initiatives Seen Key to Some Congressional Races
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:32 PM
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29. Shocking. Candidate for most disgusting robocall
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:33 PM
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30. Today: GOP issues Propaganda : "Beware of Exit Polls'
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:36 PM
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31. FOX News Can't Bring Themselves To Say Dems Have “Solid Lead”...
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:36 PM
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32. York County, VA - police pulling people over in minority district
asking for license and registration.
Heard on NPR.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:39 PM
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34. Why is that not a surprise?
They did the same thing in Florida last election.

Thanks for the post.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:38 PM
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33. Robo-calls: getting a lot of "I'm a Democrat but I'm voting for Tom Kean..."
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:40 PM
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35. Henrico, VA - Free Chick Filet sandwich with "I voted" sticker.
Local NBC TV said that a poll worker had mistakenly told them earlier that people will receive a free ChickFilet sandwich when showing their "I voted" sticker.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:41 PM
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36. NPR: "Most Uneducated People Tend to vote Democratic"
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:54 PM
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37. Who Are these three endorsing? (Fake voter guide, MD)
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:03 PM
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38. MORE WACKY CHAIN MAIL from the REPUGS! (Debunkers, start your engines!)
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:09 PM
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39. TPMMuckraker: Senior Dems Call For Probe Of GOP Robocalls (Conyers, Dingell)
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:09 PM
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40. It would be really nice if ONE DEM's priority is to restore Medicaid
to all those who have been cut off, and shortchanged.

At least, I'm assuming that human life is still important to Dems.

I'm probably wrong.

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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:17 PM
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42. We have to overcome their propagada first.
Policies based of facts, not sound bites. I don't recall what the sound bites were on Medicaid, but there were there, guaranteed.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:19 PM
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43. So, the deaths are OK with you?
I could well be one of 'em.

That's still OK with you, right?

Thanks for your compassion.

:puke:
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 04:18 PM
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46. That's not what I said.
What I said was that their propaganda puts people like you at risk because their sound bites are shallow lies. Until we get the facts out, we can't reform bad polices into good ones.

I'm sorry you're ill. Really. If you can't get the care you need, it is because they lied.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 06:23 PM
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51. Oh, that's such a comfort.
Knowing that it's "their lies", and the unconcern of the Dems makes me feel ever so much better.

And, it IS waht you said. Poor people are never a priority with the Dems anymore.

Yet, you'll yell and scream if they don't stand in line for 9 hours to vote for your candidates.

I hope someday you can get some empathy.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:11 PM
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54. Did You Spot the Fake Medicare News Spots?
Filed under:

* Media Musings

— amy @ 12:30 pm

UPDATE MARCH 15, 2005: More than 20 federal agencies have been caught producing and distributing VNRs…)

“News” stories about Medicare aired recently on several US TV newscasts – but they weren’t news, they were video news releases (VNRs) paid for by the Bush Administration, masquerading as newscast segments.

These VNRs were part of a federal public relations campaign to consolidate public support for recently passed controversial Medicare legislation. They featured “reporters” (actually actors) named “Karen Ryan” in the English version and “Alberto Garcia” in the Spanish version.

According to the Poynter Institute’s Jim Romanesko, as of March 16, 2004, these spots had aired 53 times on 40 stations. Reportedly they were not identified as video news releases – they were presented as news, and the source of the segments was not mentioned. (This is common practice for airing VNRs in many US TV newsrooms.) The New York Times broke this story on Monday.

more: http://contentious.com/archives/2004/03/17/did-you-spot-the-fake-medicare-news-spots


If there was something I could do, bobbolink, I'd do it. I'm not rich either, for what it's worth.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:15 PM
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41. NRCC General Counsel should be sanctioned by D.C. Bar Assn if involved
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 04:20 PM
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47. The GOP and experts blamed voters, guess they were wrong!
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 04:51 PM
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48. Why is Ken Melhman reading a teleprompter when talking to Blitzer on CNN??!?!
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 04:59 PM
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49. Voter disenfranchisement in Georgia
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:15 PM
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50. MSNBC Crawl: "Exit polls expected to be leaked to blogs, secret will probably be kept..."
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 07:54 PM
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53. The gop prop machine must be stopped
Without a doubt,they haveconspired and collaborated with bushco and others to enable/coverup many criminal acts committed against the people.
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