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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:02 PM
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Green party in Virginia on track to cost Senate for Dems
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 10:22 PM by bushmeat
Precincts Reporting: 2267 of 2443 (92.80%)
Registered Voters: 4,555,687 Total Voting: 2,126,155 Voter Turnout: 46.67 %
Candidates Party Vote Totals Percentage
G F Allen Republican 1,060,853 49.90%
J H Webb Jr Democratic 1,039,727 48.90%
G G Parker Independent Green 23,493 1.10%
Write Ins 2,082 0.10%
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:02 PM
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1. Here we go again
:(
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:03 PM
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4. I support everything the Greens stand for - except for costing us Dems the election
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:05 PM
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9. You mean they stand for something else? NT.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:12 PM
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20. That's an amazingly idiotic statement. nt
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:02 PM
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2. Fuck that. Blame people who chose not to vote today.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:14 PM
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22. Bingo. How many Virginians were eligible to vote today but didn't bother?
I guarantee that number is way higher than the number that voted Green.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:03 PM
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3. Flame me....but with Global Warming would it hurt us to take up..
the enviromental banner?
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:03 PM
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6. Gore?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:12 PM
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19. may I remind you that Gore didn't lose.
stop blaming the Greens. we need more than 2 parties in this country. hopefully a separate one for the wing-nuts as well.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:15 PM
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25. in the end - Greens give Power to Repukes
This is not the time to be splitting Democratic power when Democratic power is our only hope in getting the US to do anything about global warming.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:06 PM
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11. We are
If they aren't in Kansas, then contact your local party. It was HUGE in Oregon's race and always is. Just because your local Democrats don't talk about the environment doesn't mean Democrats in other parts of the country aren't.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:09 PM
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15. I agree. Instead of working together
the Greens speak with forked tongue. They take money from repukes because they don't have a base. They don't want to care for the Earth or they would form a coalition with the Democratic party and broker power sharing like the real Greens of Europe.. Hippycrats as someone called them. Or in the words of Socrates, "Idiots"
:grr:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:03 PM
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5. Gosh, where did they get their funding?
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:04 PM
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7. personally
i blame the write-ins.

hehe
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:05 PM
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8. It's some weird conservative green thing
I already looked it up and I don't think that's the typical Green Party. I don't know who they would have voted for otherwise, tough to say. Not looking like it's another right wing sabatoge.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:06 PM
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10. No this isn't true

Green Party is legal to vote and people can vote for whom the wish. Non-voters should draw your ire not someone who actually exercised their right to vote, who just happened to vote for someone you do not approve. This state is a full-front racist neo-confederate state...the fact Webb is even in the game is a major miracle.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:07 PM
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12. thanks!, you put the smile back on my face!
:)
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:08 PM
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14. I guess we should support Allen voters too, right?
After all, it's legal to vote for Republicans. :eyes:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:10 PM
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17. Hear, hear! "Democrats" complaining about "democracy"?
Man ... it sure don't take a rocket scientist to figure out that might turn off a liberal!!

:puke: :puke:
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:07 PM
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13. Hey! What about the Write Ins?
I hear they were being funded by the Republicans!

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:09 PM
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16. Blame non-voting Dems. n/t
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:16 PM
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28. they are the same thing - greens are non voting Dems
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FyurFly Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:11 PM
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18. A vote for green = repub vote n/t
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:13 PM
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21. In what alternate reality
would they have voted for Dems? That's what I don't understand when people say things like this. This is the worst kind of scapegoating - blaming the smallest, least powerful group.

Blame the half of the population who doesn't even vote - it's a much larger group of people.

Blaming the Greens will never solve the problem.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:14 PM
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24. You think they would have preferred Allen?
Allen's positions are further from the Green party's platform than Webb's. Anyone who voted for Greens in Virginia shot off their nose to spite their face.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:16 PM
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30. No, they preferred the Green candidate
so that's who they voted for.

There are a small percentage of people who are Greens who will never vote for Dems. It is a fact. Gotta face the facts and move on - there are MILLIONS of people who don't vote. Blame them. Target them.

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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:21 PM
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38. Of course they preferred the green
candidate. So why did they vote for a sure loser when they knew they could vote for a Democrat and have a chance to have some of their issues addressed instead of no chance. Seems like a lack of common sense and brains to me.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:17 PM
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31. It's when they nakedly accept support from the Republican party
that I have a problem with them. If they were a genuine progressive independent alternative my feelings would be different. It looks like they've sold their souls to the highest bidder though.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:18 PM
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35. Strawman
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 10:19 PM by meganmonkey
Did this particular candidate take Repub money? Maybe, maybe not, I don't know.

Do many Democratic candidates take money from Repub donors, right-leaning PACS and lobbyists and companies? Ummm...Hell, yeah they do.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:14 PM
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23. Green party has become just an arm of the GOP.
If I feel the need to vote third party again, I guess it will have to be Libertarian, or maybe Prohibition.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:15 PM
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26. Arg, *HE IS NOT GREEN*! He's a freaking independant that hijacked the party name!
Read it: INDEPENDANT GREEN!
Not green party. It's like calling Joe L. A democrat at this point.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:17 PM
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32. True
But how many Greens didn't know that and voted for him thinking he was the Green, which is exactly what Republicans have been doing this year. I don't know at all, just saying.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:20 PM
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36. Perhaps some, but that is not our parties fault.
We stayed out of that race. We played nice this year (except for the idiot in Penn.)
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:15 PM
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27. The so called Green candidate here is not liberal...but a rightie...
And she actually endorsed Webb yesterday...

God knows who is voting for her!
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:16 PM
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29. Green =
Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:18 PM
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34. *HE IS NOT A GREEN*
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 10:18 PM by mainegreen
He's an independent. He has no green party affiliation AT ALL! The green are actually PISSED at him for calling himself "independent green".

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:18 PM
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33. OR, it's fucking Diebold sabotage. They knew what they had to rig.
They don't have to rig every damn race, just two or three. Who knows why we lost?
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:21 PM
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37. And for the 1,186,242nd time... the Green party elects Conservatives...
It's a sick outcome of ignorance on a national level but it's happened so many times now it doesn't bother me anymore. It just makes me cynical.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:23 PM
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41. For the last time *HE IS NOT A F***ING GREEN*
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:22 PM
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39. no-- dems on track to lose liberal votes they don't care to court....
This is what happens when dems disdain liberal issues. If liberal votes aren't worth earning, don't complain when liberals vote green.
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:22 PM
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40. What about
the VA veterans supporting Macacca(didn't serve) over Webb(did serve)? I can't figure these vets out!
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:23 PM
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42. Locking
Let's not fight this yet. The race hasn't been called.
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