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meuniermr Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:44 PM
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NO on Pelosi for Speaker!
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 09:06 PM by meuniermr
She wants too much moderation IMO, which will co-opt the current revolution and work in partnership with Bush to advance the North American Union and Globalist causes. She will not allow impeachment hearings or other fact-finding and she has stated this. There are also better people qualified such as John Conyers. We can't let the media make Pelosi the figurehead and credit the victory to her when it was really Dean's. CNN: "Pelosi can't take too much credit for her party's triumph." Look at how the Republican revolution in 1994 was compromised in this way by the Globalist Gingrich. We do not need a return to bipartisan civility until we have undone the GOP's unconstitutional bills such as the Patriot Act.
On Edit; I think I need to slap myself and get a grip, Ive been taking Alex Jones literally too much. Me<- :tinfoilhat: :spank:
I still have the same viewpoint, I apologize for not using a less reactionary way to say it.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:45 PM
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1. Whatever.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:46 PM
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2. Daft Bint!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:46 PM
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3. a neocon? uh-huh.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:46 PM
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4. Enjoy your stay. Toodle-loo
Bye-bye
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:46 PM
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5. done deal
she needs to hear from you directly, though
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:49 PM
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18. Agree Big Tree here you go
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:46 PM
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6. Conyers will be busy heading up the Judiciary Cmt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:47 PM
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:47 PM
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Down with the evil San Francisco neocon cabal!!!!
:tinfoilhat:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:47 PM
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8. She's one classy and intelligent lady.
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 08:48 PM by Erika
I'd be proud to have her as Speaker.

By the way, ding-dong, the wicked neocons are dead.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:47 PM
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9. Pelosi is a Neocon? OH NOOOOO!!!!
HELP US JEEBUS!

:sarcasm:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:47 PM
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10. A little too much post election celebrating, eh?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:48 PM
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:50 PM
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21. Not at all.
Ignorance is your enemy.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:53 PM
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32. lol
always a killjoy in the crowd
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:58 PM
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40. You enjoy calling informed people morons?
And at the same time demonstrating ignorance?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:59 PM
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43. Bleh
the person was being outrageous - not really leaving much room for debate - so I followed suit...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:48 PM
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13. have a nice stay!
:hi:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:48 PM
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14. Pfffft......
B.S. We had neocons in power the past six years and look where it got us.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:49 PM
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15. oh, ok if you say so
Don't you have a WTO protest/riot to attend or something?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:49 PM
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16. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bye bye.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:49 PM
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17. Nancy has earned it. She'll be great.
She's hardly a neo-con.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:50 PM
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19. Yerrrrrrrr out!
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meuniermr Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:50 PM
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20. Not a Freeper.. WAY far left, yes.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:51 PM
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22. It's not like we're going to have much of a say in it, anyway . . .
but blather away. We're hopeful we're on our way to being a free country once again, one where people can speak their minds (or not).
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:51 PM
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23. Cleanup on aisle 5
A Freeper is actin' a fool
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:51 PM
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24. I LOVE NANCY PELOSI!
She's a great and talented lady. She IS our new Speaker! THE FIRST MADAME SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES!! That should be CELEBRATED! We need MORE women LEADING us.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:52 PM
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25. I Thought Rahm Emmanuel And Chuck Schumer Were The Architects
They recruited the candidates but whatever...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:52 PM
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26. Who are you?
:shrug:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:52 PM
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27. So who do you propose as Speaker? And is he or she
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 08:54 PM by DemBones DemBones
likely to be elected by his peers? I understand your reservations but who would be better and could win?

edited for typo.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:52 PM
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28. And your suggestion would be ...
Letting Denny Hastert just keep doing his good job?
:sarcasm:

She's great. Her in the position of speaker will be an historic event.

I'm thrilled
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meuniermr Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:56 PM
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38. Conyers;
and I think I need to biatch slap myself and get a grip, Ive been taking Alex Jones literally too much. Me<-:tinfoilhat: :spank:
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:00 PM
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44. I love Conyers ...
I still want to hear "Madam Speaker" though
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:52 PM
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29. But, but, but she has San Francisco values!
I like Pelosi. I think, rather than come out with both guns blazing, she's being very subtle. I imagine there will be hearings, but her first priority has to be showing the country that the Democrats will do a better job for them. None of us want this to be just a two year majority and it would be nice to pick up a few more senate seats in 2008. It won't be too late to do some investigating then.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:53 PM
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30. Awwwww. Who did it follow home?
It's so cute. "..the current revolution..."
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:55 PM
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36. Cut him some slack
He waited an ENTIRE year to post this little nugget.:rofl:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:53 PM
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31. Neocon is sheep's clothing? LOL!
That's not a mixed metaphor, it's a semi-metaphor.

Here's the litmus test: the neocons hate her to their very core. Thus, she is perfectly qualified for the job.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:54 PM
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33. Dude, I think you're screwn.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:55 PM
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35. ...
:rofl:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:58 PM
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41. OK, that was pretty fuckin funny.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:17 PM
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55. Thank you! I'm here all week!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:54 PM
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34. Piffle!
Buh-bye!
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:58 PM
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42. On Monday, Freeps were freaking out that a "San Francisco liberal" could be the Speaker ...
and now she's a neocon???

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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EdwardM Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:02 PM
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45. Please don't accuse this guy of being a troll.
Nothing he said in his post is a lie. Remember Pelosi did vote for the Patriot Act. Please have proof before you call a guy a troll.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:05 PM
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46. Well, I didn't call him a troll
I called him a moron :rofl:

I am surprised my post wasn't deleted yet :rofl:
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:05 PM
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mm-hmmm
:popcorn:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:49 PM
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70. I thought they'd all go home after the election.
Guess Nancy's that scary. Hey, Hillary voted for the Patriot Act, too. BOO!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:05 PM
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47. Maybe it's just me, but...
I think that on a night that we've all dreamed, hoped for, that there's this pissing in the punch bowl. You know?
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EdwardM Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:11 PM
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53. Maybe it's just me but...
Accussing Newbies of being trolls, makes new people not want to post here. Sure maybe Calling Pelosi a Neo Con is a bit extreme, but I can see the rational behind his thinking.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:26 PM
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61. He's been here over a year.
You're not a newbie, either. You both should recognize flamebait when you read it and that's what this thread is - flamebait.
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EdwardM Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:32 PM
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62. I don't know if it is flamebait.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But I'm not gonna accuse him of being a troll until I have proof. I'm not just gonna automatically assume anyone who is new and posts something controversial is some sort of Freeper troll in disguise without proof. The Democratic Party is supposed to be a big tent party. There will be different viewpoints.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:41 PM
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66. Yes, there will be different opinions, but the OP was flamebait.
It's not much better now. And he's NOT new. He's been here over a year. Besides, there is a history here of freepers delurking after elections making his timing extremely unfortunate, at best.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:16 PM
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73. Different viewpoints yes ..... but ..........
take a look at the rules in posting in this forum ..... seen um haven't you? :evilgrin:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:09 PM
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51. I Think Ninety Nine Senators Voted For It...
I'm not sure about the House but I'd like to see who opposed it there...
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EdwardM Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:16 PM
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54. I believe Feingold voted against it in the Senate
I don't know who voted for it in the Congress. Its a shame that so many Senators didn't read the law before they passed it, but atleast Pelosi is against it now.
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meuniermr Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:07 PM
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48. Re-edited...
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 09:12 PM by meuniermr
She wants too much moderation IMO, which will co-opt the current revolution and work in partnership with Bush to advance the North American Union and Globalist causes. She will not allow impeachment hearings or other fact-finding and she has stated this. There are also better people qualified such as John Conyers. We can't let the media make Pelosi the figurehead and credit the victory to her when it was really Dean's. CNN: "Pelosi can't take too much credit for her party's triumph." Look at how the Republican revolution in 1994 was compromised in this way by the Globalist Gingrich. We do not need a return to bipartisan civility until we have undone the GOP's unconstitutional bills such as the Patriot Act.
On Edit; I think I need to slap myself and get a grip, Ive been taking Alex Jones literally too much. Me<- :tinfoilhat: :spank:
I still have the same viewpoint, I apologize for being too reactionary in my OP. What I really want is for our party to have a strong backbone so the "Sweet Jesus What Is It" cartoon is never posted again!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:20 PM
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56. Unfortunately what do have to be moderate...get a few things out of
the way while investigating the fuck out of the WH.


I don't think you should call a moderate Dem a neocon. That's pretty daft.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:08 PM
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49. I love alex jones' "reporting"
But everything with a grain of salt, fact checking, and no crack pipes.

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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:09 PM
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50. Oh, hell...
Pelosi's too moderate for me, and even I'm happy to see her as Speaker!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:11 PM
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52. The first woman Speaker of the House.
It's...history, dammit. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the State of the Union...just to see Speaker Pelosi sitting behind Bush. :-)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:21 PM
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57. Zactly!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:22 PM
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58. Lets be the mirror image of BushCO and Delay! YEAH!!!!!!!!!
:eyes:
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American Jesus Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:24 PM
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59. I agree that most of the credit of the victory goes to Dr. Dean, but....
...He's not in the House of Representatives. So if Nancy Pelosi isn't the speaker, who is?
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:26 PM
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60. Perfect Post to what Nancy says about ........
DRAINING THE SWAMP. Thank's for making it easy on the rest of us. By the way ever hear of Fly Paper? :rofl: Oh I could go on and on. Too funny. Thank's for the laughs. Peace and all the best. :)
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:32 PM
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63. NO!!! Pelosi has earned this position
She's been serving the Democratic Party and America for years. She deserves it, let's give it to her.
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meuniermr Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:41 PM
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65. She also went along with the Mil. Commissions act.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:53 PM
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71. I don't care if she did
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 09:54 PM by ck4829
Bush was going to get this one way or another. NOW we can fight it.
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meuniermr Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:14 PM
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72. She..
Agreed to leave posse comitatus out, and pledged 40k more troops in Iraq in her speech last night.
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:39 PM
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64. What's wrong with globalism?
I didn't vote Democratic to put up walls. I'm hoping we can finally get some good trade agreements passed that include trade adjustment assistance and scrap protections and subsidies for agribusiness and textiles.

I think the Democrats have a good opportunity to promote progressive globalism.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:47 PM
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69. Madame Speaker Pelosi...has a nice ring to it...
It is historic. She is more than capable of handling the job.

Will be interesting when she sits behind Bush...she will see his radio hookup.

Minimum wage first. Bush will have to veto. Then Nancy goes to the people. She has, with her first 100 hours, she will have Bush hogtied.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:42 PM
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67. she voted against the war, thats excellent to start with.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:26 PM
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75. As leader of the House, it's her duty to start talking us the hell outta Iraq
and not talk about how many more troops we need there.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:43 PM
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68. Gingrich went after Clinton too aggressively
And look where that got Gingrich.

It's not compromise to not pursue impeachment - it's smart politics. We HAVE to win in 2008 by promoting an agenda, NOT by getting embroiled in the inevitable circus of recriminations and distractions. We have to win beyond 2008. The nation cannot endure another 12 year drought of Democratic leadership in Congress.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:21 PM
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74. ZombyWoof speaks the ZombyTroof!
And to the op: Wow, take a xanax or something. ;)
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:47 PM
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76. I'm with you on this ZW -- There is work to be done, and the party
will ultimately be judged on whether they get the business of the nation -- healthcare, energy conservation, global warming, retirement, wages, etc -- taken care of.

Having said that, I'd love to see Cheney investigated because he seems to be the one with the most secrets, and the lost likely to be hung with financial corruption. But I want the business of the nation covered first.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:11 PM
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77. Locking.
The election's only what, 20 hours old. We've known for months that if we took the House, Congresswoman Pelosi would most likely become the Speaker of the House. How about giving this discussion some room for civility all around?

Thanks.
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