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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:29 PM
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Gates = done deal of a punt on Iraq (to Baker)
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 02:45 PM by troublemaker
Gates is longtime Baker buddy and is on the Baker/Hamilton commission. Bush has already decided to accede to the more hawkish of the two main Baker/Hamilton scenarios and is preparing the playing field to make a graceful pivot. ("We've never been about Democracy in Iraq. This has never been nation building.")

Since Gates is on the Baker/Hamilton commission and probably agrees with Baker 100% his appt as SecDef is a complete acceptance of their (Gate's and Baker's) already existing Iraq policy.

So Gates isn't just an appointment, it is a specific Iraq policy shift in itself. We, the people, won't know the details of the new WH policy for a week but it's already baked in the cake.

On Edit: It occurs to me that Bush has to do this during the lame duck period so Dems don't get any of the credit.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:35 PM
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1. What do you think the new policy will be? Doubling the US troop
strength to 300,000 and installing a Bathist dictatorship? Sounds like what the "old men" of the party would do...
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:39 PM
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2. Abandon "democracy" as a goal and pull out of Bagdhad, remove
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 02:42 PM by troublemaker
some troops, broker oil revenue deal, special forces vs. foreign fighters in Anbar is supposed to be the Baker plan. (All I know is what I read in the papers.)

The less-hawkish of the two scenarios hasn't been discussed nearly as much, so I don't know what that enatils. (Is that going to be the Hamilton plan vs. the Baker plan?)

Either way, I expect this hot potato to be thrown in Baker's lap. He's the cleaner. (And perhaps the fall guy)

In one book Baker was quoted to the effect that: "The Bushes treat me like the goddamned butler."
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:41 PM
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3. I agree. It 's a sign of an upcoming policy shift
that they will spin as being the policy all along.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:05 AM
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4. I'm afraid that they are going to escalate and increase the number
of troops - it just sounds like where they would go. Several prominent Democrats have suggested troop level increases, so the murderers would have at least some "cover"...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:02 AM
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5. Kissinger said yesterday "they" wouldn't increase troops
"They" being Bush, since Henry is advising Bush these days.

But "they" always lie, so....
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