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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:02 PM
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High-yield investment opportunity: middle class need not apply.
I got a phone call today, actually a follow-up, regarding a 18-25% annual yield investment opportunity in the oilfield leasing business. The yield is historical, not pro forma. When he asked if I was a "Qualified Investor", I asked his definition of that. He asked me if our net worth was $1 mil or more, total income over $300,000 a year. "No" was my reply, so he thanked me and hung up on me. I was seriously interested reading the prospectus.

This reminds me of the old Steve Martin joke on "...how to make a millions dollars. First you get a million dollars. Then you ..." ha ha ha.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:16 PM
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1. Don't know the exact rules but
laws require one to be an "accredited investor" because these investments tend to be much riskier.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:17 PM
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2. Be careful...
Being a qualified investor means they don't have
to be as careful about disclosure as they do with
public investors. They can use a variety of legal
shortcuts instead of regular S1 or S18 registration
via the SEC.

Hedge funds have the same sort of requirements - but
that doesn't mean that all hedge funds are winners.
Some of them are big losers, which means their investors
are in the same boat.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:40 PM
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5. Wasn't there a big time bailout of one of the hedge funds
a few years ago? Long Term Capital Management I think it was.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:44 PM
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6. Yes, There Was A Bailout. I Just Finished A Paper On It for Class
No public money was used, but the Fed herded practically all of the big Wall Street firms together to bail them out privately because of the default risk that they all faced.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:17 PM
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3. High yield usually means high risk doesn't it?
At 18-25% annually, it might be safer to take the Colts over the Bills next week.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:52 PM
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7. Yep. Higher yield usually accompanies an increase in the
beta or risk of an investment.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:27 PM
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4. 19.8% over the last 9 months.


Thats what I've made so far. And It's not a piece of paper.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:00 PM
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8. 20.2% in the last 3.5 months.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ctsh

O.K., it's a piece of paper, but I've been happy with the return.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:26 PM
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9. Good deal.
I'm just not trusting enough to give my savings for a piece of paper, after what happened to my retired parents when enron went under, but I don't want my apprehentions stop anyone.

:toast:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:32 PM
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10. I hear ya. I'm looking into precious metals for next year.
There's a guy at work who happens to deal in silver coin. For Canadian Maple Leaf coins, he's selling at 25 cents over spot...no minimum.



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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:51 PM
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11. Silver could be next for me too
was about 9.50 in March and now 12.64, not bad if it keeps going.
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