Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Thu Nov-09-06 07:47 AM
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Justice, not Revenge. But justice requires investigation. |
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We voted for change and accountability. To instigate change we need a basis of reality to operate from. So, we MUST investigate:
Voting irregularities and election fraud
The total unConstitutionality/illegality of Torture/Habeas Corpus
Corruption and the sale of public assets for private profit. (These assets might include our legislative process for one and how it is traded like a commodity by lobbyists, it might include some energy investigations, it might tie in to crooked elections, etc.) We need to heed the advice of Deep Throat and "follow the money" wherever it may lead us. People from both parties may fall - too bad.Take a big broad broom and sweep all the scum out of the house.
If investigation uncovers crime, those who committed the crimes must be held to account.
To correct deficiencies, you have to know exactly what the deficiencies are. Nancy Pelosi and the Dems MUST investigate the shenanigans of the Republicans or they would be abrogating their OWN responsibility to us, the American Public. It's call oversight. It is called checks and balances. It's why they won the election.
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Thu Nov-09-06 07:52 AM
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1. Verily. Amen and Amen! |
Liberal In Texas
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Thu Nov-09-06 08:13 AM
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2. Yes. If wrong-doers are not held accountable, we'll get future wrong-doers. |
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I was taught that you deter crime with the assuredness of punishment, not the severity. Investigation will at the very least cause future politicians to think twice about what they try to do.
It is also why we need to stay on top of election fraud. If it's believed it can not be gotten away with, it's less likely to happen.
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Thu Nov-09-06 08:39 AM
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Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Thu Nov-09-06 04:38 PM
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4. I don't think any of our Dems can just unilaterally "take things off the table" |
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How can you take a result off the table when you didn't even construct a table in the first place.
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Thu Nov-09-06 06:11 PM
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5. I really liked John Conyers's Peoples Hearings in Ohio and |
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elsewhere. The best way to open the minds of millions who've been hoodwinked by Dubya and company for six years IMO is to make it easy for them to hear from ordinary people who know better, from firsthand experience. The THREAT of impeachment may drive more media coverage for such hearings than they would have received before Tuesday's outcomes.
Election reform: As in Conyers's hearings in 2004-2005, let's hear from people who stood in hours-long lines, whose provisional ballots were not counted, who received annoying robocalls, who received threats of arrest if they showed up at the polls, who've been disfranchised for LIFE because of a fairly minor crime they were convicted of decades ago, etc. Then hold more traditional hearings where professionals testify for legislation to reform HAVA with mandatory national standards in statewide elections, national standards for recounts and audits, guarantees against arbitrary disfranchisement from "Voter ID" and "right precinct only" counting of provisional ballots, etc. Then actually pass the legislation!
School and college aid: Let's hear from faimilies whose tuition costs skyrocketed ....
"Backdoor draft" for Iraq: Let's hear from survivors of soldiers who died when their Iraq tours were extended arbitrarily ...
"Homeland Security": Let's hear from the Canadian whom DHS kidnapped to Syria for torture, from those released from Guananamo after years without habeas corpus, ...
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Thu Nov-09-06 08:54 PM
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6. as a purely practical matter, investigation probably does preclude |
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impeachment, because once the people of the US find out what these guys were really doing, in the investigatory phase, impeachment will become moot as they resign and flee the country. Black helicopters will probably be picking them off the roof of the White House and taking them to Paraguay
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