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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:41 AM
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Will Holy Joe pull a Jeffords?
Will Lieberman caucus with the Republicans and force a 50/50 power share in the Senate?

:shrug:
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:42 AM
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1. I think so (eom)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:42 AM
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2. The tide has turned to the left. What you should be asking is, what
moderate Republican is pissed off at the Republicans enough to change his party affiliation to Democratic.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:43 AM
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5. That's what I would like to see happen
they shouldn't give Joe any power.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:42 AM
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3. they are going to try to make him an offer
Probably are doing the preliminaries right now.

I don't think he will, but you never know.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:42 AM
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4. Either that or Shrub could give him a job
Leaving the appointment of his seat in the hands of a Republican governor :(
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:43 AM
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6. And lose his committees and power?
LIEberman is nothing without his power.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:44 AM
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8. You think the Republicans wouldn't offer him what he has and more?
:shrug:
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:46 AM
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11. They offered him Iraq, but I don't think he will give up his committee seats for them.
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 09:46 AM by Selatius
Joe is out for Joe and nobody else, and Joe wants power.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:50 AM
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17. With a 50/50 split? How?
They'd offer him half of what? :shrug:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:53 AM
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18. Good point..Chairman of what he has vs. shared chair of more important...
committees...
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:57 AM
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19. Of course, that doesn't mean he'll always vote with us.
Not that we won't speak to him about that. A lot. :evilgrin:
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:02 AM
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23. He'll vote against us as many times as he'll vote with us
But he's promised to caucus with the Dems. It won't be long before he tries to regain his Democratic affiliation.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:44 AM
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7. He said he'd caucus with the Dems.
I think he's going to have to tread more carefully re: national security, given the results of this election.
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:45 AM
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9. A opportunist scumbag like Lieberman will go with the prevailing winds
which right now are gusting dem :bounce:
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:46 AM
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10. It won't happen
You know, something that gets lost in his support for the war is his very liberal stance on so many social issues. He's a hawk when it comes to foreign policies, but not enough of one to make him abandon his "D" roots on the other issues. No, he's got a committee chairmanship waiting for him in a dem senate.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:46 AM
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12. enough dems kissed his ass he may still be able to play dem
except whe it comes to the war and we just understand this is the way it is and go after his ass next time
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:46 AM
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13. Nah..
I dislike Liebermann immensely, but I don't see him leaving the party. He won because he ran as a moderate Dem with seniority. If he bolts this time, he will lose next time because he won't get the 20 plus percent of Dems to vote for him.

There is more for him if he stays Dem and squeezes them for some choice assignments. He is the new "Decider" in DC, if you will.
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:48 AM
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14. He won because of Republicans not running anyone
and the union support. I really fear Bush making Lieberman SOD and Rell putting someone else in.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:02 AM
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22. 20 percent from the Dems is not a ringing endorsement...
regardless of the union support. If he was not positioning himself as a centrist/moderate, R's would have stayed home or voted for whatshisname.

Appointing Liebermann to SOD is an act of bipartisanship that I just cannot see Bush making.
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:04 AM
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24. Rell would have to live with the repercussions
of appointing a Republican if Bush appointed Lieberman to some cabinet position.

I just don't see it happening.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:14 AM
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27. Excellent point...
Lieberman would ruin his career by putting his face on the ass-end of an unwinnable war, and Rell would be destroyed next election because the voters sure as hell didn't vote for a Republican for Senate from CT.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:49 AM
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15. No. He is for choice, stem cell research, and more progressive
than non-progressive issues

It would serve the people in Connecticut right if he did switch parties, but not Americans

He will keep his word and caucus with the Democrats

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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:00 AM
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21. edit. too tired to read, need some sleep
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 10:03 AM by GreenJ
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:50 AM
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16. Isn't he an IND?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:00 AM
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20. Here's the numbers:
Joe caucuses with no one:
D 50
R 49
I 1

Joe caucuses with Dems:
D 51
R 49

Joe caucuses with Repubs:
D 50
R 50

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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:05 AM
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25. If Lieberman
caucuses with the pubs -- we lose the Senate.

a 50/50 split goes to the pubs because its effectively 50dem / 51 pub due to Cheney breaking the tie.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:08 AM
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26. Cheney only votes on bills if there's a tie. IIRC, we had the 50/50 thing...
in 2000 before Jeffords changed and it was a shared chairmanship arrangement.
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