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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:21 PM
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Tim Russert is in Shock.
He was freaking out.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:22 PM
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1. Good!
To hell with him and all the "news" reporters that sucked up to Bush these last six horrible years.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:22 PM
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2. .
he's another shit sandwich eater....fuk him
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:26 PM
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8. ?
I'm kind of literal, so I doubt what you just said and wonder what you mean.

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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:50 PM
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45. .......!
:o :rofl:

literally, or figuratively?
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:23 PM
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3. I think we should let up on Russert
I like him, and I don't think he's very biased at all. I can see what you all mean about "Tweety"; when I was listening to his analysis today, there were tell-tale signs of his political leanings coming through. But Russert? Naw. In my opinion at least, he's a moderate commentator.
Ringo
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:24 PM
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4. we have been living in parallel universes you and I. nt
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:26 PM
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9. Really?
Well, I don't watch Russert all the time, so I could very well be wrong. How has he been partisan?
Ringo
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:34 PM
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17. Here are a few examples
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:07 PM
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53. ROFLMAO!!! As if DUers prefer the truth over what they want to believe.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:06 PM
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52. We'll forgive you for your uninformed post....
Because believe me, you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:51 PM
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48. i have been parked horizontally in it in for six years
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:27 PM
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10. No, he's not. It's just that you haven't had an unbiased commentator
for such a long time you don't know what it sounds like. His questions are very slnnted and he rarely ever follows up when a Republican gives a silly answer...he lets them get away with it every time. It's just not professional.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:28 PM
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11. Maybe
But I've heard he's a Democrat. Maybe he gives Democrats harder questions to be more fair.

I'm not defending him, necessarily. I'm just suggesting alternative ways to look at it.
Ringo
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:40 PM
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20. You heard WRONG. He's no Democrat. NT
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:24 AM
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31. Biased Blowhard
Ringo, How old are you? If you're old enough you remember watching meet the press when it really was objective, with real journalists. Russert NEVER calls a Republican out when they lie. Yet he often badgers, and tries to put words in the mouths of Democrats.

You need to contrast today's talking heads with those anchors of yesteryear such as Cronkite, Brinkley, Murrow etc.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:49 PM
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43. They should bring back that format...
...or at least change the name. Guests were not always guaranteed of a soft time of it when Spivak (does THAT give away my age????) was running the show. Whatever happened to the panelist format for Sunday news shows, anyway?

Now, it's like, "The Coffee and Donuts with Tim Hour."

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 05:10 PM
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55. You're right...
With Timmy Taterhead on there sucking up to the GOP, it should be Meat The Puss.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:29 AM
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32. Um, a Democrat? Timmeh? Oh, my.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:44 PM
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25. You got that. he never grills Repugs.
He interviewied Rummy a few times, for instance.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:44 PM
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27. right, he's a total hack
I despise him even more because so many people give him a pass. I don't know why that is. I remember how he's kissed just about every repuke's ass that he's ever interviewed. Maybe it's cause he looks like Randy Quaid or something.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:47 PM
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30. Most of the Media are bad Interviewers.
Except Bill Moyers.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:31 PM
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13. I will NEVER let up on GOP buttboy Russert




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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:32 PM
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16. "Daschle is a traitor"
He said that? What was the context?
Ringo
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spancks Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:40 PM
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21. Don't call him a buttboy,
...it's insulting to buttboys.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:42 PM
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22. Well, I apologize
It looks like I'm WAY wrong.

:( Disappointing. :thumbsdown:
Ringo
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:33 AM
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35. Hey! Your username is offensive...
to spanckers.
:rofl:
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spancks Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:14 AM
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37. LOL!!
:7
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:32 PM
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14. You're right. I was just shocked that he is shocked, but he definitely
was being more emotional than usual. He knows he's reporting things that will be in History books.

What do we do about Cheney's private war that we started in Iraq?

All of this is kind of a big shock for everyone. Everyone I know says Bush's War makes them very depressed.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:39 PM
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19. Oh PLEASE. That little asswipe wore a goddamn BUSH button under his lapel
at the Al Smith dinner before the OO election, chuckled about it, and you want us to give him a pass? FUCK HIM. And the horse he rode in on. And that asswipe JACK WELCH who whispered in his ear about the glory of the GOP and the many ways to make money by being a member of the Good Old Poodles. Tim Russert, who was up to his fat, florid ass in PLAMEGATE? Come one.

Let that fat bastard retire to his overpriced island home and never darken our airwaves again. He should be fucking INDICTED. He is COMPLICIT. He turned a once-great news program, MEET THE PRESS, into a GOP fucking INFOMERCIAL.

Moderate? Yeah, Attila the Hun was a moderate, too. Fuck Timmy. If you like him, you need to get out more and make some NICE friends. Then you'll be better equipped to know the difference between a reporter and a GOP scribe.

Here, read it and weep:
http://www.pkblogs.com/openlettertotimrussert/2006/01/russerts-no-match-for-arianna.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/nbc-news-pr-department-ge_b_14540.html
http://openlettertotimrussert.blogspot.com/2006/01/russert-feels-heat-lashes-out-at.html
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:52 PM
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49. yeah.....what you said
agree with every word.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:43 PM
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24. Not biased? He's a fucking piece of shit, no offense...
Man...
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:46 PM
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28. Agree - He gives everyone shit
They say the same things akin to "GOP Buttboy" over in Freeperville. :eyes:

Now LAUER - he's a GOP Buttboy.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:30 AM
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33. Russert is extremely partisan, but fairly sneaky about it.
He generally ambushes Dems more than Republicans. He lets people like Condoleeza Rice say what they want without challenging it, when everyone knows she has lied about everything from Iraq's weapons capabilities to whether airplane attacks had been considered prior to 9/11.

Put someone like Howard Dean on his show, and he's going to make him explain why the Democratic Party doesn't hate the military.

It's a bit more subtle, but ultimately, the bias is clear.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:17 AM
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38. He's like Brooks...
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:25 PM
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5. He was never the same after they took his whiteboard away.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:25 PM
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6. Good. Get a clue, Russert.
The media is the biggest circle jerk in our country. They get their agenda from other media types. We might at well not exist.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:43 PM
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23. This is true.
There are many other choices.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:25 PM
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7. What did Mr. Potatohead say now?
Was he surprised that the 'fix' wasn't working?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:35 PM
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18. It's just that he was so droolingly convinced...
of Karl Rove's INCREDIBLE GENIUS! And "the fix."

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:29 PM
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12. About what?
No more access to D.C. parties?
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:32 PM
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15. Why? He shouldn't be n/t
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:44 PM
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26. Yes, he should be. I am.
Shocked and fatigued.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:47 PM
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29. Last night, when he was doing his little whiteboard thingie,
I swear there was this moment where he stopped talking for a second, his face crinkled up and he looked for all the world like he was going to cry.

He probably farted.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:30 AM
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34. Maybe the nasty Rethugs....
...Will all have stokes for Xmass.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:34 AM
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36. can i ask what happened or is this residual denial from last night?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:41 PM
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39. Nothing much. Tone + Emotional tenor = Stress!!
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:44 PM
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40. I always thought Ted Koppel was pretty unbiased.......
I guess that's why he's gone.......
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:46 PM
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41. Russet has his head up the administratiions ass for so long, I thought he was attached.
give me a break.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:47 PM
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42. Isn't he tied to the ongoing investigations...?
He likely has reason to freak out.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 05:02 PM
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54. Up to his flaccid ass in PLAMEGATE... NT
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:50 PM
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44. he was probably shocked in 1994 as well. Folks like him
like to believe they see things coming. They've even invented the "6 year swing" so that they can cope with the shock. They'll be shocked in 2014 when it doesn't happen.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:50 PM
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46. That makes me very happy.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:51 PM
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47. please explain why?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:02 PM
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50. They're mostly all corporate media whores anyway,
why should Timmy be any different.


Collaborators of Catastrophe: Inside the Ministry of Truth

By Manuel Valenzuela

Storytellers of the American Narrative


The creators of American reality, those propagators of charades and mirages who dwell inside the hallways of the Ministry of Truth – otherwise known as the Corporate Media – continue their dance of deception and whitewash, festering in their offices of propaganda, directing the narratives and the epics hundreds of millions of Americans consider truth. Much like the disappearance of warmth giving way to the crispness of cold arrives with each annual changing of leaves, so the remarketing of American reality is altered by the changing faces of circumstance. Today, this change is the complete disaster that is the occupation of Iraq, an endeavor whose initial fruition could not have taken shape without the blitzkrieg marketed incessantly into every home and mind in America by the Department of Propaganda, the Ministry of Truth and its army of pseudo-journalists.

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Inside the Ministry of Truth, America’s departments of smoke and mirrors are hard at work, busy creating and re-creating the perception of reality of 300 million American citizens that must never be allowed to see beyond the bubble of the Dream. It is in these dark rooms where marketers and public relations gurus and spin masters and damage control experts and media executives and political Machiavellis gather, where America’s fantasy-laden reality is engendered and molded, where the strategies and campaigns conditioning Americans how to think are given life, to be disseminated through the airwaves and in print, penetrating minds and lives, making us the mere servant class of the elite. What can we expect, after all, out of an institution which has since its inception been financed and supported by the Establishment? What interests will be furthered and powers expanded by the corporate media when it is owned and operated by the corporate world, itself owned by the ruling class? What is to be expected when the Ministry of Truth is pregnant with the pretenders and contenders of elitism, the wanna bees of the ruling class, its placenta bursting with the elite’s sons and daughters and heirs to the thrones of propaganda and the Establishment? In the end, what can be expected when the hand that feeds the Ministry of Truth is part of the same body whose other hand exploits and oppresses the working and middle classes?

When it is understood who the Ministry of Truth works for, whose interests it has always pursued, then it becomes obvious whose version of reality we will forever see and be conditioned to accept. The Ministry of Truth does the bidding for the ruling class, doing its dirty work, concocting the excuses to wage war, the cataclysmic events needed to mobilize an entire population, the manipulations needed to create the citizenry’s acceptance. The Iraq war was allowed to transpire because of the direct role of the Ministry of Truth and all who work inside its bowels. Its lies and deceptions were flaunted while its truths and realities were purposefully hidden. The voices of dissent and debate were made extinct while those of warmongers and pro-war talking heads were granted an audience. The entire mechanisms of the corporate media were used to sell war to the American people, in the end succeeding in making Iraq and Iraqis the equivalent of Al-Qaeda. After that was accomplished, war was a foregone conclusion.

SNIP

They are hired because they protect the interests of the mother country and those of the ruling class, easily selling out to money and greed and fame, sacrificing truth to the whips of fiction and suppression and evisceration of reality. They are, quite simply, tools and instruments set in motion to maintain millions in eternal ignorance while enhancing the interests of their masters. For this they have no remorse, nor for the devastation of truth they help maintain. Their job is the genesis of American reality, of becoming the front lines against the assault on the American people, their job the enhancement of a fictional Dream that keeps millions passive, apathetic and acquiescent. It is this group of pseudo-journalists, gatekeepers and executives that possess the magic ticket the rest of the population will never acquire, regardless of talent, ability and potential greatness. All that is needed to join this exclusive club is the right sign, star and lineage, the right connections, religion and ethnicity, as well as a willingness to both abandon truth for the Almighty Dollar and imprison the American people inside the dungeons of concocted reality.

http://valenzuelasveritas.blogspot.com/2006/10/collaborators-of-catastrop_116183596570185445.html
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:05 PM
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51. What happened?
I was watching "Top Chef" and I come back and find this thread. What did I miss?
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