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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:00 AM
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How come backwoods, inbred-filled, deep-red, gun crazy Arizona,
is the ONLY state to reject the same-sex marriage ban? Yeah, I'm talking to you Colorado - Idaho - South Carolina - South Dakota - Tennessee - Virginia! :wtf:

Maybe we're not so "backwoods" after all.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:01 AM
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1. Because it's a libertarian thing to do?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:07 AM
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2. Sorry, but we are as backward as you think. We already have a ban on Gay Marriage,
the proposed amendment sought to use the pervasive bigotry against gays to take domestic partnership benefits away from, mostly, state employees. ;(

But it did go down, and I guess that's what really counts. :hi::kick::hi:
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:10 AM
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3. Yeah, that's how the republicans are spinning it this morning.
So it was a victory for them I guess... :eyes:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:39 AM
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9. It was a progressive victory, but unfortunately gay zonies are still
shut out.
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NewInNewJ. Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:12 AM
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4. No your not backwoods, Tennessee is and I live there.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:15 AM
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5. I've been explaining this because it was DIFFERENT than the other anti-gay props
This proposition called for not just banning gay marriage but ALSO stripping away benefits for domestic partners.

This is what cost the proposition its victory-even the bigoted couldn't see good reason to strip away healthcare from other human beings based on just sexual orientation.

PS Pima County (Tucson) is quite blue and we just gave left of center Gabby a trouncing victory over backwoods inbred Randy Graf

Blood Red Maricopa County turned out in favor of a lesbian for governor, voted AGAINST gay marriage ban, AND kicked Hayworth out.


My friends I just may stay in Arizona after all...
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:20 AM
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7. Mijo - You are saying Hayworth lost. HOORAY!!!
Trying to get on AZ CEntral to get the results.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:24 AM
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8. Get em here pal
http://election.cbsnews.com/campaign2006/state.shtml?state=AZ
Election Results - CBSNews.com

I got yer freakin results right here!

:toast:
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:40 AM
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10. That's what the Virginia amendment did.
The VA amendment passed with something like 60%.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:17 AM
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6. I spent a week
in Arizona in October on vacation.

Beautiful state! Loved it and the people were very friendly.

It is obvious that Arizona is NOT a redneck backwoods cracker state. :hi:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:47 AM
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11. Don't fall for it, it is just a facade. We have a huge tourist industry that
is #2 behind agriculture in the state, and we learned how to hide the truth from the tourists in the MLK debacle in the 80's under Mecham (yes we elected a used car sales weasel for governor, fortunately he couldn't restrain himself and ended up in jail).

Arizona banned gay marriage in '04(?), this proposal was about taking partner benefits away from un-married state employees and had nothing to do with gay/straight. But, the main thing is that it was voted down.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:51 AM
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13. Well, you
still have a beautiful state. I did not know just how breathtaking until I drove through.

This one Georgian LOVES Arizona!!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:26 PM
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14. And moving away from Atlanta was one of the very few regrets I have
in my life. I grew up here in the west, so I was just awestruck by the incredible beauty and impenetrable lushness of Georgia and Atlanta was/is(?) the easiest large city in the country to live in, IMO.

Please don't take my warning as a denial of the great natural beauty of the state, it is unique in both its beauty and the proximity of so many natural wonders, and the old timers are much more libertarian (in the traditional sense, not the uber-fascists that control the party) than conservative, IOW, they take 'live and let live', and 'you mind your business, I'll mind mine' very seriously. No, it's the fascist transplants that screw things up here. Look at how the propositions went here, every anti-Mexican measure passed convincingly.

So please come back this winter, get a good sunburn for the holidays and make your friends jealous, just remember when you visit here, you are seeing what we want you to see, not reality.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:34 PM
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15. Thank you!
I do plan on coming back.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:48 AM
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12. AZ passed medical marijuana not too long ago
It's more of a libertarian, mind your own business kind of place.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:53 PM
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16. I expected nothing less
You're right next to California, after all. ;-)
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