One more time... we don't want IMPEACHMENT hearings...

[Rosco T.]

.. we want CORRUPTION hearings. Go across the board of BushCo and get indictments of all the 'little fish' first. Then, after enough of it.. the people will demand IMPEACHMENT.

Don't go looking for it at the beginning.. let it fester and ooze in the public view.

[billybob537]

1. The investigations

already underway will come home to roost soon.

[Mythsaje]

2. THANK YOU

This is what I've been saying. We want to cast a WIDE net and get as many of the sharklings as possible. Then we can go after the Great Whites.

[in_cog_ni_to]

YUP. Let THE PEOPLE tell Nancy to Impeach.

Then they won't blame her and the Dems.

[AntiFascist]

6. That's why it needs to be promoted, to get the people behind it n/t

[Flabbergasted]

3. Yep...in total agreement. The dems in congress already have learned

this lesson from the Clinton Impeachment. They won't touch it until pop opinion is for it.

[Me.]

4. Those Hearings Would Be The First Step

On the yellow brick road

*shadow government*

[MannyGoldstein]

5. YES WE DO WANT IMPEACHMENT

The Smirk's signing statements and executive orders are murderous to a Democracy. They set an awful precedent legally, and the Congress absolutely must act to stop them - or they may lose their right to stop them.

Fortunately, the Rethugs will soon get the ball rolling on impeachment. The long knives are out.

[Quixote1818]

9. Did you just read his title?

He want's impeachment also.

[Swamp Rat]

12. I did... IMPEACH BUSH NOW!

[MannyGoldstein]

15. Emphasis on NOW

Gotta happen.

[Rosco T.]

17. Sign I used to have in my office...

You can have it RIGHT
or you can have it NOW

but you can't have it RIGHT NOW

I'll wait for RIGHT, thank you.

[MannyGoldstein]

24. Then You May End Up With Neither n/t

[hootinholler]

36. IMHO, it's the court's job to stop signing statements.

None of *'s have been tested in court yet. They are unenforceable and obviate no responsibility stemming from authorizing acts contrary to written law. IOW, bring it on Georgie, a sane court will stick those signing statements (hopefully bound) up your sphincter.

-Hoot

[Quixote1818]

7. I agree. Justice will run it's course if we play it cool!

If we start screaming impeachment then we will blow it! If they broke the law it will be found out and then they HAVE to impeach.

Thank You!

[seabeyond]

8. yup. make it all visible n/t

[Swamp Rat]

10. What do you mean WE?!?! ... IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!!

[Generic Other]

27. From sea to shining sea!

[shrdlu]

11. The voters impeached Bush yesterday...

...History will convict him.

[Change has come]

21. nice

:applause: :applause:

[Warren DeMontague]

13. "Rule Of Law" "Rule Of Law" "Rule Of Law"

If they haven't broken the law or violated the constitution, they have nothing to worry about.

[Cleita]

14. Okay by me as long as we don't lose sight of the ultimate

goal and that is to make BushCo accountable for their crimes.

[glaeken777]

16. chill

I know from a moral standpoint the temptation to immediately begin impeachment hearings is overwhelming. In a perfect, black and white world, I'd say yes, too. But, we don't live in that world. I think the Dems are smart enough now to be wary of Repub overtures at this point, and that's all that we need to know for now.

We are riding on a lot of goodwill right now, but let's not make the mistakes Bush made in squandering his. To quote Denzel Washington in TRAINING DAY, this shit's chess, not checkers. Catch the smaller fish... to be sure, there's enough for a heaping pile of rotting, festering corruption.

Once the American people see how high the pile reaches, impeachment will be a sound option. We need to focus right now on keeping the promises made before the election. Impeachment was never one of them.To quote Gene Hackman in MISSISSIPPI BURNING, the rattlesnakes will start to commit suicide. Let them eat their own for a year, then toss the bones in Bush's lap.

[Individualist]

18. We?

Speak for yourself. I say Investigate
Impeach
Imprison the whole damn cabal!

[Red Right and BLUE]

19. Amen.

Let's go for putting these people not just out of office, but where they belong - prison.

[Maven]

20. Exactly

This should be the final word on the matter.

[zyguh]

22. Right, we want the corruption to come out so the Repubs have to bring up Impeachment, LOL

When real investigations start, there is so much evil, and muck that will surface that the public will be crying for the heads of every single Republican. THEY will have to bring up Impeachment just to make us stop digging up all their crimes and cover-ups because they know if we keep going no Republican will ever get elected in this country again.

We investigate the corruption , and keep digging and digging and digging until they Impeach Bush to make us stop, and try to save themselves.

sounds good to me :-)

[Bucky]

26. They will, of course, NEVER support impeachment or removal.

Not in this generation, anyway. Today's Republicans place party above nation, above law, and above logic.

[earth mom]

23. Impeach the big fish! Why waste time?!

:eyes:

[robinlynne]

25. total agreement. I would rather see halliburton people pay back all the money

and go to jail first. We can talk about impeachment later.

[Phrogman]

28. Yesss...lets do it slowww so we can enjoy it longer.

eom

[Donald Ian Rankin]

29. Who are "we" in this context?

*I* think impeachment hearings would be absolutely calamitous and almost certainly lead to major Republican gains in 2008, besides being utterly doomed to failure, but the majority of DUers are too angry at Bush to weigh up the odds and the stakes and are very much in favour of them, I think.

Most of the Senate and Congress Democrats don't want them, some do. The same is true among Democrats as a whole, and among Americans as a whole, with the proportion wanting them obviously a lot higher among the former than the latter, and much lower than at DU in both cases.

I think "we should want" makes more sense in this context than "we want".

[Swamp Rat]

37. "we should want" is why you Brits still have a king.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

38. Actually, we haven't had a king since 1952

And the monarch hasn't been a problem for a hell of a lot longer than that. Having the person who actually wields ultimate authority (the Prime minister) being a nominal servant of someone else, who doesn't have any democratic legitimacy whatsoever (the monarch) actually isn't a bad system, I think - it means we respect, and demand others to respect, our prime ministers much less that you respect your presidents, and we don't get nonsense about it being disloyal to attack them like you've been having to put up with.

If you want to poke holes in the British constitutional system, go for the house of lords. There are still a fair number of people who wield non-trivial power in British politics simply as a result of being hereditary peers, and most of the rest are simply appointees, often as a result of political donations.

The monarch is just ceremonial, completely harmless, and anachronisitic in a good way. The house of Lords has real power, and is a travesty of democracy that survives only because no-one can agree what to replace it with.

[Swamp Rat]

39. You completely missed the point

:)

[Bjorn Against]

30. I agree, investigations now imprisonment later

We need to place the case in the eyes of every American first, and we can not rush that process aiming for impeachment immediately.

If the American people see firsthand just what this Administration has been doing they will be outraged, and I think there is a serious possibility Bush goes to prison. Every good prosecuter builds their case before going for the prize, and we need to realize we need to go about seeking accountability the right way so we can achieve the maximum sentence.

[stepnw1f]

31. I Predict Bush Steps Down from Office before 2008

maybe even sooner.

[greblc]

32. Impeachment = President Dick Cheney

Ethics hearings will drag the GOP into the light and cost them 08'.

[Vidar]

33. Good take on it.

[flyarm]

34. I agree OP..we are all supposed to be innocent till proven guilty

and congressional hearings are like a court of law..only court of congress..

first you have to prove they broke our laws..and that can only happen through hearings..just like the watergate hearings...

the hearings are the trials..you have to try people before you convict..unlike what the rethugs did to Clinton...

we want these mother fuckers tried , and convicted ..then impeachment will follow the evidence!

and slime the rethugs for ever more in the eyes of the entire nation...

there will be no doubt..

the dots will all be connected and when people realize it was all in "plane site" they will know without a doubt they have been made fools of and the blood of so many is on their hands...because of their ignorance!

these hearings will make Nixon's look like child's play!

plus at this point ..we must show the world we are a country based on the rule of law! that is imperative!

and many of these dmes have files full of the goodies!!

fly

[bobbolink]

35. Speak for yourself. Some of us can visualize multitasking...

[happydreams]

40. Why not push for Corruption hearing and Impeachment hearings?

The more the merrier.