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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:44 PM
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Rumsfeld to be charged with War Crimes next week in a European Court...
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 02:44 PM by Bullwinkle925
anyone else heard that????

edited for typo
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TheLeftyMom Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:44 PM
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1. from your mouth to god's ears
Or keyboard...and all that...
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:45 PM
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2. Where did YOU hear that? Not that I don't think it's not out of the
question considering he IS guilty of war crimes. But he ain't the only one.
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:45 PM
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3. Haa Haa Haaw -
geez, I wish. :(
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:45 PM
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4. who where what when more please
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:46 PM
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7. just heard a blurb - QuakeRadio in SF - Thom Hartman's show...
I missed the rest of it - dammit
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:45 PM
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5. They can charge whoever, whenever.
That doesn't mean anything will happen.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:46 PM
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I read here on DU that that was a possibility. What does that mean? Does he have to
answer the charges? Will he be on the run the rest of his life, unable to leave the states for fear of being arrested?:bounce:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:48 PM
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10. bush is setting up a plantation
in Paraguay where he and his criminal cabal can live out their years. Paraguay does not have an extradition treaty with the U. S. It was also a country of choice for the Nazis after WWII.
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Vorta Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:51 PM
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16. A real Southerner could go to America Brazil (seat of the Confederacy in Exile)
I'll bet the Brazillians of Confederate ancestry don't want Bush there.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:12 PM
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26. OMG. I was wondering what was up with that Paraguay deal.
I heard about that the other day and didn't know what was up with it. Forgot to ask.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:14 PM
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28. Anything these criminals would do
should not be a surprise to decent American Citizens. And who knows better about the criminal acts they have been involved with then them? bush and his gang are sweating the American Truth knowing the truth with the dems now in charge. How more pathetic can you get?
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Vorta Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:49 PM
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13. Means about as much as Inverness Florida passing a law against Satan.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:09 PM
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25. Probably so -
but it sure sounded good coming out of the radio.



:evilgrin:
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:46 PM
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6. Thanks for the reminder
I had forgotten that.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:46 PM
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8. Got a link?
I'd love for this to be true.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:49 PM
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14. try ...
www.thomhartmann.com
I was listening to his show and caught something about it -

Please, God - let it be true!!!
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:47 PM
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9. Yes, in Germany (n/t)
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:48 PM
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11. I guess no April in Paris for the newly retired Rumsfeld
But Paraguay is nice all year round!
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:49 PM
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12. Why single out Rummy and not...
...the Chimp in Chief and Darth Cheney?
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:50 PM
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15. HERE'S THE LINK.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:03 PM
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20. awesome
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:51 PM
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17. I expect that he'll be in Paraguay before the week is over.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:16 PM
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29. He and Kenny Boy will be great pals!
The Rumbo in the Jungle!
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:00 PM
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18. He was already charged once and they dropped the charges.
But then when the thugs passed that military commissions shit they realized that America would not be punishing her own and decided to pursue further action.

It won't likely accomplish much, but it helps to get the international court established so that one day....

Still Rummie, I'd stay out of Germany was I you.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:06 PM
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22. Probably the last time I will post this.
Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm

Recently it has been found out that even more detainees were "ghost detainees". The fact that Rumsfeld has not been charged speaks volumes. If Congress wishes to garner any respect they should move forward with Impeachment Declaration of Rumsfeld.



Further Evidence Rumsfeld Implicated in War Crimes
Please read this important post by Marty Lederman, Army Confirms: Rumsfeld Authorized Criminal Conduct.

Here's a key section, but there's more:
The Army's charges against Jordan reflect the view, undoubtedly correct, that the use of forced nudity or intimidation with dogs against detainees subject to military control constitutes cruelty and maltreatment that Article 93 makes criminal. It doesn't matter whether they are or are not "torture," as such; nor does it matter whether the armed forces should be permitted to use such interrogation techniques: As things currently stand, they are unlawful, as even the Army now acknowledges.

But then how can we account for the actions of the Secretary of Defense and his close aides?

On November 27, 2002, Pentagon General Counsel William Haynes, following discussions with Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, General Myers, and Doug Feith, informed the Secretary of Defense that forced nudity and the use of the fear of dogs to induce stress were lawful techniques, and he recommended that they be approved for use at Guantanamo.
(The lists of techniques to which Haynes was referring can be found in this memorandum.) On December 2, 2002, Secretary Rumsfeld approved those techniques for use at Guantanamo -- and subsequently those techniques were used on detainee Mohammed al-Qahtani.

In other words, the Secretary of Defense authorized criminal conduct.

...

Today's Army charge under UCMJ Article 93 against Lt. Col. Jordan -- for conduct that the SecDef actually authorized as to some detainees -- demonstrates that Rumsfeld approved of, and encouraged, violations of the criminal law.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2006/04/further_evidence_rumsfeld_implicated_in_war_crimes.html
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:08 PM
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24. Please!!! Post this again, and again, and again. Do NOT quit posting this!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:49 PM
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30. thank you
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proudlibal Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:01 PM
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19. Good
Oh that would be wonderful.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:05 PM
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21. No more European vacations for Rummy. nt
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 03:05 PM by MGD
spelling
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:06 PM
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23. Is this true or wishful thinking??
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:12 PM
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27. READ THE ARTICLES. There are two posted in this thread. (not yelling)
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