Meth and Man-ass: Sing along with Pastor Haggard

[rox63]

Make sure your speakers are turned up for this one: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-hipp/meth-and-man-ass_b_33326.html


:rofl:

[Rick Myers]

1. Uh-oh...

This caused a firestorm here last night... Put on your asbestos thong!!!

[rox63]

2. I must have missed it

I was out much of the day yesterday. Oh well... :shrug:

[Rick Myers]

4. No biggie...

It was the resultant discussion, not posting the song, which I think is funny. I even sent it to several lib radio producers with the subject line: "Pastor Ted's iPod hacked..."

[nofurylike]

6. no. it is the title of the song. how many times must someone

explain to you?

[nofurylike]

5. not really. mods have been very good about removing it. i hope

they will again, soon.

[Sequoia]

3. It's sad that he called his desire evil and depraved.

What is evil is how he lied and decieved his flock. That's the sin, not having sex with a gay guy or doing drugs. I sure would hate to be in his mind now.

[nofurylike]

7. would it be just fine with you for repukes to use that title? i'd bet

not. true?

so, how you think us queerfolk feel when straights do?

you think you're different?

it's the same to us: cruel and damaging.

maybe you can help dissuade the next person who goes to post this? thank you.

peace

[mondo joe]

8. Please don't presume to speak for "us" gays.

I don't think it's cruel or damaging.

[nofurylike]

10. would it be if repukes were the ones using that title? eom

[mondo joe]

18. Depends. But they're not. IT'S FUNNY.

[nofurylike]

31. "depends." so, it is different then? THEN you get it how offensive?

please be honest. imagine hearing repukes chanting it on a corner somewhere.
WOULD you be offended?

please...

[LostinVA]

34. Of course they would be -- or pretend to be, anyway

[nofurylike]

48. thank you for getting it, LostinVa. and yes, true, "or pretend to be,

anyway."

sadly too true, i now see.


peace

[mondo joe]

36. Isn't intent ALWAYS part of an offense? I think so.

I don't think this song is anti gay, no matter who sings it.

[nofurylike]

54. isn't that what all bigots say about slurs? that is how it works, isn't

it?

veiled bigotry.

and if someone doesn't get it that something is offensive, isn't the measure whether that person repairs the harm once knowing?

[mondo joe]

63. No, it's not.

If someone is offended does that mean it should be shut down so no one else can see or discuss it?

[LeftCoast]

11. Well, you're distinctly in the minority on this one

Many of us find this to be quite offensive.

[nofurylike]

19. very good point, LeftCoast. true. eom

[mondo joe]

26. And being in the minority means......?

What precisely?

[nofurylike]

57. that enough of us are hurt by it that those who claim to care about

us would not hesitate to stop it.

[mondo joe]

62. I'm sorry - are you saying the minority should set their opinion aside for the

comfort of the majority?

Are you?

[mondo joe]

20. You have no way to know - there hasn't been a poll and the threads

get removed before there can be a meaningful conversation.

[LeftCoast]

27. I've read all these threads. I know who's who.

[mondo joe]

33. Like I said, there hasn't been a poll and the threads have been removed before

there can be meaningful discussion.

So you DON'T know.

[LeftCoast]

35. OK, you believe that if it makes you feel better

:)

[mondo joe]

40. It makes me feel nothing - it's a demonstrable fact.

Those who can't stand on their own often seek to bolster their shaky opinion by pretending to speak for others.,

[mondo joe]

17. Some gay people still DO have a sense of humor:

Queerty, the gay blog (http://www.queerty.com/) says:

While we're on the subject of homo-related songs, Tony-nominated actor and all around goof ball, Paul Hipp's (pictured) penned an ingenious, riotously funny musical sermon to be crooned by disgraced Evangelical reverend, Ted Haggard entitled "Meth and Man Ass".

It may just be one of the best things we've ever heard.

Praise be, Mr. Hipp, praise be...

[nofurylike]

39. and many are self-hating. it is HERE that i am asking people to

be more sensitive, and live up to the suggestion that DU is inclusive of me.

i don't ask anything of queerty or mr hipp...

[mondo joe]

41. LOL! Now people who disagree with you are self hating?

Nice - you're almost as telepathic as the fundys. Maybe more.

[Obamarama]

45. Took the words right out of my mouth, Joe! eot

[mondo joe]

50. It's funny - I've been totally out since I was 16 - almost 30 years -

I have a partner, I have kids, I give to gay causes and I vote accordingly.

But some twit thinks because I disagree with him or her that I'm self hating.


:eyes:

[nofurylike]

60. i didn't say you are, or anyone else is. stated fact. bug you? eom

[Obamarama]

13. Hey, I'm gay and I'm cracked UP by this song...

I don't honestly get the outrage over this song. It's mocking Ted Haggard, not gay people. People need to loosen up and laugh a little more and not take life so seriously.

[Obamarama]

9. The outrage over this song by a few and it's removal from DU is over the top.

I'm gay and it doesn't offend me one bit. It portrays Pastor Ted as the duplicitous shitbag he is. If you don't like the song...DON'T LISTEN TO IT. What's so friggin' difficult about this concept???

[Lex]

12. And if it were a racist song, would you just advise African Americans

to just "DON'T LISTEN TO IT."

:shrug:

[Obamarama]

15. It's not a racist song....it's not even an anti-gay song.

So, to borrow a line from Phil Donahue...."What's your point, caller?"

[Lex]

22. That is not my question. Read my question carefully again

or do you not understand abstract thinking?

It is a hypothetical question requiring your IQ to be high enough to understand simple abstract thinking.

[Obamarama]

32. Your question has nothing to do with the song. Your point is moot.

It's not a racist song, and it's not an anti-gay song. The question you pose makes no sense in relation to the song.

[Lex]

37. I figured that you would think as much.

No point discussing it with you then.

[nofurylike]

25. very good point, Lex. important too, as so many here seem to think it's

different when they slur us lgbtqci's.

thank you.

[mondo joe]

30. If it were a racist song, no, I wouldn't. But it's not racist or homophobic.

So your question is not relevant.

[nofurylike]

44. it is low, ugly, casts aspersions. IS homophobic. a slur. offensive.

you don't really care about that do you?

is that what DU has become reduced to?

[mondo joe]

46. I disagree. Nothing homophobic about it. It mocks a right wing hypocrite.

That simple.

[Obamarama]

49. Oh please.....

I see none of those things, and I have been an out gay man for 25 years. I donate to the Human Rights Campaign on an annual basis. I helped push for and get domestic partner benefits at a previous workplace. So, the "self-loathing" label isn't going to stick.

If you can't see the song for what it really is, I really feel sorry for you and your ilk.

[nofurylike]

14. i don't have that choice here. i just keep seeing that slur of a

title thrown out there for all the insensitives to get off on.

pitifully immature, and something i expect better than in a place that is - or apparently pretends to be? - inclusive.

[mondo joe]

23. You have the choice to use the IGNORE feature.

[nofurylike]

42. not till after it slaps me in the face, and appears again and again,

despite being through it over and over again here.

i could stop hoping DU is inclusive, that is true. and shut-up or get out. yes?

[mondo joe]

43. Like anything else you might choose to ignore.

This isn't a hot house and you're not a flower.

If you don't like a topic ignore it. How hard is that to understand?

[nofurylike]

51. how hard is "slur" to understand? but you can't get it. eom

[mondo joe]

53. I know what a slure is. I don't hear any in this song.

Offense is in the ear of the beholder.

[LostinVA]

16. Totally offensive to many, many of us on here

But, lots of y'all know this already, since it keeps getting deleted when you post it... again and again.

[Obamarama]

24. And it's NOT offensive to many of us here.....

I can't honestly see what everyone is in a tizz about. I'm gay and I think the song is HILARIOUS. So do several of my gay friends that I have shared the song with.

[mondo joe]

38. Consider that you're explaining that to someone

who probably has 1/3 of DU on ignore. Not the thickest skin here.

[Atman]

21. Meth-ass Man

The first Evangelical hip hop/rapper.

Member of the Pu Tang Clan.

:)

.

[LostinVA]

29. Unbelievable n/t

[mondo joe]

28. QUEERTY - The Gay Blog - likes it

http://www.queerty.com/

While we're on the subject of homo-related songs, Tony-nominated actor and all around goof ball, Paul Hipp's (pictured) penned an ingenious, riotously funny musical sermon to be crooned by disgraced Evangelical reverend, Ted Haggard entitled "Meth and Man Ass".

It may just be one of the best things we've ever heard.

Praise be, Mr. Hipp, praise be...

[LeftCoast]

47. Yeah and there are gay republicans too

So what?

[mondo joe]

52. Are you one of them?

?

[LeftCoast]

55. Now, now...you've been here long enough to know the rules

tsk tsk

[mondo joe]

59. I was unaware of a rule against asking questions.

[Duncan Grant]

56. If the scandal were hetero, I'd find "Beer and Pussy" tacky, but who am I...

to deny people a little adolescent snicker?

Whatever.

[LeftCoast]

58. You republican! LOL

:hi:

[Duncan Grant]

65. Sing along to "Beer and Pussy", it's FUNNY.

Funny, I tell ya. :hi: ;)

[nofurylike]

66. i would hope that people here would not post that, either. wouldn't

you?!

it's about being at a place that INVITES ME TO EXPECT SENSITIVITY.

[mondo joe]

69. Sensitivity? On a political forum?

If this is going to become a haven of PRECIOUSNESS let me know so I can move on.

[Obamarama]

73. I understand there are lots of kitty pictures that get posted in The Lounge....

How much sensitivity do you require on a political discussion board?

[mondo joe]

74. ROFL! That is the best post of this whole damn thread.

[RetroLounge]

61. OMG!

I fell off my chair.

What a great send up of the right-wing evangelical hypocrisy...

RL

[mondo joe]

64. Watch out - you'll be accused of being self-hating any minute now.

[Obamarama]

68. You bad homosexual....why aren't you OFFENDED???

Better watch it...the PC Police will take your gay card away.

[mondo joe]

70. Oh, that I should live to see gays become the new Puritans.

I feel faint!

[Wonk]

67. IBTL. I'm straight, and think that song is quite tacky. nt

[Obamarama]

71. But it doesn't have to IBTL if people would calm down....

But no....a few over-dramatic people have to pull the plug on something a lot of people find funny. When I'm offended by a post - and trust me, many offended me greatly during the Israeli-Hezbollah event - I hit ignore. As offended as I got over some of those discussions I never once alerted the moderators or try to get a discussion thread pulled because it offended me.

[nofurylike]

72. i appreciate your reflecting that aspect of it. but would you think it

only "quite tacky" if it were about wanting another race, versus a man wanting men?

it parallels gay with meth use, casting aspersions, and in a tone to convey an ugliness.

i ask because you seem to be able to see relatively neutrally.

[Bluebear]

75. Oh not this shit again. nt

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

76. I'm going to lock this.

This parody has caused a great deal of division amongst our community.

best,
wakemeupwhenitsover
DU Moderator