If you think that was a clean election....

[garybeck]

just spend a few minutes in the EIRS database. here are just a few samples, these happen to be from Maryland, but there are LOTS more

"two problems at polling place: (1) polling place has 15 machines, but only 4 are working; (2) people had to vote multiple times ("5 times") because "the cards weren't working". Caller mentioned that this is a predominantly African-American neighborhood.

"For one voter, his confirmation page did not reflect his actual choices. He noticed this and changed it, but there may be other machines that this is happening on.

"1. Poll opened late 2. She was first in line - gave voter registration call - was asked whether she is democrat or republican - 3. Poll worker takes card and puts in scanner around neck and pushes in numbers - puts in machine kicks it out - doesn't work - puts back in scanner - card deleted next people - not asked party, didn't put card in scanner - took 40 minutes to vote 4. They required cell phone to be off - will mess up machines -

"She was 21st in line at the 7 a.m. opening. Everyone was given their electronic cards. When tried to vote, all machines went down but card was already processed. Required people to fill out paper (provisional) ballots. Then 3 machines became available. She was told to go vote on the machine but they had already taken back the cards. She was sent back and forth between the "machine" judges and the "cards" judges. Finally she just voted by provisional ballot

"Parkside Clubhouse North at 10522 Montrose Ave, Machine TS7 is not working properly. The voter brought the problem to the attention of election judge Ben Houghton, who called technical support but acted slowly and would not guarentee that the machine would be taken out of service. First Screen - First time she pushed the square to vote for Frost, she checked the screen and saw his opponent's name. She called the judge over and cleared it out, and a seond time, it did the same thing in his presence. When she tried a third time, she thinks it worked, but she couldn't verify it because the bottom part of the screen was cut off. Concerned enough that she went to Judge Van Houghton and she made an official complaint of voter fraud. She has a signed document from the election officials, signed and witnessed, saying that he saw it happen. She went back to see whether the machine had been taken away. After speaking to MoveOn.org's hotline Felt intimidated when she had the MoveO

"Machine twice showed he had picked the candidate above the one he picked. Democratic changed to republican. Had to clear votes, try again. After second try was able to vote correct.

"Machine #2 at this precinct records wrong candidate at summary page. Had to correct each candidate 3-4 times for it register correctly on summary screen. Concerned that others may not be checking summary screen and may inadvertently vote for wrong candidate.

" Voter tried to vote a democratic candidate and it incorrectly registered as Republican for three times in a row. She succeeded the fourth time. Also, the caller said that after providing her identification, the judge claimed not to have the caller's name in her pollbook. The caller produced her specimen ballot and the judge found her name.

"Machine flipped voter preferences for State initiatives 1 and 2. Voter noticed the error on the paper printout (which he could "barely make out") and notified a poll worker. She stated that this problem had occured "4 or 5 times" on two or more machines. He was on machine #7. He was given a provisional paper ballot on which to vote. He said that someone else used the machine right afterward. Poll workers are not pulling machines with known errors.

"Caller said that the poll worker said that they need a chip to download the information and none of the machines have the chip.

"machines broken, poll worker refused to give provisional ballots b/c "takes too long to count" and turned away 35 people, said to come back later.

Huge stack of more incidents like these:
http://eirs.cs.net:8080/EIRS_WEB/Reporting/displayUSReport.do

[IndyOp]

1. Meltdowns in Ohio, vote flipping in Texas, Virginia, Florida...

and a WHOLE LOT more...

NOW we pass legislation requiring voter-verified paper ballots and automatic random audits.

[liberaldemocrat7]

9. Vote by mail with paper ballots counted by civil servants.

That's what we need congress to pass and make voting universal.

Federal civil servants register voters, and maintain these registrations,

Voters vote by mail with paper ballots counted by these civil servants.

No machines, no polling places, no private companies, no political parties counting votes nor registering voters. Political parties can observe the counting and the maintenance of registrations.

Vote by mail blocks political parties from seeing a person's skin color. This makes it a more secret ballot. Besides the civil servants count the votes.

This will work.

[Justyce]

2. I think we won much bigger than it shows because

it was corrupt, but just not corrupt enough to offset our turnout... JMO.

[vanboggie]

3. I agree

They had to keep the winning margin tight, and the turnout overcame the cheating.

K&R :kick:

[mirandapriestly]

7. that's what I think.eom

[tsuki]

12. I agree, and so I think do most of the populace.

[eridani]

4. Winning is NO excuse whatsoever for caving on this issue

Turnout was enough to overcome a lot of the hankypanky this time, but it won't always be. And it damned well wasn't in 2004.

[lonestarnot]

6. Totally freak'n agree! Get rid of those fucking machines and fast!

I watched as the polling supervisor removed the top to a scanner at around 5 pm and thought ugh oh. Damn machines should just not be used period!

[LaPera]

5. There was even so many more problems & stolen votes than you described

[marions ghost]

8. kick

[bluedogyellowdog]

10. Even though we won big time

I'm convinced for the first time the Repugs have built vote fraud into the system and are using it wherever possible. There were just too many places running too strongly Dem this time for them to get away with it in the big races.

Here are a few things I noticed.
Virginia: Mysterious 20,000 votes for George Allen suddenly appearing out of nowhere late in the count. I think they miscalculated how much Webb support was going to come in from northern Virginia, since their ballot box stuffing obviously failed. But they tried to steal it. Their math was a little off. Also with the robo-calling just before the election directing people to the wrong polling place or telling them they would be prosecuted if they tried to vote.

New York and Ohio: Something like a dozen or more House races with Repug incumbents, that we would up losing by a 49-51% margin.

Florida: In the Gonzales (D) vs Diaz-Balart (R) race, returns showed Gonzales winning 55%-45%, then, with NO change in the number of precincts reporting, flipped to 62-38% in favor of Diaz-Balart. If the 55-45% had been early returns that changed once more precincts started reporting, it would have made sense, but this flip happened very late in the count - with over 90% of returns already in.

I'm just sayin'. Republicans using criminal vote suppression tactics and ballot box stuffing have a long tradition, so why would it be any different with electronic voting booths? Power-hungry criminals are power-hungry criminals.

[formercia]

11. It was the fed up Republican and Independent vote

that made the difference. The fraud was there just as before but it was overwhelmed by sheer numbers of crossover and Indie voters.