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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:49 PM
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What if LIEberman becomes a Republican?
I don't trust him when he says he will caucus with the Democrats. He didn't honor the Democratic voters of Connecticut, so why would he keep his word now?

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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:50 PM
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1. How could you tell? n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:51 PM
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2. Hell. The Dems in CT didn't honor him.
He scares me even more right now.



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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:33 AM
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37. That's an asinine thing to say.
An elected representative serves the voters, not the other way around; if Connecticut Democrats decided to nominate someone OTHER than Joe, that was their prerogative.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:31 PM
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39. I agree with everything you said.

You've misunderstood what I wrote. But it may not be your fault.

Here in CA, I honored Debra Bowen with a vote. I'd do it for Conyers were I in MI. Etc.

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:51 PM
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3. He won't become a republican.
He's a liberal despite his view on the war.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:52 PM
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4. Is his seniority based on party position, or years in Congress?
And then, there are the committees.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:01 PM
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14. right, he wants a top post- he will play ball or be relagated to
to the basement.
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:37 PM
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34. Party position
He stated if he were to caucus with the Republicans he would lose his seniority, so he is not going to go over there.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:25 AM
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35. Right. He'll just vote with them instead.
Because they didn't put him back in the Senate for free.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:53 PM
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5. BECOMES? n/t
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:53 PM
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6. I think he'll stick with the Dems, only because they have the power now.
Joe is in it for Joe. The Republicans are as popular as a hemorrhoid these days, and they are now officially the minority party. Joe can't get much out of going to their side any more.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:46 PM
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30. Exactly. Joe is in it for Joe.
He'll stick with the Dems, keep his seniority, and maybe will even be able to wangle a few extra little perks and baubles out of Reid and company. I can at least see him forcing the few Democratic Senators who REALLY supported Lamont to apologize to him, if only privately.

The one sticky thing that came out of this election, even assuming Allen does finally lose, is that Joe is the man in the middle with the power to move the world (that's the Senate to a Senator) in his hands. Ol' Joe is about to become one well-pampered diva of operatic proportions.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:53 PM
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7. Joe is singularly Joe. He's a Leibertarian. I've no use for him.
Unless he repents and chooses his once chosen party over
his personal agenda.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:53 PM
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8. He wants to be with the majority. He'll stay a Democrat.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:54 PM
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9. This Thread Is A Waste Of Bandwith.
He has said ad infintum and ad nauseum he will caucus with the Dems...
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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:54 PM
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10. There will probably be a democratic president in 2008
if Joementum defects, he will be totally isolated. Count on Joementum doing what is best for Joementum.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:55 PM
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11. Because the Democrats can now give him things in return

he'd be more of a freakin' fool than he already is if he doesn't go with the Majority.

:dem:
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:33 PM
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32. Well, as Nixon (I think) said about J. Edgar Hoover...
...better to have him in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:56 PM
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12. Then he's stupid
The power structure just shifted away from the Republicans. Look to Lieberman to come crying back to us to let him back in.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:59 PM
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13. Lieberman confirms he'll caucus with Dems
snip

...Lieberman reiterated his pledge to remain with the Democrats, saying a prime consideration was maintaining his 18 years of seniority on Capitol Hill in order to help Connecticut...

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-08172445.apds.m0321.bc-ct-eln--nov08,0,5680837.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:06 PM
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17. ack! And I suppose the Dems will let him
what we have to put up with in our big stinking tent is really a little much sometimes. But the Dems are the party of "when you have to go there, they have to take you in."

sigh

cosy place called home

(heheWEWONhehe)
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:10 PM
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19. Heard on the radio today
Lieberman said that Reid called him this morning to congratulate him & to say that he did not have to worry about losing his seniority.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:38 PM
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26. sigh--we need every D
even if they are SOBs
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:14 PM
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20. Uh, he's a liar. Anyone trust b*s*, who is also a liar?
Believe it when I see it - and then I'll STILL be watching him.

If people think we're done trying to hold lieberman accountable - think again.

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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:01 PM
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15. What do you mean if?
70% Republics voted for him.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:04 PM
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16. because now he risks being in the minority before he thought he was in the majority
He will come through remember Joe represents Joe and today Joe sees who he is better off with.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:08 PM
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18. If he had honored the voters, he's be Sec Def right now
He always has been Bush's favorite Democrat.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:15 PM
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21. He won't. Rats never jump ON to a sinking ship, y'know. n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:18 PM
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22. Then we've got a problem
I'm glad I'm not a Senate Democrat. They have play nice to Lieberman. I don't.
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Blue State Blues Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:23 PM
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23. He has more power if he doesn't become a R
The Dems have more to offer him at the moment. He can also be the center of R attention with the possibility of being a swing vote on some issues and it can't be lost on him that he was elected with R money and R votes. As long as he doesn't change sides, he will be courted by both.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:31 PM
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24. And With The Reich Defending 21 Seats In 08 vs 12 Dem Seats
the Democrats will more than likely add to their margin in the Senate in 08.

Joe switches now, he will probably just find himself in the minority party in 08.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:34 PM
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25. At this point we should let the baby have his bottle
It's the chair of one Senate committee. If that keeps him quiet for a few months and gets him to vote Reid for Majority Leader, then so be it.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:40 PM
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27. "becomes a Republican"
Hell, he's been a Freeper all along!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:43 PM
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28. Lieberman's a freaking freeper, Flottz
don't skimp on the alliterative adjectives
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 07:05 AM
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38. He'd hug one the Clydesdales couldn't pull!
If it was attatched to a neocon!
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:46 PM
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29. Then lots of Democrats will be kicking themselves for many years to come. nt
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:16 PM
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31. One basic reason
besides the power thing and the tempting "bi-partisan caucus" dream he and some others have been desiring fruitlessly since 2000. Yes, my loyal GOP voter, he IS a liberal on many issues, not a Zell Miller deep south conservative nor one who gave lip service to the GOP party planks. This what the GOP woke up to in Connecticut. A non-party that ITSELF has floated into independence limbo for nothing at all. That is one way for the Ct. GOP to die like clowns whether you like the method or the man or not. Bush owned the GOP and partly owns Lieberman and will have little for all his pains either. The GOP has been had by a will o wisp as twisty as the most devious GOP poser.

Now we put with Zell during the first Senate majority and got much less for our pains. This time it is very much stranger and different and not as unpleasant policy-wise once Bush is removed from ass-kissing prominence.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:36 PM
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33. He's the last remaining high profile neo con
Bush is an empty head just doing what Cheney and Rumsfeld told him to.

While Lieberman is not a signatory to PNAC he utterly embraces all its principles and is the last high profile PNACer standing. I do not count Cheney as he is now utterly irrelevant. He hasn't even appeared in the last two days. Poof. He's a non person
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:30 AM
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36. He won't
I'm no fan of his but look at his voting record he's very liberal cept for a few things. Also in the primary he was supported by the likes of Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer etc. he'll remain with the D after his name.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:32 PM
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40. He's Not Already?! (nt)
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