Allen will NOT concede, says CNN.

[Sparkly]

Is this true?

[Mr_Spock]

1. Huh?

Why the conflicting stories here?

[Sparkly]

2. I dunno!!

They called it a "cliffhanger," then said we'd be hearing from Allen who "will NOT concede." :shrug:

[porphyrian]

3. I don't think it matters at this point.

If the numbers are outside of a certain margin, he's considered defeated, whether he accepts it or not.

[Sparkly]

5. Is the margin close enough for a state-funded recount?

I thought it was...

[porphyrian]

8. I don't know. Last I heard it wasn't, but that was earlier. - n/t

[MADem]

4. Who knows? What's the vote count? If it's enough of a spread that Allen has to pay for it himself

he'll probably concede. If it is small enough that the taxpayers of VA will have to shell out hundreds of thousands for it, he won't.

[Clovis Sangrail]

9. meh... probably won't cost too much

Virginia is 2/3 DRE... no paper trail, nothing to recount

I sort of hope it DOES go to a recount just to get everybody pissed that there's for that 2/3 there's NOTHING TO recount.

[MADem]

24. A hundred and fifty grand, but the taxpayers will foot the bill, so Allen doesn't care

Virginia law allows for a recount if a candidate is defeated by less than 1 percentage point. Three-tenths of 1 percent separate Allen and Webb, according to the State Board of Elections.

The state pays for the recount if the losing margin is less than one-half of 1 percent. Otherwise the candidate foots the bill.

State law was changed to require that the state pay for certain recounts after the 1978 U.S. Senate election in which Republican John W. Warner beat Democrat Andrew P. Miller by about 4,000 votes.

Until that time, candidates had to pay for recounts. Miller did not have the money to do so.

Jean R. Jensen, secretary of the state electoral board, estimated the cost of a recount this year at $150,000. http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149191595024&path=!news&s=1045855934842

[AlCzervik]

6. wait until he talks at 3, he may just have decided to make us all wait

and suffer and then he'll concede.

[Sparkly]

13. I can't find anything on the news sites about his 3pm appearance...

Wonder what's going on?

On edit: WP still has it -- saying he "may" concede:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/09/AR2006110900775.html

Reuters, too:
http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2006-11-09T164026Z_01_WAT006556_RTRIDST_0_USA-ELECTIONS-VIRGINIA-ALLEN-URGENT.XML

Is the canvass completed?

[Individualist]

Conservative News Network thinks if they lie

often enough, people will begin to believe them. No way in hell that will work this time. They're (CNN) simply in denial.

[trotsky]

7. Fine with me.

Either way, we win. Waaaaallen wants to drag this out? He'll only make himself and the Republican party look worse.

[gerrilea]

10. I thought I just heard on CNN that the vote count difference was now only

300 and something...did I here this right?

Where can we get links or the actual "current" count...?

[Va Lefty]

12. Here is link to Virginia State Board of Elections

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

[Hubert Flottz]

21. Looks like Webb leads by 8888 votes as of 12:30 pm

[ShortnFiery]

18. No! With all areas reporting in - Web's ahead by 8888. :-)

I believe that Allen will concede - but not graciously. ;)

J H Webb Jr Democratic 1,174,503 49.59%
G F Allen Republican 1,165,615 49.21%
G G Parker Independent Green 26,137 1.10%
Write Ins 2,374 0.10%
View Results by District Locality Total: 2,368,629

[Sparkly]

19. Is all canvassing completed?

Last I saw, about half were.

[ShortnFiery]

20. That's a good point, 100% precincts reporting, but you're right.

I'll go back and edit my post so as to not cause confusion. Thanks. :hi:

[chelsea0011]

11. So much for the "going out like a statesmen" crap.

What was CNN selling with the statesmen and future career stuff? Macaccawitz is dead as a pol.

[WI_DEM]

14. ok, don't and do a recount, and we'll just verify our win.

[FyurFly]

15. I work in Old Town Alexandria

and there is news trucks everywhere at Market Sq. Is Webb speaking here today?

[Sparkly]

16. I did see that it'll be in Alexandria.... nt

[flyarm]

26. MSNBC SAID ALLEN WILL BE HAVING PRESS CONF 3PM..THEN

WEBB WILL HAVE A PRESS CONF..BUT THAT WEBB WAS ALSO HAVING A RALLY THIS AFTERNOON FOR ALL HIS WORKERS AND VOLUNTEERS!

FLY

[gasperc]

17. he might believe he can be the GOP's savior, keeping the Senate

but, being that he is dumber than a box of rocks, this will backfire once all the GOP's shenanigans are exposed. be thankful he suffers from an extreme form of stupidedness

[wiggs]

22. IMO this has to do with keeping the fate of the Senate more uncertain so

that the next two months, when the WH pushes agenda, look more like business as usual as opposed to rushing through actions.

[Brazenly Liberal]

23. MSNBC says he IS conceding:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15635543/from/ET/

WASHINGTON - Sen. George Allen will concede the Virginia race to Democrat Jim Webb when he addresses supporters Thursday afternoon, a source within the Allen camp told the National Journal.

The Journal, a MSNBC.com content partner, said the source was someone close to the Republican incumbent.

In a rout once considered almost inconceivable, Democrats have now won control of the Senate and thus both Houses of Congress after 12 years of near-domination by the Republican Party.

A count by The Associated Press showed Webb with 1,172,538 votes and Allen with 1,165,302, a difference of 7,236.

[BlackVelvet04]

25. Webb has actually picked up quite a few votes....

he was about 7200 ahead and now it's 8889.

[Sparkly]

27. Now CNN is saying it may be decided today....?

When I posted this, they said, "He will not -- NOT -- concede." If they're backing off of that, they should make a clear correction.