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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:54 PM
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Here's to DIEBOLD!
After much worrying, I was happy to report my voting experience and that of my friends using Diebold Touch Screens was effortless. My machine had a paper trail embedded in the machine, and best of all...all the close races favored the Dems, save for Harold Ford but that's just cause TN ain't ready for that yet.

I'm I'm going to slam a company, I should also commend them when they do something right. :toast:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:56 PM
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1. Was it idifficult to read the printout? NT
NT
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:59 PM
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2. No more so than a grocery receipt... n/t
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:01 PM
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3. Making money
It's been my opinion for a long time that a lot of the paranoia is baseless.

My number one reason is that making money trumps anything and everything when it comes to businesses like Diebold, even politics. If for any reason they did try to fix it on a company level and were found out, they would lose everything. Of course, they should be safe and secure and have paper, but I'm not a believer in some of the more tinfoil ideas.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:02 PM
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4. And if no one goes back to compare the individual paper receipts to
the totals printed at the end --- you have *no* way of know whether the totals are accurate.

Short segment from HBO's "Hacking Democracy" --

This segment shows a Diebold engineer stating that there is no 'executable code' on their memory cards. We can see this isn't true as computer expert Harri Hursti shows he is able to hack the program in a demonstration election, changing the result on an issue from 25% in agreement to 87.5% in agreement. What was the issue? "Can Diebold voting machines be hacked?" As you watch this, keep in mind that the types of errors and security vulnerabilities in optical scan systems are similar to those for direct-record electronic machines. At least with optical scan voter-verifiable ballots we can go back and count paper ballots to double-check that the computer count was accurate.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:11 PM
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5. A receipt ain't a ballot, and there's no reason to believe the receipt
matches the ballot count, as we learned from 2004.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:25 PM
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6. Pssst. Dems WON!
:beer:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:37 PM
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8. Yeah, but I don't want to thank Diebold for that. A legit vote could
bring about that result. Most people aren't THAT nuts.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:48 PM
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9. Mexico has corrupt elections...
and I don't think they use Diebold. Point is I thought we wuz gonna get robbed and we wuzn't. Let's drop our anger for one day out of six years. :toast:
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:33 PM
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7. And what would have happened in the close races if the turnout
had been low? I still don't trust ballotless voting.
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