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Wed Nov-08-06 06:28 AM
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Greg Palast Has Some Serious Egg On His Face. |
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His article yesterday was a full on post-mortem of how the repukes stole the election. I'd love to hear from him and all the it's hopeless-they're-gonna-steal-it crowd.
Just want to add that part of our success this year was due to that law of nature- pendulums swing. (That doesn't mean I'm not crediting all the hard work and excellent strategizing.)
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:30 AM
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1. I didn't say it was hopeless.. |
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Nor do I say it's hopeless now.
However I do advise vigilance, since the Republicans are quite well known for being cheaters of the worst kind. I think cautious optimism is the best approach until the dust has settled.
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:32 AM
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3. Just because we won does not mean they did not cheat! |
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Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 06:35 AM by wake.up.america
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:32 AM
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4. It took 12 years to get rid of Hitler |
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and it took a dozen years to unseat the Republicans.
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Wed Nov-08-06 07:25 AM
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Is this really you? Love your books! Keep them coming.
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Wed Nov-08-06 07:38 AM
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18. this is an interesting response n/t |
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:31 AM
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his article but he did say if we got out the vote we could do it...or maybe he had Roves math figures...lol
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:34 AM
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6. That'll be the best retraction he's ever written |
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He should be beaming in his next article. "I have to retract my previous doom and gloom. I have egg on my face and it tastes like a high-class omlette. I have to eat crow and it tastes like cornish game hens. I'm eating my own words and they taste like prime rib. Yum yum!" And Limbaugh says "Gee, I wish I was eating. Pass the pills."
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:34 AM
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7. or perhaps Rove called off his thugs |
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and they decided to see what happens when limited stealing occurs. They stole Kerry's win in 2004 Ohio, but they know too many of us are watching closely now. Kudos to Bev Harris and other clean election activists.
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:32 AM
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5. I believe Palast was both jaded and correct to assume the worst. |
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His scathing opinions of the Republicans were not always proven true, but they had a point. I think there was a lot of election chicanery in this cycle. I think it's worth our time to investigate possibilities.
It's a testament to the size of this Democratic wave that success is as resounding as it has been.
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:35 AM
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8. Maybe some good will come of this. |
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Given that the Republicans are now screaming about fraud and electronic voting machines, maybe there will be some common ground on this issue now. And maybe, given the outcome of this election, the nuttier elements of the election reform movement will find a different target for their paranoia.
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:38 AM
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9. Do you really think the Democratic victory wasn't much bigger. |
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:38 AM
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10. Democrats Recaptured The Middle... |
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Many moderates who voted Repugnican in past elections saw how far to the right the GOOP had swung (yes, it was the pendulum) and saw Democrats who represented sanity and reason. That was the big story of yesterday's election in many districts.
Democrats won by showing up in large enough numbers that made the stealing and voter supression have minimal affects. I blame robo-calls as hurting in some districts (Tammy Duckworth), but all-in-all a more vigelent electorate and party yesterday made any efforts at fraud difficult. If Rove coulda stolen one, Virginia was right there...and it looks like Webb will do what Gore should have in '00...declare victory and let opposition prove he didn't. Let's see if Felix or the RNC wants to toss the coin for a recount.
From the right wing radio shows and web sites I've scanned this morning, the denial isn't a river, it's an ocean at high tide. These people have no clue why they lost and soon will start the blame game. In the meantime, we need to keep a close eye on the lame duck session and prevent a last minute pillage before Nancy Pelosi is handed the gavel.
Cheers...
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:57 AM
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11. Did you read the whole article? |
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He said the one way we could win was by swarming the polls with voters. We did that.
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Wed Nov-08-06 07:15 AM
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They did all of the ratfucking they could...
They purged the voting lists.
They tried the usual voter suppression tricks (harassing phone calls and telling people the voting location changed and all that crap)
AND they hacked the vote... probably by 5 percent.
And it wasn't enough.
You can't hold back a tsunami with an army of pitchforks.
But they MIGHT next time.
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Wed Nov-08-06 07:35 AM
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17. we also had lawyers and phone numbers ready. People were |
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watching unlike the other years.
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:58 AM
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READ WHAT HE SAID AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE
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Wed Nov-08-06 07:17 AM
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14. I don't think so....I took his article to be a "what if" story stimulus |
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GET OUT THE VOTE!
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Wed Nov-08-06 07:25 AM
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16. Just because we won doesn't mean they did not try to steal it. |
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Ok, double negative but it say what I mean. I think the repukes focused on stealing TN, VA and one other state that I'm not sure of. They managed to steal TN but in the end it didn't matter. They were Unsuccessful in VA because the Democratic party and voter activist groups were on the alert and started screaming the minute something looked fishy. This embolden the voters to keep voting and to keep an eye out for dirty tricks (robo-calls, threats about voters being jailed).
The repukes also made the mistake of legitimizing election fraud theories. When it dawned on the repukes that if they could steal the elections so could Democratic politicians, the repukes started mentioning, rather passively, that there could be voter fraud. This emboldened the corporate media and they started taking a closer look at voter intimidation and vote rigging. The truth has a way of wiggling out of the subversive clamps holding it down.
We don't have all the media jumping on anyone who mentions election fraud as "tin-foil" conspirator theorists anymore. People are taking vote rigging seriously. That is the difference now and two, and six, years ago. But in my honest opinion they stole TN.
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Wed Nov-08-06 07:42 AM
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19. Who's saying they didn't cheat? |
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They can only swing elections a certain number of points one way or the other without raising suspicion. The margins were just too great to overcome this time.
Fortunately, we will be in charge of more elections in states in 2008, so we can keep the cheaters away (for the most part)...
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