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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:37 PM
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Dean's Strategy Won the Day: Independents and Rural Voters Gave Dems the Victory
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 01:48 PM by JCMach1
Urban and Rural voters vote for Democrats with the same %. Only the Suburbs went Repug (barely).
Repugs and Dems were overwhelmingly polarized (little Crossover; Republicans gave their candidates 93%; Dems gave theirs 95%). However, we won among Independents 55-38%

Dean's 50 state strategy seems to have won the day. Obviously, he didn't do it single-handedly. However, he was the architect of our brilliant victory.

Hats off to Dr. Dean... :party:

I would love him for Pres. one day, but I would hate to lose the best party leader in a long time.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/Default.aspx?ci=25399&VERSION=p







There is a general discussion of the Gallup poll here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2950530
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:41 PM
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1. Hmm. Big turnouts by urban Democrats didn't hurt either, particularly in Senate
races (Maryland for one), so I would not be tooting on this too much.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:44 PM
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3. Absolutely, but we won the STICKS by the SAME AMOUNT!
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 01:44 PM by JCMach1
We haven't done that in like FOREVER...
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:55 PM
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9. I don't think so. Maryland returns on Steele - Cardin by jurisdiction.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/11/08/GR2006110800340.html

Cardin did not win a single rural county in Maryland, unless you call Charles and Baltimore Counties rural. I wouldn't.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:57 PM
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11. Gallup was a national poll... just giving the reported #'s
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:08 PM
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17. Point taken. But still it took a lot more urban Democrats to get the victory
so we should not be attributing the victory to rural voters, particularly for the Senate.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:13 AM
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25. Cough.... Montana.... Cough
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:42 PM
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2. I agree
What got me started doing grass roots campaigning was an email from Howard Dean. He mobilized the forces early, because we had a lot of work to do, and we worked hard. No state should ever be overlooked.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:44 PM
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4. My theory had been
with the 50 state plan we might just win in places where they COULDN'T steal elections-it was like a hole in the dike that kept getting bigger and bigger-too many holes-not enough fingers to plug them.He was right.They probably fixed Florida and maybe some in Ohio but they couldn't do them all
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:45 PM
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5. Dude, we were +2 and maybe had a 3rd stolen in FL
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 01:46 PM by JCMach1
that's pretty damn good for a heavily gerrymandered state.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:49 PM
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6. Yea I want that Harris seat
how sweet would that be after what she did to us Floridians in 2000-I want election reform done on the national level so the republican run state can NOT steal elections-ever again
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:50 PM
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7. Exactly... I want the State I grew up in back...
I still vote there though I am an EXPAT.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:54 PM
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8. we haven't let our kids
in any public schools ever since Jeb got in-home schooled-it's like a prison system in there now-the schools that is
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:57 PM
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10. I taught in the Public Schools before I took my current job
in the UAE. FCAT was a big part of the decision to uproot my young girls.

My girls now get a good British curriculum which includes 2 foreign languages (Arabic and French) starting in Elementary.

They even still take field trips for FUN over here! Imagine that! They also still have recess.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:58 PM
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12. No, EVERYBODY did it together.
Let's stop giving individuals all the credit.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:01 PM
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14. No, Repigs stayed with *
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:10 PM
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19. That's not how the media is spinning it...
Besides, I wasn't referring to them specifically (assuming some of them did vote Democratic), I was referring to everyone who voted Democrat.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:03 AM
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23. It may be true that lots of folks deserve credit
but this was the guv's win. Without the 50 state strategy, we wouldn't have had the candidates or infrastructure to take advantage of the repuke scandals and the disgust over repuke policies. It's that simple, and the guv deserves all the praise he gets- and more.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:59 PM
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13. Also young and Latino voters
A Time reporter (I think) said the Repukes just turned the Latin population as firmly Dem as blacks for at least a decade. Unless we blow it and fall for the kick em all out solution.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:03 PM
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15. 66% of the 'non-white' vote according to the poll
that's lumping everyone together... But yes, Hispanics came to our camp in a big way.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:06 PM
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16. He mentioned this when he was running for president.
He said that the Democrats had to reach outside their solid strongholds. Terry McAuliffe was chair so he may have well have been talking to himself. WesPac (Wes Clark's PAC) and Keeping America's Promise (John Kerry's PAC) absolutely got on board with Dean as soon as he became chair. Act Blue and other new grassroots orgs did too. Eventually they brought along the establishment DSCC and DCCC. Dean was the catalyst he was right. He is a great party chair. We would have never won like this with the old McCauliffe guard.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:09 PM
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18. Hmmm, here my favorite Dem made the biggest gains in
urban areas. 2-3 times the increase in the rural part of the district. Still lost, but closed the gap for next cycle.

'Course, this is Texas . . .
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:39 AM
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22. Still a very good showing...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 03:20 PM
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20. Cannot be said enough. Go Dean go!
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 06:20 PM
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21. Good Gallop article. And they aren't charging $$ to see it.
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Avalon Sparks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:08 AM
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24. Big thanks to Howard Dean!!
He's one of our shining starts in my opinion... we need more Dems like him around.

He wasn't afraid to give the Repubs back as good as they gave.

Smart man and great job!
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