James Addison Baker III Is a Big Part of the Problem - He's Not Part of the Solution

[CorpGovActivist]

Capitol Hill Dems looking to James Addison Baker III as some kind of "bury the hatchet lifeline" on Iraq should realize:

1. BakerBotts - and Baker himself - are right in the thick of the Halliburton issues.

2. BakerBotts - and Baker himself - are a Trojan Horse, not the sword to cut the Gordian Knot.

Search on BakerBotts: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/45012/000126947606000015/whereischriscox.htm

Other filings in the series so far: http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=smith+david+allen&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany

- David A. Smith, Editor of www.HALwhistleblowers.org AND www.BushBunglesBrigade.org
(not to be confused, ever again, with David R. Smith, the as-yet-unindicted VP of Tax at Halliburton, my former employer)

[dogday]

1. All you need to know is who to call when you want to steal Florida....

He orchestrated the whole recount for the repulicans...

[CorpGovActivist]

5. The Only Talking the Dems Should Be Doing with Baker...

... would be under oath, under Congressional subpoena.

- Dave

[malaise]

7. Bingo n/t

[liberaldemocrat7]

30. Looks like the Republicans suffer from Addison's disease :)

Baker looks like a very loathsome person and acts that way.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. The only thing worse than an incompetent capitalist swine

is a competent one.

[CorpGovActivist]

6. Jimmy Boy Baker, Like KKKarl...

... is over-rated.

- Dave

[Missy M]

12. I agree and so is Poppy.

[CorpGovActivist]

14. Babs' Pearls ...

... were bought with dirty money.

Every time I see them, I can't help but think of how the Bush Family fortune was made.

- Dave

[Missy M]

20. The Bush family is covered with slime and Poppy....

and his dirty deeds go back a long time. The Bush Family fortune is still being made with Poppy at the helm.

[CorpGovActivist]

22. Disgorgement Proceedings and RICO...

... can put that money back in the rightful hands.

- Dave

[Virginia Dare]

29. I believe Babsy actually was worth more than Poppy...

when they married. I've always thought that was the secret to their "attraction"

[CorpGovActivist]

31. Since She Didn't Take W out behind the Woodshed...

... We the People did her parenting for her.

- Dave

[sweetheart]

91. are they fake!!

All this time, i thought that was her natural bust.

[acmejack]

3. What Dave said!

Baker Botts is, like Baker himself, demonspawn!

[CorpGovActivist]

8. The Chickens Come Home to Roost...

... maybe his grandfather didn't teach him that.

I guess he shoulda listened to his granddaddy: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=baker+keep+out+of+politics

- Dave

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. God, is that true. If they remove the offensive parties, all of them would

go. Don't they get it? They have more heads than Al Qaeda.

[radfringe]

9. Does Gates factor into this at all?

and if Gates is involved with a scandal where he is the only major player would it be known as Gate-Gate? (sorry couldn't resist the snarky pun)

[CorpGovActivist]

28. If It Has the BushCo. Seal of Approval...

... it has to be good, right?

- Dave

[Virginia Dare]

10. Yes, the Poppy cartel moves into CYA mode....

they saw this coming, they know the Democrats will start mass investigations into war profiteering and fraud. Gates is on the Baker Commission, he is one of Poppy's minions. It's no secret what's going on here.

[CorpGovActivist]

11. The Poppy Faction...

... had better start cutting deals, not covering. They're too late.

- Dave

[Virginia Dare]

13. Deals have been in the works for a few months now....

for at least as long as they've realized that the Dems were poised to take over. Look closely at the members of that commission, especially the Democratic members. Sacrificial lambs will be no doubt be offered up, it'll be interesting to see if the new leadership is going to play along.

[CorpGovActivist]

15. In the Age of the Internet...

... those sorts of deals are inadvisable.

- Dave

[Virginia Dare]

18. You could be right...

but Poppy is the master at leaving no paper trails.

[CorpGovActivist]

25. Unfortunately for Him...

... others who work for him are not "classically trained," so to speak.

- Dave

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

32. I hope you are right. There is an amnesty movement for BushCo here

I don't know how many threads have been started in the last two days with the OP that we should let bygones be bygones, not impeach Bush, etc.

I disagreed every time I saw one of them.

BushCo has committed numerous serious crimes since taking office. If the new congress doesn't investigate them, then that Congress is just as negligent as the republican congress has been.

This is especially true if some of the money BushCo has stolen can be recovered.

[CorpGovActivist]

33. Lives Literally Hang in the Balance: Asbestos Victims

Those who say, "Don't dig too deep," don't understand that they're condemning families to watch their loved ones die miserable deaths.

- Dave

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

34. Lives hang in the balance and our country slid very close to fascism

It is our duty to uncover all this crap so it doesn't happen again.

[CorpGovActivist]

36. Precisely...

... and for Jimmy Boy Baker to ride in on his whitewashed horse is just plain ridiculous.

- Dave

[hootinholler]

62. It's not so much they will watch the miserable death, but...

Becauase of the actions of the BFEE they will also be saddled with the burden of paying for the medical care.

I say dig deeper! Root it all out and punish the guilty whomever they are.

-Hoot

[KoKo]

35. The posts I've seen on not Impeaching have pointed out that impeachment

is too good for him or Cheney. Let the investigations proceed and uncover all of it. It will take the rest of the two years he has left to document it all and then we need to get Civil Suits against them when they leave. Impeachment solves nothing because Impeaching Nixon allowed a "pardon" and the rot and crime continued.

Impeachment is too good for them. That's what folks are saying. Better to go after the whole Crime Family and prosecute...even if it takes years...it needs to be cleaned out. Bush would just be a sacrificial lamb with Impeachment.

[Wiley50]

73. Wholeheartedly I

WHEN ALL THE SHIT THAT THE REPUKES HAVE BEEN SWEEPING UNDER THE RUG STARTS
COMING OUT AND HITTING THE FAN, THE PUBLIC WILL BE SCREAMING FOR IMPEACHMENT!

[Sgent]

84. Forget civil

when we win the whitehouse in '08, bring criminal charges.

Impeachment & removal is not needed to bring criminal charges if they are already out of office.

[CorpGovActivist]

86. EXCELLENT Point...

... this poster just hit their nightmare scenario.

If the Dems on the Hill pace the investigations correctly...

; )

- Dave

[AntiFascist]

129. But will they perform the necessary investigations?

or just sweep it under the rug as happened in Iran-Contra? My fear is that little will get done, or the pace will be too slow unless we the people start applying pressure.

[hootinholler]

95. Impeachment and removal are not needed to birng criminal charges.

They will simply remain in office while charged, the two things are independant of each other.

-Hoot

[Sgent]

109. Technically true

but I don't see Gonzolez filing criminal charges against sitting Bush appointee's.

[Jim Warren]

37. Righto

And the amnesty motive will be occluded by seeming concern of W's "legacy".

Of course, there's alaways Paraquay.

[DemonFighterLives]

16. You're headed for the greatest page #5

Everytime this turd rolls into town, something bad happens.
The poppy drug running cabal is in a hurry to cover up loose ends and move us along.
:dem:

[CorpGovActivist]

19. Baker = Officer Barbrady: "Nothing to see here, move along."

Well, I call, "Shenanigans!"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=barbrady+i+call+shenanigans

; )

- Dave

[conscious evolution]

43. Baker must think that

brooms are for sweeping things under the rug.
It looks like he is about to be shown another use for a broom.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shenanigans

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shenanigans

6. shenanigans 34 up, 16 down

An official declaration made by patrons of an establishment who feel they have been cheated. Once a charge of shenanigans has been accepted by an authority figure, said patrons are free to assault the owners of said establishment with brooms.

[CorpGovActivist]

47. LOL...Those South Park Guys...

... are sharp.

- Dave

[radfringe]

17. smacking my head - today's toon relates to the pending investigations

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2654994

[CorpGovActivist]

24. Thanks for Sharing That!

: )

- Dave

[Jim Warren]

21. The Fixer

Probably the most pertinent post/subject currently circulating the board and the evidence of which can be measured by the way the corp media validates this by inferring the adults are now in charge. Again.

[CorpGovActivist]

26. The Higher Jimmy Boy Baker's Profile Becomes...

... the giddier some in the know get.

- Dave

[Tuesday_Morning]

38. Good

Let him stand in the spotlight then.

[DoYouEverWonder]

130. Like the chimp said

bring 'em on.

You know when Uncle Jimmie comes out of his hidey hole, things must be really bad for him to take such a risk. He does not like the light of day shining on him too much.

[formercia]

23. I agree 100%

He answers to people way above Fearless Leader's pay grade.

[CorpGovActivist]

27. And He's Dancing into...

... the trap.

- Dave

[Senator]

39. Right ... Oh Good ... Another "GrownUp" with "Experience" ...

... in using thuggish threats, bribes, and covert violence to "make go away" whatever is currently threatening the delusion bubble of the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy.

Yep, that ought to do it.

--

[Octafish]

40. Jim Baker also represents the Saudi Roils vs. 911 Families.

Typical BFEE: Baker Botts makes money no matter who wins.

http://www.hereinreality.com/baker.html

[CorpGovActivist]

41. James Addison Baker III...

... looks a lot like the Clark Clifford of the GOP, to me.

; )

Halliburton/KBR is his BCCI.

- Dave

[Octafish]

44. BCCI snared pols of all stripes.

The bosses would open up "complimentary accounts" for pols.

Before the pols could say, "Thanks" or "No, thanks," BCCI would show them the money was in their name.

The technique was very effective in winning support in D.C. and around the world.

For a while, talk of a list floated around. That was never made public.

Too bad they all escaped justice.

They can't escape history or the Truth.

[conscious evolution]

46. Didn't they try to snare President Carter like that?

I seem to remember hearing about that years ago.It might have been during the investigations into Iran contra.

[CorpGovActivist]

50. And the Internet...

... is nice and mature now - a factor not quite present then.

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

42. P.S. Nice to Meetcha

I've had several people sing your praises in the lead-up to the election.

- Dave

[Octafish]

45. Thanks, CorpGovActivist.

Really appreciate the kind words.

Thank you for the real work you are doing getting the Truth out about Halliburton and the connections to the Bush Crime Family.

Please know you are not alone in the fight.

[CorpGovActivist]

51. I Know...

... as I've tried - very hard - to stress and emphasize, there are MANY doing good work in this arena.

- Dave

[robinlynne]

48. exactly!!!!!!!!!

[Patsy Stone]

49. A money-grubbing scumbag

Election stealer, Saudi defender, Robber Baron, a-hole.

[CorpGovActivist]

52. Exactly, But Just As Importantly...

... OMG, where did you get your avatar, sweetie, dahling?!?

LOL.

- Dave

[Patsy Stone]

54. Sweetie, darling...

I made it myself. Clinky!

[CorpGovActivist]

56. Oh, You and I...

... just became fast friends!

- Dave

[Patsy Stone]

58. Cheers!

and thanks, CGA.

Keep on fighting the good fight. :thumbsup:

[CorpGovActivist]

60. Just Remind Me...

... not to go on a trip to North Africa with you!

:rofl:

All kidding aside, cheers to you, too! This community has been a marvelous discovery.

- Dave

[Buttercup McToots]

93. Patsy!!

Where is Eddy?
Gosh I miss you gals...

[CorpGovActivist]

96. Not YOU Too?!?

It's an illness. It really is.

: )

- Dave

[Bridget Burke]

53. As they say in California, "Well, duh!"

This Houstonian would like to point out another star in Baker's crown. Remember last year's big blast at the BP refinery down in Texas City? Here's some PBS coverage:

GWEN IFILL: It was the worst industrial accident in this country in 15 years. The March 2005 explosion at BP's Texas City refinery killed 15 workers and injured 180 others. At least three investigations have been launched into the blast, which was triggered by a geyser-like release of flammable vapors onto refinery grounds.

In a report released Monday, the U.S. Chemical Safety Board, or CSB, said that cost-cutting at BP, the world's third-largest oil company, was a major factor in the deadly blast. "What BP experienced," Board Chairman Carolyn Merritt concluded, "was a perfect storm, where aging infrastructure, overzealous cost-cutting, inadequate design and risk-blindness, all converged."

In a written response, BP officials told the NewsHour it accepts responsibility for what the company says was a "preventable tragedy." BP, however, took issue with some of the board's conclusions, saying that its own investigation "did not identify previous budget decisions or lack of expenditure as a critical factor or immediate cause of the accident.".....

In addition to its internal investigation, BP, a NewsHour underwriter, said former Secretary of State James Baker will lead a separate probe, as well. The company, which has settled claims with all but one of the families of those killed in the blast, has set aside $1.6 billion to pay for compensation claims.

www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec06/bp_11-01.html

Yup, I'm sure Baker will get to the bottom of this story. He's stated that BP's longtime relationship with Baker/Botts won't affect the investigation at all.

[CorpGovActivist]

57. Baker Is the BOTTom of the Story

BakerBotts might as well have "Fuhgetaboutit" on their letterhead.

- Dave

[Blackhatjack]

55. It is not like Baker and Gates Do Not Have A Track Record --Go To Transcripts

These guys bob above and below the surface on a cyclical basis.

When Gates appears for his confirmation hearing, I certainly hope the members of the committee has his testimony under oath the last time he appeared seeking the DCIA when he was "less than forthcoming" and eventually had to withdraw from the nomination.

In re: Baker, he has a long long record of involvement in all manner of corruption and assisting in coverups. His role in Iran/Contra and other matters should make everyone question his credibility.

We need to show some backbone and refuse to confirm Gates. ANd we need to question all of Baker's conflicts of interest in making recommendations regarding the change in Iraq policy.

Hate to keep saying it, but if we follow the money we will get to the true motives for everything these two recommend.

[CorpGovActivist]

61. Blackhatjack's Greatest Hits

"Hate to keep saying it, but if we follow the money we will get to the true motives for everything these two recommend."

; )

- Dave

[Tatiana]

59. This is why criminals need to be PUNISHED.

They only come back to haunt us and commit even more crimes when we let them get off or go free.

[Karenina]

75. We've seen ample evidence of that.

[Vidar]

63. K&R.

[Rosie1223]

64. I have to admit when I read "BakerBotts" for the first time

I thought it was just a cute euphemism you'd named the cronies of James Baker (like BushBots). I got a real chuckle when I realized that's actually the name of his law firm.

[CorpGovActivist]

66. There May Be...

... a joke in there somewhere!

; )

- Dave

[theboss]

65. You realize he is the only one who can talk sense to W, right?

God knows that James Baker is a jagoff. But at least he's a realist jagoff with expertise and connections in an area that desperately needs realists. He has about a 100 times greater chance of changing W's mind on Iraq than anyone in our party does. And frankly, there's not a heck of a lot the Dems can do on Iraq if Bush wants to be hard-headed about it.

Bush has already wiped out the Republicans' electoral hopes. He doesn't have to worry about the next election since no one with any connection to him is going to run anyway. He can stick to his guns and stay the course in Iraq for two years if he wants to. And he can waste a lot of lives in the process.

Baker can at least get Bush to the table with some options.

[CorpGovActivist]

79. That's How It'll Be Positioned...

... that Baker is "too valuable" as a mediator, to investigate his role in the Halliburton matters.

That won't fly, with Baker documents coming out on a daily basis.

- Dave

[dpbrown]

67. Bush never makes a choice that is "cleaner" only "more corrupt"

Baker is the godfather.

[CorpGovActivist]

80. A Plea Bargain He Can't Refuse, Then...

... the prosecutors who've done so much heavy lifting are not likely to let their work go up in smoke.

Jimmy Boy Baker has done a heckuva job of exposing BushCo. Don't let his oily confidence fool ya. There's flop sweat underneath his pancake makeup.

- Dave

[dpbrown]

123. These are the people who escaped responsibility for Iran-Contra

I wonder if they don't have some backdoor already figured out. I'd like to see enough pressure applied to one or more of them at Baker's level to get them all. I am very leary of hoping for it, though.

Thank you deeply for all you are doing.

[CorpGovActivist]

126. Back Doors...

... barred and booby-trapped!

; )

They got away with it, pre-Internet.

- Dave

[Blackhatjack]

68. So What Does James Baker III have to do w/rumor Cheney is resigning?

I know Cheney and Rumsfeld were NeoCon buddies, and now Rumsfeld has been replaced with Poppa Bush's old hand Gates. Where does that leave CHeney? He has been laying low, no public comments. Is CHeney next in the the departure parade?

[DemReadingDU]

69. Too quiet today

Something must be going on.

[Blackhatjack]

70. Yep that is my take too....

Haven't heard from IDES either. Both of them missing in action is an indication something is up.

[conscious evolution]

72. I noticed that myself.

[Buttercup McToots]

76. Aye

Must watch their sites & threads...

[CorpGovActivist]

83. Mrs. Buttercup McToots!

As I live and breathe!!!

How be ye this fine Veterans Day?

- Dave

[Buttercup McToots]

88. David

There ye are, laddie...
Just emailed ye...we was worried...

[CorpGovActivist]

90. Nae, Nae...

... this town has some good people flooding back into it. I needed to spend some time and share some info.

Honestly, don't worry.

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

82. Too Quiet

"Haven't heard from IDES either. Both of them missing in action is an indication something is up."

Don't you worry about Ides.

; )

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

81. Next? Not Likely, But "Soon," Is My Guess...

... and he won't be picking his own replacement.

- Dave

[savemefromdumbya]

71. Bakers is not squeaky clean to say the least - see this

buried deep in a 1991 Washington Press piece -- that Secretary of State James Baker, after meeting with Iraqi Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz in October 1989, intervened personally to support U.S. government loan guarantees to Iraq."
Sources: Russ Baker: Columbia Journalism Review, March/April 1993: see http://www.cjr.org/year/93/2/iraqgate.asp
Robert Parry: "Iraqgate: Confession and Cover-up": FAIR, May/June 1995:

He's a good friend and business associate of fellow Texas oilman, former Director of the CIA and President, George Bush Sr. He is such a good ally that he volunteered to go to Florida as point man for the dubious vote recount that helped to install Jr. as President in the controversial and most debated election in U.S. history. Along with James A. Baker III, George Bush Sr. has a position as an "advisor" at the Carlyle Group whose membership included the Bin-Laden family <8> as recently as October 2001. <9> Carlyle's strategy has been in acquiring failing businesses and is the world's largest private equity firm. As one of the largest American military contractors they stand to make billions in profit on the war against terrorism <10> with its first battlefield in Afghanistan. It's also no secret that Afghanistan holds the key to the trillions of dollars worth of oil and natural gas reserves in the South Asia region. These Texas oilmen are everywhere, it seems.

It is also widely known that Enron and chief executive "Kenny Boy" Lay were George W. Bush's largest financial backers going as far back as his failed Congressional bid despite what Junior has recently falsely asserted. Lay even spent the night in the Lincoln Bedroom courtesy of Bush Sr. Enron was also a large contributor to Republican U.S. Senator Phil Gramm from Texas ($97,350 since 1989) whose wife, Wendy, as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) helped push exemption of Enron's futures trading contracts. Shortly after she provided the exemption that Enron wanted, she left her seat on the commission and was appointed to the Enron Board of Directors subsequently receiving as much as $1.85 Million from the corporation. <11> The financial manipulation scam works nicely when there are insiders placed in the right government positions

http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/enron-oped_mar02.shtml
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/feature/2003/08/21/conason_four/index.html

[CorpGovActivist]

85. They'll Say, "Ancient History," and We'll Say...

... "no, it's just one of the pearls in the string of predicate acts that means James Addison Baker III has engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity, Your Honor."

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_95.html

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_96.html

They'll scream, "executive privilege covers his acts as Secretary of State," and we'll say, "that privilege doesn't extend to his work in private practice at BakerBotts, Your Honor."

- Dave

[savemefromdumbya]

114. BAKERBOTTS

not many people know that

[GeorgeGist]

74. Consigliere to the rescue;

is the Democratic 'leadership' smart enough to say 'NOT THIS TIME'?

[CorpGovActivist]

87. They Don't Have a Choice...

... this is a pluralistic society. They can either take the ball and run with it, or find that the playing field changes.

- Dave

[Jacobin]

77. Baker is not a neo-con

He knows IraqNam is fucked up and will never be a U.S. colony the way the PNACers wanted it to be.

I'll be devils advocate (literally, in this case) and suggest that he may be able to forget this 'victory in Iraq' dream of the neo-cons and have some practical way of extricating the US from this disaster.

Make no mistake. Its going to be an awful situation regardless of who does it, but I'm thinking he'll take the heat for it.

Shrub's signature fuckup for the ages is IraqNam and Poppy has hired the consigliere to undo it. One thing James Baker is NOT, and that is a "make your own reality foreign policy dreamer"

[CorpGovActivist]

89. Baker Can Make Those Calls to Middle East Leaders...

... as part of his work release program, sponsored by the BOP:

http://www.bop.gov

- Dave

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

78. My favorite pic of Baker/gwb, taken at meeting Dec. 2003. Body language.

MKJ

[CorpGovActivist]

92. Stand Up Straight, and Don't Talk with Your Mouth Full...

... of lies to the American people.

- Dave

[BootinUp]

94. This is a little silly

He is part of a bipartisan effort to recommend a different strategy, he is not a neocon. Its worth seeing what they come up with. Baker is not a policy maker at this point.

[CorpGovActivist]

97. If You Don't "Get" Who Baker Is...

... and what he has done, I can suggest some reading.

But don't buy into the marketing image of Baker.

- Dave

[BootinUp]

98. and I didn't think you could out do the OP.

:eyes:

[Subdivisions]

107. So, what do you know that is relevant to the discussion?

[BootinUp]

110. Are you afraid of an idea?

that is the only thing relevant to this thread OP. I for one am not.

Baker has more experience in foreign affairs than many others in DC, he opposed this war if you weren't aware. I want to see what he comes up with.

[Subdivisions]

111. No, I'm not. In fact, I am also looking forward to seeing what he

comes up with. But even if he comes up with a genious solution that satisfies all parties, it still won't be enough to change the fact that he is a crook, as the OP suggests.

The point of my question was to elicit a response in the hopes that, as the OP has done in extensive commentary, disscussion, position and sources, YOU could provide the information you have that adds to this discussion something more than "This is silly" and "I want to see what he comes up with."

[BootinUp]

115. sometimes

I am a little short in the verbalizing area. Its all in there I just don't get it all out. k?

Baker has no doubt stepped over the line of integrity with regard to domestic politics, I don't know if I would go as far as to call him a crook. Does he have conflicts of interest? Probably, but then that is pretty common with people as high up in the circles of power as he has been. It sort of comes with the job. He is not a policy maker anymore, he is only functioning as an advisor. So it is not his decision what to do, hence the conflicts are somewhat minimized, about as much as possible in his case.

But in general I would rather the country return to bipartisan foreign policy. Its much healthier than what we have had the last six years. Still imperfect though.

[Subdivisions]

118. Thanks :), I have a better idea of where you're coming from now.

I just happen to fundamentally disagree with you. I feel that you can almost put money on it that whatever he and the Baker Study Group comes up with, it will ultimately be self-serving.

[DoYouEverWonder]

131. Anyone who is willing to represent the Saudis

instead of the victims of 9-11 is a traitor.

[theboss]

99. I know exactly who Baker is

And I far prefer his brand of Republican cronyism combined with realistic statescraft over the neo-cons brand of "out and out corruption combined with revolutionary fervor."

[grasswire]

103. are you kidding me?

Wow. I didn't realize that so many people were so naive about Baker. I think the word is "stagecraft."

[stepnw1f]

105. Not Naive.....

the poster likes his kind. Says it all for me...

[theboss]

117. I don't like Baker, but what are our options here?

George Bush is still president. He's not going away for a while. If the choice is Baker or Cheney calling the shots over there, I choose Baker.

It's not like Olympia Snowe is going to become part of the inner circle.

[Subdivisions]

108. Self delete - not worth it.

[Blackhatjack]

100. One Event You Will Never See --Baker Voluntarily Under Oath Answering Qs

Baker has been the 'hit man' behind the scenes, knows way too much about everyone, and has powerful relationships and an agenda that has brought him great wealth, power and an unbreakable loyalty to the Bush family.

Sometimes the "family" has to do some housecleaning, and when Baker arrives on the scene we can expect to see the results of that.

Rummy's departure is evidence of that. Cambone resigning is also. Eventually Cheney's huge problems will be 'managed' as well.

But Baker will never take an 'official' position which opens him up to free-ranging questioning like a confirmation hearing before a Democratically controlled committee would.

[Buttercup McToots]

101. Hoots BlackHatJack

Whats cookin`?
:evilgrin:

[Blackhatjack]

104. Baker is the 'cleaner' for the Bush Family....

.... he is acting behind the scenes, never as an 'official' who would have to answer under oath. He appeared in Florida as counsel and therefore could not be called as a witness. Likely that is as far as he will ever hold a public position.

However, he is busy making changes behind the scenes. He is part of Poppa Bush's damage control team which is trying to rescue not only GWB but the Bush family name(and disclosure of far worse Bush family evidence of corruption and crimes which have been suppressed so far).

[Buttercup McToots]

112. I said this b/4

somewhere...but I do get the
feelin` something is afoot...
The pieces on this chessboard
are being moved...
Why infuriate fellow repubs
by firing DR the day after...?

My physic sense says that something
is in play here...
The Dems must be verry verry careful...
Dont ye think BlackHatJack?
:eyes:

[conscious evolution]

116. I agree

Something is up.
Could someone be opening their powder kegs?

[grasswire]

102. remember what Poppy said to Sarah McClendon years ago

He said (to this reporter McClendon): "If the people knew what we've done, they would chase us down the street and hang us."

[Blackhatjack]

106. LINK?? I want to put that one in my 'emergency relief file" LOL

[grasswire]

119. you can google a lot of references to it

McClendon is dead. She was the oldest White House Correspondent until her death a couple of years ago. A tough Texas reporter, she interviewed G.H.W. Bush in 1992 and published the quote in her newsletter in June 1992. There's no direct link to her newsletter, as it is not on the Internet. But there are many, many references to her quote.

[Blackhatjack]

120. Thanks for the background...n/t

[Swamp Rat]

113. Baker is a Trojan Lizard

You are right. Baker is part of the problem and is a very dangerous person.

[Blackhatjack]

121. Why would anyone expect Baker to act impartially? He never has before...

... he is one of the most biased individuals I ever observed. Check his employment with THe Carlyle Group and ties to Bush money men, and you find what motivates him. THis is merely a clean up operation for his friend 41, and an opportunity to make more money for the BFEE and himself.

[Buttercup McToots]

122. Bump...up

:)

[Karenina]

124. Just so everyone KNOWS...

:kick:

[Buttercup McToots]

125. Thank ye

:)

[Buttercup McToots]

127. Good Saturday mornin`

:)

[Buttercup McToots]

128. Good Monday Mornin`

:)

[DoYouEverWonder]

132. According to the Washington Post

The Iraq Group is made up of prestigious Americans.

Nice how they frame this hostile take over by Poppy Bush's Iran-Contra buddies.