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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:19 AM
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To those want impeachment.
If you want impeachment despite that Nancy Pelosi does not, you can begin a movement to do so.

"The World can't wait, drive out the Bush regime" turned into an ineffective movement.

Why? Because they appeared bluster with no clout.

If you want to force Bush and Cheney to resign, do it beginning January when Nancy Pelosi takes over as speaker, then begin a financial attack on the corporations that give money to the Republican party.

You have heard people express the notion "money talks". Well then begin a movement to contact

Dell computers
Walmart
Wendy's Restaurants
Olive Garden
Outback Steakhouse
Dominos Pizza
Eckerd
CVS
Walgreens
General Electric
Exxon/Mobil


and tell them, get your CEO to get Bush and Cheney to resign or you never buy anything from them again.


MONEY TALKS, BULLSH*T WALKS


Go forth and spread the word. Why plaintively ask for impeachment, demand it under threat of sanctions on the Republican party contributors.

No Justice? No commerce!

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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:27 AM
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1. I'm alreay helping.. I dont eat domino's
it tastes like crap, shop at walmart or walgreens. I verbally abuse my companies GE rep everytime i see him and i buy Apple. What more can one man do?!
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:36 AM
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4. You did not read my post carefully. I said to call these companies.
Call these companies and tell them: Get your CEO to get Bush and Cheney to resign or you buy nothing from them until the CEO gets them to resign.

Then tell as many people to call these companies.

Now I leave it up to you. Do you want a citizens impeachment trial? Go forth and spread the message.

Otherwise forever hold your peace.

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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:29 AM
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2. Impeach the Smirk and Snarl show
Show the world the people are the master of their own house and that the Constitution is more important to us then the aspirations and mechanizations of the dupes and players of the shadow government that destroyed the the in towers in New York. They did it in order to blame it on terrorist aircraft hijackers to change the national climate to make it a better, friendlier environment for war and oppression.

We must not lose the focus in striving for the truth as to what happened on 9 11. This election cannot be used as those in the shadow government wish to take the heat off of them.

Keep their feet to the fire, reveal in as profound and explicit a way what really happened when Americans killed Americans in New York and Washington, D.C. om 9 11.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:45 AM
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5. So we begin another hunting of the President? So lame.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 05:13 AM
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9. They violated national and international law, and nobody is above it
I support an aggressive adjudication of those laws these people have violated, or by virtue of giving into pragmatism of what is convenient for Democrats and progressive minded people, we become accessories after the fact to these serious and systemic violations of important international and national laws governing human rights, and the conduct of war.

You are being myopic with all due respect, and I am glad to violate your comfort zone, because maintaining the new warm fuzziness of the comfort zone created by the results of this election does not serve the principles of justice and adherence to the principles of human rights.

Nor does your view do a damn thing to guarantee that the results of this election will be lasting ones, or help to expand or deepen them.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 08:03 AM
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14. Whatever. You just can't wait till he's gone can you?
We meaning the Democratic Party and America, have a lot of shit to fix that he fucked up. To waste precious time trying to impeach him is absurd.

Go for the jugular. No one in Washington is listening.

And I won't either.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:40 AM
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15. You are not listening, read my lips; HE HAS COMMITTED CRIMES
You don't 'wait until a murderer is gone.' You deal with the fact criminal acts have been committed and you do that so more of the same cannot happen with such impunity again. We operate under the system of Stare Decisis where establishing a precedent determines how future law violations are dealt with.

Bush has illegally violated the sovereignty of another country primarily motivated by greed for power and capital, he used the opportunity to enrich his friends and Cheney's former business associates. This has caused theft of tax payer dollars, the death an maiming of hundreds of thousands of people - Iraqi, American people primarily - turned over a million and a half people into refugees, has trashed our national reputation worldwide, and done many other things and you are blaming me because I am pissed aggrieved and want justice served?

Buddy, you have problems understanding that there are consequences to extremely serious law violations here, and just as he is not above th law, the United States is not above the law in the community of nations.

We are far better served by brining this set of known and obvious criminals to justice. In the short run it won't help your part and create turmoil, but in the long run we Will all be far better off if we respect the rule of law enough to show we serve it and adhere to it.

You talk of sweeping blood under the rub if you care to, but that does not make me respect you Democrats at all and makes nobody else respect you much either. If you want power and responsibility, in the final analysis you have to show worthiness for it, and that only comes by serving those principles and the justice Democrats say they care about.

And if that means impeaching Bush to do this, you do it. No good at all is served by whining that it is inconvenient and bothersome to prosecute the deserving.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:16 PM
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16. Know what, in the end you won't get your way but the people will.
Why do you hate America?

Goodbye.

See you in 2008
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:32 AM
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3. Simple Constitutional rhyme to Bush

Article Two Section Four,
We can't impeach if you resign before!

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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:51 AM
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6. The GOP has helped me on this boycott
By effectively eliminating my career (IT/telephony) in 2001 and reducing the economy to the servant sector, they have made it easy to boycott these companies by eliminating my disposable income.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 05:04 AM
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7. Um, you're missing the point!

Impeachment is great, getting them to resign is great, boycotts can even be great, but what is even better? Exposing what they have done for the world to see and making sure it doesn't happen again, even fixing the system a little in the process. That would be excellent.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 05:08 AM
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8. The pressure NEEDS to remain on our electeds. THEY need to do this.
And they NEED to know WE are behind them completely.
In the meantime, I do as little business as possible with any of those companies....GE is tough though, but I try.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 05:19 AM
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10. You're missing the point.
Yes do not buy their products.

But you need to CALL these companies. Make this demand of them.

If every one of the people who showed up for the rallies of World Can't wait drive out the Bush regime stayed home and sat in their living room and called these companies instead they would create such a tumult that they would really drive out the Bush regime. Well again I leave it up to you. Call these companies and demand their resignation under threat of boycott or don't complain about Bush and Cheney.

As for DainBramaged, I will assume you vote no :)

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:20 AM
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11. Investigate, yes. But impeach? Not unless
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 06:22 AM by pnwmom
we have the 67 votes to convict him in the Senate.

Why do we want to give him the chance to say that he was found NOT GUILTY in the Senate? We won't have gained anything, and he and the rest of his gang of hoodlums will feel vindicated.

Drain the swamp. Dig up all the dirt. Make him and the rest of his thugs wallow in it. But don't impeach him unless we have a good chance of convicting him -- 67 solid votes.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:31 AM
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12. I don't want corporations having that much influence. Sorry.
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 06:32 AM by casus belli
I think encouraging corporations to exert control over our political system is not only a waste of time, but spits in the face of what our Democracy is supposed to represent. If a company like Walmart has the ability to get a sitting President to resign his position, then our Democracy is - in a word - screwed. And, I don't personally believe we should be getting them to try.

Now, take some of that energy and put some pressure on AM Radio talk show sponsors, asking them to encourage the hosts to tone down the rhetoric and political one-sidedness or else pull their advertising, and you will probably have a cause worthy of celebrating.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 07:18 AM
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13. BINGO!
Start Local. That is how we got taken over by these criminals in the first place.
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