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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:54 PM
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Poll question: POLL: Military Times Newspapers Say Rumsfeld Must Go
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Military Times editorial: ‘Rumsfeld must go’

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld —
Saying Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large, a Military Times editorial calls on President Bush to fire him.

Published in the Nov. 13 issue of Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Corps Times, on newsstands Monday, the editorial says it is time for the president “to face the hard bruising truth.”

“His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt,” the newspapers say.

In a statement released on Saturday, Department of Defense spokesman Bryan Whitman said that “the new ‘chorus of criticism’ noted by the editorials is actually old news and does not include commanders in the field, who remain committed to the mission….The assertion, without evidence, that senior military officers are ‘toeing the line’ is an insult to their judgment and integrity.”

http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2333376.php
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Rumsfeld must go, says US Army newspaper
By Simon Usborne
Published: 06 November 2006
In a fresh blow to the Republican Party's rapidly diminishing midterm election hopes, an influential US Army newspaper group is today calling on the Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, to resign for the "failure" of his military strategy.

The blunt message, published in the Military Times newspapers, which include the widely read Army Times, accuses Mr Rumsfeld of losing touch with military leadership and the American public.

The editorial, "Time for Rumsfeld to Go",says: "Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public. His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised." It concludes: "The time has come, Mr President, to face the hard bruising truth; Donald Rumsfeld must go."

The call could not come at a worse time for President George Bush or the Republicans. Tomorrow's elections are widely tipped to be a disaster for the party, with some predicting a Democrat recapture of both houses of Congress. The New York Times offered a fresh blow to the party yesterday saying that for the first time it was endorsing no Republican congressional candidates this year. In its editorial, the Times criticised the Republican-led Congress on matters from tax cuts to energy policy, and charged it has failed to hold Mr Bush accountable for the Iraq war.

(snip)

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1959037.ece
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Military media say 'Rumsfeld must go'
Editorial will run Monday in 4 papers popular among the forces

By MATTHEW B. STANNARD

"Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large. His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt," the editorial says, according to an advance copy released Friday. "Donald Rumsfeld must go."

The editorial will run in the 250,000 copies of Army Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times and Air Force Times. The newspapers are published under the umbrella Military Times Media Group by Gannett Co., not by the U.S. military, and have been popular among U.S. forces since World War II.

"I think it would be safe to say if the Army Times is saying that, it is something they are hearing from senior officers in the Army," said David Segal, director of the Center for Research on Military Organization at the University of Maryland.

What prompted the paper's new editorial, said senior managing editor Robert Hodierne, was President Bush's statement Wednesday that he plans to keep Rumsfeld and that the Pentagon chief is doing a "fantastic job."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/4311520.html
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Military Times Newspapers Say Rumsfeld Must Go

By LUIS MARTINEZ
ABC News

WASHINGTON, Nov. 6, 2006 — On the eve of the midterm elections, an editorial by the Army Times and its sister publications calling for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign continues to spark political debate, but the newspapers' editor denies any political motivations behind the timing of the editorial.

Tobias Naegele, executive editor of the newspapers, discounts reports that the editorial's release was politically timed to run just before the elections.

"We were really aiming past the elections," said Naegele, adding that the newspapers' editorial boards had been "accumulating" an opinion over time that Rumsfeld should step down but that Bush's comments last week were a tipping point.

"There was no reason at this stage to be committing to someone who had not been effective in the job," said Naegele. "That was the last straw. That really pushed us to want to speak out."

(snip)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2632330&page=1
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:32 PM
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1. Senator George Allen of Virginia supports Rumsfeld
(snip)

"Senator George Allen of Virginia, a likely Republican presidential contender, sharply disagreed. He said that Rumsfeld had been a victim of ''scapegoating" by Bush's political enemies, and that changing the defense secretary would not solve the problems in Iraq."

(snip)

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/17/rumsfeld_gets_more_backing_over_iraq/?page=2
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:33 PM
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2. Bob Corker supports Rumsfeld
Bob Says He Didn't Mean 'Stay the Course'

Once again, Bob tried to explain this lie he told in the last debate. However, the fact remains, Bob has said several times that we should stay the course and keep doing what we have been doing in Iraq.
“All three candidates opposed setting a deadline for the United States to withdraw from Iraq. ‘I support what we're trying to do as a country ... I think we should stay the course,’ Corker said.” -- 7/16/2006 AP

I think we do need to stay the course. I think we need to look at victory there as modest. I think having a government set up that is democratic and people in place that are able to, again, secure their citizens. The people of Iraq did not ask for us to be there. We are there, we went, and we need to make sure… that they are trained and able to take care of themselves. And then, as soon as that’s done, I do think we need to get the great men and women that are involved in defending our country and defending their county, I think we need to do everything we can, once our mission is accomplished, to get them back as our heroes here in our own country.” -- 9/13/2005 Smithville- Middle Tennessee Times

"And I think we should stay the course. I think to go back and argue about what we found when we got there, what we didn’t find, has totally, has no business in what, in our dialog today. Our dialog today should be about making sure that we do the things that we need to do in Iraq, so that they can in fact be a democracy.” -- 7/16/2006 WREG Memphis debate

http://haroldfordjr2006.blogspot.com/2006/10/debate-2-fact-check-on-bob-corker.html
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:36 PM
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3. I have your "floating head of death" on my desk at work
Whenever I see it, it makes me laugh my ass off!

My coworkers think it's funny too - nobody, and I mean NOBODY in the Northeast like Cheney or Rummy.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:47 PM
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4. Jim Talent supports Rumsfeld(?)
McCaskill calls for Rumsfeld's firing; Talent does not
AP Wire
October 19, 2006

"McCaskill, Missouri's auditor, added Rumsfeld's ouster to her Iraqi war critique during her fifth and final debate against Talent in Missouri's nationally watched Senate race. Talent declined to say whether Rumsfeld should be retained or removed, but continued his defense of President Bush's war policies."

(http://www.democratsenators.org/dia/organizations/dscc/news.jsp?news_item_KEY=3542&t=news.dwt)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:48 PM
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5. Kick!!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:55 PM
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6. Jack Cafferty doesn't support the dummy
he'll probably loose his job because of his calling him a war criminal too. dammit to hell anyway.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:01 PM
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7. Bob Beauprez: “We will never forget. We will stay the course."
"We should stay the course in the War on Terror as our President, our military and the homeland security network work to discourage attacks on our homeland."

(snip)

“We will never forget. We will stay the course. We will be victorious. For free people, there is no alternative.”

http://www.house.gov/beauprez/news/20030910-2.htm
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:20 PM
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8. Asa Hutchinson stays the course
"President Bush traveled to northwestern Arkansas Monday afternoon to campaign for Asa Hutchinson, a former congressman and Bush administration official running for governor.

In the appearance at the Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport, Bush said Arkansas Republicans had a duty to tell other voters that, if they want a good governor, they should vote for Hutchinson."

(snip)

http://www.kthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=36549
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:23 PM
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9. Adrian Smith and Pete Ricketts stay the course with Bushler and Rumsferatu
Bush boosts Ricketts, Smith

By Nate Jenkins/The Associated Press

GRAND ISLAND - President Bush on Sunday sought to inject adrenaline into the heart of the Republican-dominated 3rd District, where an Ivy League-educated Democratic ranch hand is threatening to claim what has been a GOP seat for decades.

“If Democrats are so good at being the party of opposition, let's just keep them in the opposition,” Bush said to cheers. “And the best way is to send Adrian Smith to the United States Congress and Pete Ricketts to the Senate.”

(snip)

http://www.columbustelegram.com/articles/2006/11/06/news/news1bush.txt
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:24 PM
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10. The Military Times is just a leftist commy rag!
LOL

I love that Rumdum photo. :D
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:40 PM
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11. Flip-flopping republicans dump Rummy


(snip)

For a small but growing number of Republicans, attacking Mr. Rumsfeld is a way to criticize how the war has been conducted without turning against the war itself.

“If I had my way, he wouldn’t be secretary of defense now,” Mike McGavick, the Republican challenger to Senator Maria Cantwell, Democrat of Washington, said in an interview Tuesday. “I would have accepted his resignation after Abu Ghraib. I have lost confidence in him.”

(snip)

Rich Galen, a Republican consultant who worked as a civilian employee for the Defense Department in Iraq, said: “It’s really a free shot for Republicans. You can be in favor of what we are trying to accomplish in Iraq and not be in favor of Rumsfeld.

(snip)

"Representative Christopher Shays of Connecticut, a Republican who is in a tight race for re-election in the face of attacks on his support for the war, said Tuesday that he would support a vote against Mr. Rumsfeld in the House, should it come up."

(snip)

Thomas H. Kean Jr., the Republican candidate for Senate in New Jersey, called for Mr. Rumsfeld to step aside. At a debate in Ohio, Senator Mike DeWine, a Republican in a close race, declared, “I have consistently said that Donald Rumsfeld has made mistakes running this war.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/06/washington/06rumsfeld.html?ex=1162962000&en=d5134399713bb2a9&ei=5029&partner=RRSANDIEGO
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