DUers look sillier and sillier to me compared to Rahm Emanuel.

[LoZoccolo]

No, I'm not talking about all DUers. I'm talking about stuff like people "deciding" whether or not to impeach when it's not their decision to make. For crying out loud, you're in your computer den right now, and you are probably not going to leave for the rest of the night. You will be back tomorrow and do the same.

On the other hand, Rahm Emanuel (my representative and he's cool) takes the dice! He's out there all slick, winning elections for the reps, and basically smoking up the political scene all across the nation!

Please do something and get involved in real politics with your local Democratic party. I have two links that you can usually see in my signature for getting involved, but now that that feature is off I'll just post them here:

http://www.illinoisdemnet.org
http://dnc.meetup.com

Getting involved and having to do some real work and think about how you'll solve some real problems will help ground you in reality, and actually make you feel more like you can make a difference. You'll know a lot more about how to get what you want: what works, and what doesn't.

[kenny blankenship]

1. Nobody's keeping you here

[LoZoccolo]

6. My point exactly! n/t

[readmoreoften]

17. See ya, then!/nt

[LoZoccolo]

21. Maybe I should change my DU name to "domoreoften". n/t

[readmoreoften]

32. Go ahead! See what Skinner says! Best of luck to you!

Attacks on progressive dems aren't going to be as easy as they used to be!

[swag]

2. People have computer dens?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. Don't you?

I have a veritable computer lair, in which I lurk for hours, thinking up ways to criticize Rahm Emanuel and not doing stuff for the Democrats. :sarcasm:

[fooj]

Rahm doesn't need OUR praise...

He's drowning in his own self adulation. :blush:

[lapfog_1]

27. Man you should SEE my computer cave,,, full of big screens,

desktops, laptops, servers... all just waiting for me to command them to think of ways to insult Rahm.

And the TUBES... lots and lots of TUBES.

:sarcasm:

on a serious note... you know, a *lot* of us here donate time and money to the Democratic Party. So yeah, if we cry out for justice and fairness once in a while, it's OK by me.

[DainBramaged]

3. These are the folks blinded by pure hate

You're so right. Maybe they need to redirect Their energy to HELPING the process.


WHY DO THEY HATE AMERICA SO MUCH?

[Laelth]

4. Insulting what we do ...

... is probably not useful.

:dem:

-Laelth

[LoZoccolo]

5. Footnote: S. R. Sidarth got involved, and his work won us the Senate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2949161&mesg_id=2949161

Even one volunteer can make a difference.

[greenman3610]

7. wise words

on the other hand, let's not beat ourselves up with
caricatures of people in pajamas at their keyboards.

The blogosphere, the internet, and the constant
agitation of people like DU ers and Kossacks
has been absolutely essential to keeping the
media's feet to the fire, informing and
organizing the base that won this election.

[xiamiam]

8. thats crap..i think everyone here is here to get info...then we do our work

armed with accurate linked information, facts and opinions that fly across these pages faster than any site ive found on the internet...

[LoZoccolo]

14. Banging your heads against the wall and fighting over someone else's decision...

...is not "getting info". I think this place is great for getting information. But that's not what a lot of people are spending most of their time doing.

[Laelth]

24. I was of the opinion that elected Democrats ...

... were supposed to represent us. Yes, they make the final decision about how to vote on a given measure because we live in a republic, but DU is one way that we let them know what we want, so that they can represent us. We can boot them if they don't. Remind them of that, would you?

Thanks!

:patriot:

-Laelth

[LoZoccolo]

26. So go write a compelling letter to them about what you want.

Maybe get some other people to do it too. After that, why haggle over it here?

[Laelth]

65. I almost certainly will write just such a letter.

But, you see, this is where public opinion in a particular wing of the Democratic party is shaped. This is where we fight media spin. This is how we do it. This is where we refine our arguments, so that when we present them to our elected representatives, we can have them polished and effective.

In other words, this is a useful exercise. I'm sorry that you can't see that.

-Laelth

[xiamiam]

25. well, you dont have to give attention to that ...or anything from which you dont learn..

[LoZoccolo]

28. I think I know, I mean, ah yes, but it's all wrong. That is, I think I disagree. n/t

[fooj]

9. What would be really refreshing is to hear Rahm

share in the glory with Howard Dean. Rahm seems all too eager to soak up the congrats while omitting the FACT that HE wasn't the sole reason the Dems won. I've never once heard him give ANY credit to Dean. Doesn't that seem a bit odd to you? Enough, already.

[Horse with no Name]

33. Aint that the fucking truth

What's with all the Emanuel-fellating today?
It was Dean's victory too and it is getting pretty disgusting to watch the DLC'ers attempting to push everyone else out of the limelight.

[fooj]

50. Rahm doesn't need our praise...

He's drowning in his own self-adulation. :blush:

[GreenArrow]

52. not just on DU

but throughout corporate media as well. It's all part of the script, the same script that kept an anti-war plank from appearing on the platform at the National Convention 2 years ago, even though 90 some percent of the delegates there wanted one.

[readmoreoften]

11. Yeah, but we've always looked silly to you. /nt

[OzarkDem]

12. Most people here are involved

in their local party or other political organizations. Marginalizing them doesn't help you make your point.

[LoZoccolo]

18. Noooooooo.

Unh-uh. People post threads about "hey, what are you doing, share with us" before the election and they sink like rocks.

[OzarkDem]

46. So?

That proves nothing, its not very scientific. I don't respond to every question thread, either. Some people don't like to give out personal information about themselves online.

If you want to know, though, I donated about $2,000 to various Dem candidates this election cycle and I'm on a number of Dem committees in my area as well as an officer in my local party. I'm also a past member of the DLC.

[LoZoccolo]

55. That's pretty slick.

I should give you a can of this slickness spray I have. Rahm Emanuel gave me a whole case to go spraying all over the blogosphere netroots tonight.

[OzarkDem]

63. Sure, I'll take a can

I like Rahm, he's a smart guy who has accomplished a lot for the party.

[leftofthedial]

13. why are you posting here then

"slick"?

[LoZoccolo]

15. Cuz I'm the slickest of the slick.

Pointing the way to slickness. I'm a whole big oil spill on the blogosphere scene.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

30. oil spills kill

just sayin...

[leftofthedial]

38. that's pretty doggone slick!

;-) :thumbsup:

[theoldman]

16. I agree, we should not impeach Bush. We should charge him

with crimes and put him in prison. There is a big difference between a blow job and the death of one innocent person. BTW, how about the deaths of 600,000 innocent people.

[Cooley Hurd]

19. And after all....

...you're my wonderwall!

There are some running jokes that just won't simply die!:hi:

[BootinUp]

20. I approve this message. n/t

[peacebird]

22. i phone banked, i wrote letters to the editor, i have my congresscritters numbers in my phone

and call them - often.

i marched in NYC and in DC many times before the war and since it started...

i am home in my kitchen having a beer and reading DU - and yes - i WILL be back here tomorrow night.

and there is nothing wrong with that.

[undeterred]

23. Maybe you belong on the Rahm Emanuel messageboard then

:nopity: where people are not so silly :hurts:

[Poll_Blind]

29. Traslation: "Shut the hell up, you're nobodies." Cute. n/t

PB

[LoZoccolo]

35. I go into the "you can be somebody" part as well. n/t

[Blackthorn]

31. I don't see how having this guy as a Rep

gives you any kind of authority to lecture people on what they should do with their time.

"Getting involved and having to do some real work and think about how you'll solve some real problems will help ground you in reality, and actually make you feel more like you can make a difference. You'll know a lot more about how to get what you want: what works, and what doesn't."

This is the most condescending claptrap I've read today. It's insulting to the thousands of people here who already contribute, and the thousands of people who simply do not have the time or resources to contribute. And who are you to judge if people simply don't want to. Activism is a choice.

[LoZoccolo]

37. Rays of slickness rub off on you when you meet him.

He's that slick.

And who are you to judge if people simply don't want to.

I'm Rahm Emanuel's constituent, that's who!

[GreenArrow]

56. some say slick,

some say slime.

[LoZoccolo]

64. Hey!

That's not a nice thing to say about a man who's not afraid of ballet.

[SoFlaJet]

34. I've been here almost since the beginning

under a couple of different scree names and I feel I've done my part-keeping myself and others informed and telling other people about this place and what I learn here.I came here when I wasn't allowed to vote in 2000 and nobody would listen.Outed Rush Limbaugh as a fat junkie when only me and a couple of others knew about it.I bled and cried here when Paul Wellstone's plane went down.Now I get to share the hope that this election brings to my heart and my children and grandchildren-we do what we can-some more than others.

[William769]

36. I agree with what you say, but...

Your beating your head against the wall with some people here.

[BootinUp]

40. You forgot the visual. allow me...

:banghead:

[William769]

42. Thank you.

[happydreams]

39. Meanwhile your on a computer telling people their "silly" for sitting

at a computer. :eyes: :crazy:

[LoZoccolo]

41. I'm stealing time from my corporatist employer!

Stick it to the man!

[stepnw1f]

43. He's out there all slick, winning elections

DLCer trying to claim victory... I knew this would happen. You DLCers are shitting aren't ya.... you should.

[LoZoccolo]

45. Yes, I'm shitting.

I hope you are too! You save $5 on your doctor bill every time you do it.

[stepnw1f]

54. The Shit Spewed forth is from Your Mouth

That's because you are an ass.... republican light one. Good job in sucking up to the GOP. Bravo... now go away. We don't need your type... notice?

"In private talks before the election, Emanuel and other top Democrats told their members they cannot allow the party's liberal wing to dominate the agenda next year. Democrats will hold 30 or 35 seats that went for Bush in the past, meaning that Democratic candidates such as Brad Ellsworth in rural Indiana are likely to face competitive races again in 2008. Still, their interests are likely to collide with those of veteran liberals such as Reps. Henry A. Waxman (Calif.) and John Conyers Jr., (Mich.), who will chair committees.

With that in mind, there is a chance the 110th Congress could begin on a bipartisan note. Democrats have vowed to move quickly to tighten ethics laws and require offsets for new spending — two plans many Republicans will probably support in light of yesterday's results. Democrats also plan to push next year to raise the minimum wage, increase spending for cargo inspection at ports and reduce rates on student loans, all issues likely to draw some GOP support.

Partisan standoffs are likely over the war and any Democratic efforts to repeal Bush's tax cuts for upper-income America. In both cases, Democratic divisions could complicate Pelosi's plans. Democrats largely avoided detailed positions on a new Iraq strategy, but votes over spending for the military and the Iraq operation will force them to take a position."

You guys aren't on the people's side. Your effort's today show your true colors....

[Name removed]

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[BootinUp]

47. Seems there is a lot of Crap

around here these days.

[William769]

And you just stepped in a big pile of it!

:rofl:

[LoZoccolo]

49. I am not here addressing anyone who meets my criteria of slickness.

There are plenty on DU. But there are plenty who don't. Which is why I brought the slickness spray here with me TA-NIGHT! TA-NIGHT!

[matcom]

57. the air in your mom's basement must be stale

it's affecting your brain

[LoZoccolo]

60. I'm 28 floors up right now, actually!

I can see Rahm Emanuel's house from here.

[Cleita]

48. Must be nice up there on that pedestal looking down on the rest

of us who disagree about impeachment. Most of us are involved locally in politics, in canvassing, phone banking and getting out the vote. It's an insult to the hard work many of us do.

[LoZoccolo]

51. I gave no opinion on impeachment in this post. n/t

[katinmn]

53. Not the old "centrists rule, progressives drool" thread again. Yawn

BTW, I agree with Christy at Firedog Lake:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/08/no/

[Generic Other]

58. Why do you need to piss on the contributions of DUers?

Without us the Democrats would not be back in power. I would think you could wait a week before you start telling us all how little our concerns matter.

[LoZoccolo]

61. All DUers who contributed are slick.

I should have included that when I said that I'm not talking about all DUers. Who knows, Rahm Emanuel might even have an account, and if I said DUers weren't slick, that would make me look pretty silly, wouldn't it?

[Guaranteed]

59. Rahm's fucking up. A lot of DUers are too, right now,

but that doesn't change Rahm's leadership problems.

[LoZoccolo]

66. I was just on the phone with all the people you are the leader of.

They are wondering where you've been.

[bread_and_roses]

62. So anyone who disagrees with you is a lazy, do-nothing slug by

definition? :rofl: Is there a smiley for a great big puffed up bag of wind?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

67. How does someone who's always around posting and lecturing

everyone else have the time to do all the things they claim to do?

[Fenris]

68. Locking.

Flamebait.

Fenris
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