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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:33 PM
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Maybe I'm cynical or paranoid, but is the Rumsfeld resignation a way to deflect
attention from the Senate races and Democratic victory in Congress? I'm flipping between CNN and MSNBC and it's all Rummy all the time, and nary a whimper about Tester in MT and Webb in VA. Now Bush is speaking YET AGAIN. The media is assembled at the White House, rather than covering the Democratic victory.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:35 PM
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1. You are neither cynical nor paranoid
The timing is too convenient and the media, as always, is licking the boots of the Administration.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:36 PM
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3. Correct.
It's a bit too obvious, isn't it?
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:35 PM
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2. Right, but better now than 3 weeks ago...
When it would have done him some good!

:nopity:

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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:37 PM
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You are right. This is a way to take the eyes off of the MT & VA Senate
races. The poll data shows that there should have been 4% leads for the Dems in both states, but now they are 1% or less now.

Some serious election fraud is going on right now.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:37 PM
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4. Also to possibly secure Repug Senate by appointing
Lieberman and having a Repug governor appoint the ensuing vacancy.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:41 PM
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12. Oops - never mind
have been gone all day and just now heard of Rumsfield --- but not that he named Gates to replace.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:38 PM
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5. The conspiracy breaks apart but who is Gates?
This new man in charge or the world's largest military i've don't know of at all?

I would like to learn enough to know whether or not he's a psychopath.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:39 PM
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6. That's what they want you to focus on - Gates, and not MT & VA.
So, don't fall for it.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:44 PM
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15. both
A command change when force is in the field is foreground, and MT and VA are parallel concerns watched
with detailed scrutiny.

The foreground command change could put the world in nuclear war within a year, we need to know
no matter who is in the senate. Gates profile will not change the result of this election,
this is a real tide, trust it.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:40 PM
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10. Two words
Iran Contra.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:39 PM
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7. right but let them
this is the best they got right now.
pathetic.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:40 PM
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8. yes, exactly--those hogs can't give up ONE SECOND of airtime
to the "enemy"
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:40 PM
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9. Naw, I don't think so. I think Shrub knew he had to get rid of Rummy,
even before the election, and he arranged to do it right after the election to help save his own ass! As for the media, Rummy really IS the most recent big story of thehour. It will run for the rest of the day maybe, and then something else will surface to the top!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:40 PM
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11. I think * is dumb enough to think that this will get the Dems
off his back so he can go back to doing whatever it is he wants to do in Iraq or anywhere else. He is of course assuming that the Amurkin people are as stupid as he is, something that's always worked for him before. The Dems need a response like "getting rid of Rumsfeld is an OK first step but you still have to get rid of the Rumsfeld/Cheney policies that caused all the problems in the first place."
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:42 PM
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13. the american people know what they did yesterday. they dont
need to be told by the news and the rummy thing reinforces their vote. they wanted rummy out. it is like geeez should hae voted dem sooner, wink
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:43 PM
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14. Maybe it has to do with the landslide democratic victory,
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 03:44 PM by mmonk
the violations of the constitution and War Crimes Act, the soon to be filing in a German court by CCR of war crimes charges against Rumsfeld and other administration officials, the request by generals that Rumsfeld step down, or maybe, but not probable, he just wanted Gates instead.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:46 PM
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16. I can't see how this possibly helps the Chimp
After being defiante on Rumsfeld for so long, his sudden backing down makes him look extremely weak.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:50 PM
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18. Let's make it a "Honecker moment." ie "Ideological Disarticulation"
I'm into somewhat obtuse historical analogies. But this is appropriate. Once East Germany's leader caved on certain political/administrative questions, the whole ideological edifice maintaining the state began to collapse. We can help ensure the same thing happens to the Republicans, using the Rumsfeld scapegoating as the "spark." Once the ideological cohesion is severed, the whole rationale for all the GOP workers and volunteers vanishes. Let's keep the spotlight on the right.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:48 PM
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17. Turns out the former CIA dude is a wingnut?
figures. Bush would never appoint anyone QUALIFIED to take Rummy's place.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:51 PM
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19. At bottom, Poppy just ousted Cheney from being puppeteer of Shrub
Poppy put Jim Baker in a commission to fix Shrub's Iraq mess and Poppy hired the new SecDef, and Cheney is Now Out Of The Loop!!

Watch it unfold.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:55 PM
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20. Exactly.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:59 PM
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21. I think you are onto something there.
:popcorn:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 04:14 PM
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23. Poppy doesn't want the family legacy to be besmirched
any more than it already has been, at least among country club republicans.

He wrote in his own book why he didn't push Gulf War One to Baghdad, in a paragraph that describes exactly the endless mess we are in.

The republican party is in disarray, there is a distinct possibility of impeachment and related investigations and Barbara probably told Poppy to go get Jim Baker and his old team to put humpty dumpty back together again...as best they can.

This is the ULTIMATE smackdown for Shrub, who continues to think he hit a home run in life, when in fact he was born on third and stole home.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 04:46 PM
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24. The usual script, in other words
The Smirk gets a job because of who his daddy is, he screws it up, and daddy calls his friends in and they come to find a way to pull The Smirk out of his mess.

Could this have been predicted 6 years ago?

How could it *not* have been predicted? He's never done anything BUT this all his life.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 06:19 PM
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26. So true
If only we had a media. His life is an open book of one failure after another
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 04:12 PM
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22. I don't care what it was
I went to bed this morning, telling Blogslut Jr. :

"I know I claim to be peaceful but I do want blood out of this win. I want the head of Donald Rumsfeld."

I advise everyone to read "State of Denial" by Bob Woodward. Read it and you will see exactly how much damage Rumsfeld did, not just with this war but to the military as a whole.

Don't get me wrong. Bush has been letting that bastard run roughshod for all this time. I want all of them held accountable for what they've done to America and everything else. I also realize that Bob Gates is yet another Iran/Contra ghost come to life. Still, Rumsfeld is out. Gone. Finito.

Today is a good day. :)
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 04:47 PM
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25. I believe it's also know as "throwing under the bus"
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