tritsofme
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:45 PM
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Seeing as Joe Lieberman Holds the Senate Balance of Power... |
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Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 04:46 PM by tritsofme
Aren't you all glad that our Democratic leadership didn't listen to you when you wanted them to go for blood and publically strip him of his committee assignments and seniority?
I know I am.
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:49 PM
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1. Lieberman is no Democrat |
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They should strip him now and spank him. When you lose the Dem primary an honerable Dem would pledge thier support to the victor. Joe blows and sides with Bush the sooner he goes the better.
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:51 PM
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2. So you are willing to give up control of the senate? Don't be daft. |
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Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 04:51 PM by xultar
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:57 PM
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10. no I don't expect Joe to vote WITH the DEMS |
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Just like he hasn't recently.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:02 PM
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15. We need him and he needs us. Obviously he'll vote with the Democrats. Don't be daft. |
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:53 PM
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3. He lost the party primary. He's no Democrat. |
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He can caucus with us, but he shouldn't hold positions of power. nt
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:54 PM
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4. He holds the balance of power |
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I'm sure the GOP would be more than happy to give him a few committee chairs if he caucuses with them.
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:58 PM
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11. I'm pretty sure he will Because |
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you see it's all about JOE.
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:59 PM
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12. What the hell? They gave him his seat in the Senate |
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Traitors piss me off. So shoot me.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:16 PM
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26. If Va. goes to Webb Joe is |
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null and void do the math 51 dem 48 pukes plus Joe. this implies as most will agree sanders of Vt. votes with us.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:29 PM
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27. No, Webb is #51 including Joe. nt |
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:54 PM
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:54 PM
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5. Yeah, They Should Make Nice |
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I am hoping Lieverman won't be vindictive. After all, Democratic leadership supported him in the Primary. As for the general, well, Lamont WAS the Democratic nominee, so it made sense for DLC to support him.
It's not personal. And I hope Lieberman doesn't take it as such. I think he is smart enough and astute enough to realize that there is nothing to be gained from that and he needs to let bygones be bygones.
On the other hand, if the Republicans offer him a sweeter deal should they control Senate, we may be screwed. Lieberman may not be vindictive, but he sure as heck is an opportunist.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:03 PM
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20. There is simply no way in hell Lieberman will organize with the Republicans |
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He's not evil; he's selfish. Lot of DUers have really gone off the farm with this Lieberman thing.
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:55 PM
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7. after the vote for majority leader LIEberman becomes irrelevant |
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:56 PM
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9. There can be a new vote anytime |
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Remember Jeffords flipping mid session.
Lieberman is most powerful person in the Senate.
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Wed Nov-08-06 04:56 PM
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They should have done some thing to stop him running that third party thing.
They should have overwhelmed Lamont with support.
They should have insisted on blocking him from the debates.
And they should have wooed moderate Repubs to switch to Dem to flush any "power" that asshole thinks he has now.
Better not to have the senate than to be beholding to that whore.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:00 PM
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If Joe does the unthinkable and caucuses with the GOP, is there any way he be recalled? I confess to knowing nothing about how recalls work, or even which states use them... :dunce:
I can't see any reason why he'd want to get further in bed with a dying pachyderm, though.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:01 PM
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14. No recalls for federal office |
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The term lasts 6 years unless he dies, resigns, or is expelled.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:03 PM
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18. Don't get my hopes up. nt |
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:08 PM
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28. If that happens, our Repub governor picks his replacement |
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and she would put the dreaded Nancy Johnson back in Congress. So , please wish Joe good health and a long life - well, at least 6 more years of life.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:04 PM
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Guess we'll have to trust his integrity, then. :scared:
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:02 PM
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16. No. He was elected fair and square |
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Largely due to the facts that the Dem leadership didn't support Lamont, and the Rethug leadership DID support the Traitor. But he still won. And Independents--even evil ones--can caucus with whichever party they want.
But we should do nothing to help this asshole in any way. And the Dem leadership who failed Lamont should be disciplined.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:02 PM
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17. Oh please, stop overstating the case. |
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His vote is no more important than any other Senator's who votes with us. Joe hasn't been elevated by acting so conservative that his own party voted him out and the republicans voted him in.
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:03 PM
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19. If Virginia goes Dem, will not that make us "Joe" proof? We would have 51 |
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:04 PM
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22. Thats 51 including Joe |
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If he flipped it would be 50-50 push goes to the GOP
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:05 PM
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24. The 51 is when you count Lieberman. Without Joe, the Dem lose control of the Senate |
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:05 PM
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25. That's What I'm Thinking !!! |
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Wed Nov-08-06 05:04 PM
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23. No. LIE is untrustworthy. (nt) |
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Wed Nov-08-06 06:18 PM
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29. I've had about enough of this. |
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Look, I generally kept my mouth shut about Lieberman during the campaign, except where I was discussing something that applied to strategy and fitness-for-purpose of the Lamont campaign, which I thought was very poor.
Let me make this clear: If I lived in CT, I would have voted for Lamont. I am no great fan of Joe, either. But this recasting of Lieberman as some sort of malevolent overlord is idiotic.
Lieberman will vote the way he wants to vote on Iraq, and we probably won't like it. But he's not a Republican, he's never going to be a Republican, and he isn't going to interfere with the decisions of the leadership on these issues.
Have any of you doom & gloom people actually studied his career or his voting record? Understand that the weird alliance of Lieberman & Bush was simply a tool for the campaign, allowing each to exert influence they might not have had otherwise. But that doesn't make him a Republican, a spoiler, or whatever.
A bastard? Yes. A republican? Not on your life.
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