Haggard firing, gay question separate

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4614255

The Rev. Ted Haggard lost his pulpit because he admitted to "sexual immorality" outside of his marriage, and the gender of the other person involved had no bearing on the decision-making process, a member of the panel that fired him said Monday.

"Not one time in 3 1/2 days (the panel met) was it ever addressed or discussed that this situation was with a man," said the Rev. Michael Ware, senior pastor of Victory Church in Westminster.

"That never entered the conversation," Ware said. "Let's diffuse that right now. I think people are trying to make this a debate about evangelicals and homosexuality, and this was not a debate in this situation at all."

Ware's comments shed more light on Haggard's stunning fall as one of the nation's most prominent evangelical leaders. Other observers parsing Haggard's two-page apology and confession that was read Sunday at New Life Church in Colorado Springs say they can't tell what "darkness" he is struggling with - marital infidelity or same-sex attraction.

In another development, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson said on his national radio program Monday that he has agreed to serve with two other evangelical leaders on a newly formed board that will further investigate and counsel Haggard.

[hatrack]

1. Oh, so now being gay doesn't matter? That's a switch!

Enough reeking hypocrisy to knock a buzzard off a shitwagon.

[DIKB]

2. That's a little surprising

considering that, to some fundies I know, Homosexuality is the Ultimate sin. They act as though nothing else even compares to it.

oh, well. I stopped trying to figure them out years ago.

[BOSSHOG]

3. Thanks Teammate

For the nice tribute to CPL Bowling.

[NOLADEM]

4. Yeah, RIGHT. I bet....

:eyes:

This guy's story would not have been news if it weren't a homosexual affair

This guy's church would not have thrown him out if it were a straight affair, as long as his wife didn't leave.

What PATHETIC attempts at damage control these stupid people make.


Go ahead and trot out the alcoholic story. That is the Repuke excuse de jour. Say he got addicted to alcohol by imbibing in the sacrement too much. Drunk on God, made a mistake. Yeah, that's it! Go with it sheep.

[Jed Dilligan]

5. Ted should lawyer up

In my opinion this is legal cya--they can't let it out that they fired him because he was gay, even though everyone knows they did.

[William769]

6. To bad many, I do mean many DU members...

It's a crying shame when I have to stick up for an evangelical over someone who is suppose to be a "Liberal".

[shain from kane]

7. Either way, isn't he supposed to be taken to the outskirts of town and stoned

to death?

[rodeodance]

8. good try Rev! but it will not cut the mustard! (oh for your fundies it might)

[rodeodance]

9. He ought to be ashamed of himself for putting out such bull.

[superconnected]

10. Gays are only bad if they're dems, clearly repuke gays are no

problem.

Besides, repuke gays like haggard get up infont of their church and attack gays. Sort of like canibalism where the animal eats it's own. Repubs love that.

[rodeodance]

11. of course he does not want that LINK as the hopocrazy to SO great!

[KansDem]

12. He bought meth and a prostitute. I believe doing so is illegal...

The Christo-fascists can throw around "counseling" and "soul searching" all they want, Rev. Haggard still broke some laws. So the question should be, "Why is this man still free to walk among us?"

[progressivebydesign]

13. Uh yah, Evangelicals WELCOME gays with open arms...

give me a fucking break. They spend all their energy driving them and their families from churches, financing and running de-programming facilities, and denouncing them. Such bullshit.

[JerseygirlCT]

14. That's good to hear, and as it should be. nt

[Catherine Vincent]

15. I smell BS. n/t