Jesus Camp Closes: "Right now, we're just not a safe ministry"

[BurtWorm]

From Richard Dawkins's blog:

http://richarddawkins.net/article,294,n,n


Closed
by Toronto Daily News

Reposted from:
http://www.torontodailynews.com/index.php/WorldNews/2006110814Kids-Camp

The documentary about summer camp where children would tearfully beg God to end abortion and bless President Bush prompted to close the camp.

The summer camp "Kids on Fire" where children would tearfully beg God to end abortion and bless President Bush, will shut down for at least several years after a documentary about the camp.

The film, showing young evangelical children steeling themselves for spiritual and political warfare, includes scenes with pastor Ted Haggard, the evangelical leader accused of gay sex and drug use.

In one scene, Haggard tells the audience, "We don't have to debate about what we should think about homosexual activity. It's written in the Bible."

Titled "Jesus Camp," the documentary sparked a negative reaction, said the camp's director.

"Right now we're just not a safe ministry," Becky Fischer, the fiery Pentecostal pastor featured in "Jesus Camp," said Tuesday.

The pastor, who has been accused of "brainwashing" the children, said she's shutting down the camp for at least several years.

Up to 100 children visited the camp each year.

[gully]

1. Another victory in the greater moral war.

; )

[Downtown Hound]

2. Good riddance

America's Taliban training camps.

[Mabus]

3. One less fanatical American madrasah brainwashing American youth

:applause:

Of course, now these parents will just brainwash the kids at home until another fanatical American madrasah opens to replace this one.

[girl gone mad]

4. Investigate her for child abuse.

That's what it is.

[BurtWorm]

12. You mean that's why she doesn't feel "safe?"

Because the law is after her? (Probably for tax evasion, too!)

:patriot:

[twilight_sailing]

5. safe?

What the hell does that mean?

[Kerrytravelers]

8. I was wondering the same thing.

It's a church camp- a crazy church camp- but a church camp, not Gitmo... or so we thought.

[Mist]

10. I interpreted it as "not safe from the exposure of our lunacy." nt

[Reverend_Smitty]

6. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:rofl:

[Matariki]

7. DAMN! Can this week get any better?!!

[bkcc]

14. No kidding.

It's like the pendulum swung back on everything that's gone wrong for the past 5-6 years.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

[Zodiak]

22. It would take an army of pendula to swing

to undo what these scummy Repukes have done, but this week has been a nice turnaround in some key areas.

There is much, much more to do. The pukes are just dismantling the more egregious stuff pre-emptively.

This is the time to shine some lights on some more cockroaches just to see how many we can get to scurry out of self-preservation. K-street would be a good place to start, and the american people would appreciate it.

[RobertSeattle]

31. Only if K. Harris and K Blackwell decide to TELL ALL

:evilgrin:

[BootinUp]

9. Hard to believe. They must be planning to go underground.

THese kind of people do not yield like that.

[Kerrytravelers]

15. I hope it's a deep hold underground their planning on going into.

One that will take forever to climb out of.

[Raffi Ella]

11. Hallelujah!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[apnu]

13. more at Seattle Times link

Sourced in the Toronto Daily News link

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003365311_jesuscamp08.html

[SouthernBelle82]

16. I wonder if that is the real reason

due to the whole Ted Haggard thing. I've found often that these type of people can lie so easily even though lying is supposed to be a sin even according to Jesus. :shrug: They would rather save their reputation than tell the truth.

[apnu]

26. the seattle times source says

its because of hate mail and grafitti at the camp itself.

I think its because of the movie showing people who these loons really are, and Haggard combined together to make a very 'unsafe' enviorment for the camp.

[undeterred]

17. They're undergoing persecution.

I thought they liked that sort of thing.

[Ian_rd]

18. One of our very own madrasahs is closing?

I weep today. How ever will we fight islamic extremism if we don't have our own extremists?

[elehhhhna]

19. Ted Hag must think the bible, like the constitution, is

"just a goddamned piece of paper".

[deadparrot]

20. "Right now"? No, you were never a "safe" ministry.

Preaching that kind of hate to kids is extremely dangerous.

[K8-EEE]

21. War-mongering Child Abusers

Another victory for the "S-P's," aka, the good guys.

[progressoid]

23. Safe? Safe from what...intelligence?

Or perhaps that crazy woman thinks we are a threat? People that actually think from time to time.

More, likely, she thinks Atheists or Muslims are coming after her. Good grief.

[zbdent]

24. hmm ... sniff sniff ... is that the smell of

the FEC investigations in the air? ...

[apnu]

27. god call (eom)

[Rocknrule]

25. This week just keeps getting better and better

[proud patriot]

28. These people need to be watched very closely

I don't trust that they won't just re name and re
package the whole cult somewhere else .

[NNN0LHI]

42. Thats exactly what Jim Jones did until the end n/t

[Roy]

29. Translations

Now that Dems are in control of congress, we cannot expect taxpayer funding.

[uppityperson]

30. I thought "Jesus Camp" was a joke, a parody fakumentary. It's real?

Seriously, I have not bothered to follow any of the Jesus Camp stuff because I thought it was not real, and it is? And before anyone scolds me, there are other things I follow, just not this (abortion stuff for instance). I truly thought the movie was a fake documentary about an outrageous camp, and it's real? Call me shocked. Wow. What does "not safe" mean? Too funny.

[Az_lefty]

32. It's real...those involved should be investigated for child abuse...

maybe that's why their shutting down for several years.

[Norquist Nemesis]

36. It's absolutely for real! The worst thing is even if it is shutting down

the seeds have already been sown for hundreds of children. Somehow, I doubt they'll be de-programmed. Within a short amount of time, Jesus Camp will all be forgotten. And those kids that went through it, well... :scared:

[SoCalDem]

33. In other words, people now know what they are doing

Sunshine is the prefect disinfectant:)

[izzybeans]

34. How soon do you think this film will be on DVD?

[Javaman]

35. "said she's shutting down the camp for at least several years."

or going underground in an out of the way mountain retreat. Some how I don't really believe someone who has the massive ego as this woman would just "shut things down".

She will pop up again in a couple of years.

[Norquist Nemesis]

37. As soon as those they've already trained get into positions

of power and influence, it will be back.

[BurtWorm]

39. Maybe shutting down until Repubs retake the Congress

and enact the Dominion.

[Turn CO Blue]

38. Shut all the Pentecostal camps down. I'm sure some are worse.

The one I attended at 9 years old in Texarkana (or somesuch) was bad. They kept a record of whether each kid blabbed off in tongues or was "annointed with the Spirit" by fainting to the floor before the end of the week.

[DarkTirade]

40. Yes, the bible's views on homosexuality are written in there...

just like its views on wearing clothing of more than one kind of thread. Or cutting your hair and shaving your beard. They're all 'abominations'. Funny how you pick just ONE and stick with it.

[Swamp Rat]

41. Good, but they will come back with a vengeance.

Boy Scout Motto: "Be Prepared!"

[Megahurtz]

43. They're all Freaking Out!

We're going to see more of them drop like flies day by day.

[Canuckistanian]

44. Safe? Not this crap again

Whenever they're criticized, they immediately go into the "poor persecuted victim" mode.

Newsflash, guys! You're extremists! People don't generally like extremists whatever their political stripes!

[youthere]

45. Dammit! I was going to send my kids there this summer...NOT.

[NMMNG]

46. "Right now we're just not a safe ministry,"

Like those whackjobs ever were. :eyes:

[Toots]

47. One more terrorist training camp closed temporarily

Thank the Lord...