WTF??? Does NO one remember Ahrnold's meeting with Enron???

[BeHereNow]

http://www.yuricareport.com/CalifRecall/EnronE-mailsConfirmArnoldS_KenLayMtg.html

How is it possible that this story has been swept under the rug, ESPECIALLY
now that the treasonous bastard has been elected AGAIN???
WTF? Are people REALLY that dim?
So dim that no one remembers a mere 3 years ago in our history???

"Oct 03, 2003

Enron E-mails Confirm Schwarzenegger-Ken Lay Meeting
Enron E-Mails Show Arnold Met With Ken Lay During Energy Crisis

Santa Monica, CA -- Internal Enron e-mails confirm that Arnold Schwarzenegger was among a small group of executives who met with Lay at the posh Peninsula Beverly Hills hotel in May of 2001, in the midst of California's energy crisis. View the e-mails. The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, which obtained the e-mails, is calling on Schwarzenegger to acknowledge the meetings and disclose the information that was presented and discussed. The meeting with Enron occurred ten days after rolling blackouts darkened California for two consecutive days; Schwarzenegger has previously said that he does not remember such a meeting.

"You don't meet with America's most well-known corporate crook in the middle of California's biggest financial disaster and not remember," said FTCR's senior consumer advocate Douglas Heller. "Mr. Schwarzenegger should come clean about what happened at that meeting and if he shares Ken Lay's views on energy regulation."

Hello?
Is any one paying attention?
HOW is it possible that people have not pursued
answers to the governator's transformation form
average actor to the Governor of Cahli-fohrn-ya?
AFTER the massive rip off of California by Enron?
WTF???
I am so pissed off that this cretin is still on the political stage.

RANT off-
BHN

[K8-EEE]

1. Wassup With Angelides That He Didn't POUND THIS!!

I sure would have...Arnie is a cook and liar, big time.

[BeHereNow]

3. I don't know- my head is exploding!

All of it leads back to Cheney's secret Energy meetings,
which also seem to have fallen off the radar...
It all blows my mind, actually.
BHN

[LibDemAlways]

52. Angelides disappeared after the primary.

I don't think many people knew that Arnold had an opponent. I kept waiting for Phil to come out swinging, but he never did. It was pathetic.

[BlueCaliDem]

63. I'm beginning to believe we voters are being cucholded...

I mean, Wonkette has already come out with a piece on Iran-Contra Bob Gates who is set to replace Rumsfailed.

Gates, a sneaky bastard, was working with a relatively mysterious group that was instrumental in pushing the HAVA, and then the e-voting machines on us after the 2000 stolen election.

But in order for the "powers that be" to maintain control over 300 million Americans, they need to give us a sense that we still have rights in a democracy that no longer exists in this country.

In order to save the faces of both the Repiglican and Democratic party regarding the failed attempt to conquer the ME, they needed someone to come in to "relieve" Rumsfailed---and Gates was the back-up plan.

Just ask yourself: How can e-voting machines that have proven to have a "republican" default setting unseat HUGE Republicans from the Senate and House in very red states?

Brad Friedman of BradBlog.com is actually begging Allen, Burns, and other Republican AND Democratic candidates NOT to concede!

Could it be that Brad and Greg Palast are right; that the "fix" is in, and we're too gullible to see it? After all, we Americans were getting pretty furious with all that corruption, and scandals, and we lost interest in Bush's war, so they needed a way out that would save their face...exit Republicans to give Democrats power back, and then enter Bob Gates.

People, I think we're being played like a kid's numbered piano.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

2. That's why they call it the memory hole. N/T

[BeHereNow]

5. No shit.

Apparently the memory hole has infested the brains of most Americans.
As in, the American knowledge of history is now being studied
by scientists who research BLACK holes.
BHN

[shance]

4. There have been a huge amount of election problems here in California.

And we are just now getting more information.

There's little question there were election irregularities/ fraud due to the stories that are coming up, especially in Los Angeles.

I for one, don't believe Arnold legitimately won either of his elections. Electronic voting/optiscanning and those running our elections are heavily connected to the elction companies like Diebold and ES&S.

[BeHereNow]

9. All we really need to know about the situation is:

George Schultz was the first to endorse the govenator.
I think that tells it all.
BHN

[keepCAblue]

14. I ran a precinct in Santa Clara, CA

Santa Clara, CA (in, oddly enough, Santa Clara County) typically votes republican. However, end-of-day totals of our five DRE voting units showed Angelides leading Ahnold 3-2. I figured if Angelides could do this well in a republican strong-hold, that he might have a chance at besting Ahnold. Of course, the statewide totals displayed a completely different picture (Arnold won in a 'landslide')

[nicknameless]

31. I heard from an LA pollworker that there was an outrageous amount of BS

being pulled by the election people there.

Mark Crispin Miller pointed out a number of irregularities in Ahhnold's first election.
http://www.opednews.com/miller1003_CA_Voting.htm

[diva77]

51. I heard that there was a lot of confusion at different precincts with the

new precinct ballot scanners. A lot of malfunctioning of the scanners occurred. Also some people were told at training that the scanners weren't counting the votes, but then on election day found out late into the day that the scanners were counting the votes. If a machine malfunctioned and couldn't be fixed, they would wheel it out (I guess with the votes scanned into it already) and bring another machine. Seems like a huge security breach. It's like taking away the black box during the election. At the close of the polls, some precincts counted their ballots and made sure the numbers matched with the pollbooks, other precincts did not. There were large numbers of provisionals because people tried to register but their registration was never confirmed or recorded by the registrar's office. I also heard that a lot of absentees were considered spoiled with the new uncertified signature checking software made by Diebold.

I wonder how Prop. 87 and 89 lost. Could've been swung either way by LA County. So could any of the races.

[nicknameless]

58. Yep. Shady election activities in Los Angeles can throw initiatives and races.

Who was behind the directives to pollworkers? McCormack?

:grr:

[diva77]

73. Bob Ney has a lot in common with

McCormack - they were in lockstep regarding paper ballots in 2004, 2005 -- both seem to have an affinity for the paperless DREs and their manufacturers despite the overwhelming amount of information available to counter their recommendations

http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=713&Itemid=990

http://rules.senate.gov/hearings/2005/McCormack062105.pdf

McCormack makes sure that all communication is directed through her so I don't see how directives could have been issued by anyone but her.

As head of CACEO, she had a lot to do with Diebold being installed in I think 17 counties in CA and exhibited a cavalier attitude toward installing uncertified software into the machines that "elected" arnold the first time around...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-voting13nov13,1,531224.story?coll=la
-headlines-california

November 13, 2003

Secretary of State Orders Audit of All Counties' Voting Systems
Review of upgraded touchscreen software leads to
discovery that two registrars installed it
without state's OK.

By Allison Hoffman and Tim Reiterman, Times Staff Writers
Responding to revelations that at least one
county used unapproved voting software in the
Oct. 7 recall election, Secretary of State Kevin
Shelley has ordered an audit of voting systems
used in all 58 California counties.
State elections officials reviewing an upgraded
version of Diebold Inc.'s Accuvote touchscreen
voting machines for future certification were
told by company employees that the new software
had already been installed in Alameda and Plumas
counties - without state approval.


The software had been certified by a federal panel for use in the
states.
<snip>

"All of us have made changes to our software -
even major changes - and none of us have gone
back to the secretary of state," McCormack said.
"But it was no secret we've been doing this all
along. (Shelley)knew we were making changes."
--





If we are going to ever have truly clean elections where the people being elected are accountable to the electorate, then voting machines, vendors, voting machine vendor lobbyists, and shady elections officials who are accountable to the vendors must be removed from the equation. Time for clean and simple HAND COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS!!!

[goclark]

34. Are we the only two that believe that Arnold never won

before or this week?

It is clear as a bell to me.

Nothing changed ~ they hated him the first time and they hated him this time.

I am still waiting to talk to anyone that will admit they voted for this clown.

Where were the crowds of people and rallies , I don't recall hearing about them.

I attended a USC rally with Obama and Phil and all the Democrats ~ it was amazing, don't recalll seeing Arnold getting huge crowds.

Did I miss something.

[BeHereNow]

36. And so Debra Bowen's FIRST job is to determine this:

The percentages of touch screen machines which showed
the KKKabal puppet winning versus the number of PAPER BALLOT
votes AGAINST him, and overall the percentage of
KKKabal installed machines in the state versus the number
of legitimate paper ballet machines.
Am I wrong?

I say we DU Debra Bowen to investigate the
legitimacy of his election becaause I know NO one,
including my freeper acquaintances, who voted for the fucker.

BHN

[goclark]

54. Yes! Will you let her know what we feel!

I am serious, I know only ONE person that kinda hinted they may have voted for Arnold but he had no passion with the response.

ZERO, I have heard ZERO who voted for him!

HATE the CLOWN and so does everyone else except Jay Leno and Oprah

[eleny]

6. Was thinking about that last night & figured he'd be called to testify

He's surely hearing - bound!

[BeHereNow]

10. He wasn't called- what's up with THAT?

Fuck these robber barrons.
BHN

[eleny]

18. But he should be called now that we'll have the committee chairs

Those energy hearings are gnawing at too many people. And DUers can barrage the Chair and members after January. I sure intend to do that.

[BeHereNow]

23. I will join you on that movement-

I happen to think it should be the people of California's
number one priority!
Where's the NINE BILLION?
WHY has NO one fought to recover it?
The state infrastructure is falling apart under
the neocon installed fascist and I DEMAND that
our representatives recover that money to
help US, WE THE PEOPLE, recover from the bilking condoned and enabled
by the California government officials!
For the record- I happen to think any
representative that does NOT pursue it should be voted out
in the next CA election.
BHN

[porphyrian]

7. Was that with cheney or after?

I'm pretty sure cheney shredded everything from his meetings.

[BeHereNow]

12. The article says 11 of 45 people showed up at the meeting-

I don't know who was there, but I do know they are
all filthy rich by now...
And yes, I'm sure the notorious Cheney meeting minutes
have been long ago destroyed.
BHN

[ljm2002]

8. Thanks for the reminder...

...I too am disgusted that people have forgotten his role in the energy debacle. I believe that the reason for the Gray Davis recall election was that Gov. Davis was insisting on restitution for the $9B that was proven to be illegally charged.

It is simply amazing. We are so manipulated, the flow of information is so controlled, and people are such willing dupes these days, and the result is the weirdest inability for people to see and act in their own best interest. So they elect a person who was instrumental in one of the biggest thefts to ever happen to a state, and it's just ho-hum.

[BeHereNow]

13. NINE Billion, that's right-

And WHERE is it now?
WHY have NONE of our representatives
pursued it?
WTF!!!!!!!!!!?????????
I am SO pissed off about this.
BHN

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

11. Ahrnold is one scary motherf***ing dude. Don't be fooled. The guy

is trying to replicate the Ronald Reagan model, only Ahrnold is the son of a Nazi.

MKJ

[madmusic]

15. Talk to the Dems who voted for him. There are plenty. n/t

[BeHereNow]

16. Well hell, that is comforting.

But I make it a point not to waste my
breath on fools...
Fuck them and Fuck Ahrnold.
Most of all, fuck our reps who have never
questioned it all.
BHN

[madmusic]

43. I know, they more or less told me to shut up in the California forum.

So I came over here to scream. Keep it up. They might listen just to shut us up.

[BeHereNow]

49. I relish the thought of listening to their screams as they drown in the shit pond

they voted for.
At least I will be smiling as I sink next to them
and will be happy to remind them that they voted for it.
BHN

[BlueCaliDem]

64. How can we be so sure they are really Dems? eom

[SoCalDem]

17. It's HOW they set the "recall" wheels in motion.

Ahhhhnold was their guy all along.. They cajoled Issa into starting the fiasco, and the poor little crybaby thought HE would be the one..

There would have been NO REASON why Ahhhhnold would have been "invited" if not for that...

Perhaps he was told to keep his mouth SHUT during the impending crisis, and that they had a plan for him..

[HCE SuiGeneris]

20. Votes were stolen

and many of the races were in reality not as close as they appeared. Do not forget that '08 is just around the corner. We still have a Supreme Court that is very partisan (bordering on corrupt), and the problems with black box voting have NOT been resolved!!

[chaplainM]

19. He also took an $8 million bribe from the supplements industry

When the LA Times exposed it, he apologized, and kept only the first $million.

[keepCAblue]

21. Ahnold was hand-picked by Rove and Bushco to run...

Anyone who thinks Arnold isn't a part of, or at least beholden to, Rove and the Bush Crime Family, is naive. Arnold was at Bohemian Grove with Rove and other high-level Rethuglicans just before it was announced he would run for Gubenator. And who could forget Ahnold's nauseating pandering speech for Bush at the 2004 rethuglican convention?

From what we've hear, the Republican hierarchy -- especially those close to former Gov. Pete Wilson -- would favor Schwarzenegger. At least that's the word that came out of the Bohemian Grove this past weekend, where a number of state and national GOPers, including presidential adviser Karl Rove, happened to have gathered at a club getaway.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/07/23/BA253080.DTL

[SoCalDem]

24. Arnold is the embodiment of pete Wilson's 2nd & now 3rd term

anyone who thinks that Ahhnold is actually running things probably also thinks that *² is the greatest US president..ever

[BeHereNow]

28. So FUCKING sadly TRUE...

As far as the dems taking the country back, I'll
believe it when I see them liberate us from
Poppy Bush and his KKKartel's pathetic actor puppet.
BHN

[diva77]

38. The Republicans have a habit of picking the Dem opponents as well

that is why they are so gracious with Hillary now - they want her to run so they can win in '08. That's why they gave all that money to Nader in '00. The trick to Arnold's campaign this time was to appropriate the Dem. agenda of fighting greenhouse gases. I wonder how Angelides emerged as frontrunner? Anyone know?

[keepCAblue]

76. Angelides beat Westly in the primary...

Although Westly significantly outspent Angelides in the primary, Angelides had formidable support from the CA Dem party and notable endorsements from high profilers like Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein. Angelides also had "the backing of the California Labor Federation and the California Teachers Association."

[Hissyspit]

22. Not to mention sexually harrassing & threatening & humiliating women. n/t

[Kerrytravelers]

25. I'd say about 39.2% of the voting population of California know that.

http://vote.ss.ca.gov/Returns/gov/00.htm

The rest are just thrilled that they can call him The Governator. :eyes:

[Gregorian]

26. Did Cruz Bustamonte vaporize?

He had a pending lawsuit against Mr. Muscle. That was supposedly the big reason to get Cruz out of the way. To be able to dismiss that suit.

No, I'm sorry, it appears that the majority of Americans have no interest in their country. I didn't. I was not fully engaged until 2000. Then it was an obsession.

It seems to have been swept into the memory hole.

I'm also afraid we don't have enough resources for justice to work. I mean, people, money, time. But how could something this big be ignored? Or is it? It's not like there is another Fitzgerald working on it. I don't even know the status of the Enron trial. Ken Lay's "dead".

There are too many scandals for me to keep up with. It's like this was so many scandals ago, even we DU'ers have forgotten it.

[BeHereNow]

27. NO WAY! I didn't know about that! Gotta link or something?

The implications are consistent with the rest
of the whole crooked deal.
BHN

[SoCalDem]

29. here's one link

http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive2006/may/war_2006_may_images_2.html

[BeHereNow]

32. GOD Damn, that pisses me off even more!

I remember an incident during the recall that infuriated me-
Every where I turned, there were suddenly "pollsters" at
EVERY super market I went to- ALL of them touting "polls"
requesting signatures against the MOST ridiculous shit I've
ever read. Knee jerk, emotional stuff, like "should teenagers
be forced to have abortions if the pregnancy was objected to
by the parents?" Seriously, that was one of the questions.
Of course my bullshit radar went off and I asked the woman
what company she was working for, as in, who was sponsoring the survey.
She freaked out and got on her cell phone to call her boss. I went inside the market
and asked the manager on duty if he was aware of the gathering
of signatures under false pretense. It got ugly-
he asked her to leave.
I then, and now, firmly believe a bushbot rovian operation
was in play; that signatures were gathered under false pretense
and turned in under a petition to recall Davis.

BHN

[Bullwinkle925]

30. I certainly remember and I didn't vote for the Bastid!!

[Cleita]

33. I have so much more crap filed away on Arnold than this.

Yet he will be our governor. More interesting is that Jerry Brown will be Atty. General and Debra Bowen, Sec. of the State in California. He essentially has been made into a eunuch.

[Kerrytravelers]

35. There are posters on the California board talking about voting for Shcwartzenidiot

and McClintock.

Can you imagine? :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=141x25284

[BeHereNow]

37. Yes I can, because most Americans are completely IGNORANT

and have the attention spans of fleas.
Of course they have forgotten all about the NINE Billion dollars
they were robbed of which their beloved govenator has
not lifted a finger to restore to them.
They will continue to sacrifice their own best interests because they are IGNORANT.
And yes, I guess people get the government they deserve-
unfortunately, their children are the ones who will pay.
That nine billion could go a long way in education and health care, but
no, the "morans" would rather revel in worshiping a pop culture actor icon
as their governor.
How fucking pathetic is THAT?

BHN

[upi402]

40. Jessy "the body" Ventura could kick his ass

unreal

WTF with Maria???

Dose she forget those fucks killed her family. Oh, my bad, the patsy's did it. And damn that airplane mechanic too!

[BeHereNow]

46. Hello? Maria MARRIED THE FUCK! What exactly do you expect?

The woman is clearly brain damaged from
her bulimic induced overdoses of ex-lax...
And from her anorexic sick ass you expect WHAT?
She married the sexual predator "terminator" for Christ's sake!
If you think Kennedy family association is some sort of
certification for mental soundess, I suggest you watch the
Mayles Brothers documentary titled, "Grey Gardens."
OMFG!

BHN

[Kerrytravelers]

53. And a search on some posters finds some interesting posts, as well.

I've been searching posts quite a bit today. Just saying. :shrug:

[BeHereNow]

55. Oh Honey, I hear ya! If I had a dime for every time I've done that!

Great DU minds think alike, eh?
LOL!
Can't tell you how many times I've engaged in that activity
over the years on DU.
Interesting, isn't it?

BHN

On edit- Memo to self: "Don't type without glasses..."

[Kerrytravelers]

59. Quite interesting!

[Kerrytravelers]

75. And another one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=141x25683

:eyes:

[upi402]

39. that's why i hope the next enron bleeds the morans of all their dough

progressives there are sooooo bummed about that.

[BeHereNow]

41. Like I've said here for years...

The last laugh we will have will be when the
dumb asses are drowning in the abyss they voted FOR,
right next to us- it is then that we will be able to look them
eye to eye and say, "We tried to tell you....now swim through
the shit flood YOU created with the rest of us and we sincerely
hope you drown FIRST."

BHN

[upi402]

45. I want to make plans

for an economic crash that we, the non-corporatist tools, can weather the storm. Is it crazy to think we can organize and work together that way?

I'd like to be hopping across their heads as they have a good shit gargle. Maybe we could sell 'BushBrand Jesus Water' on ebay... :rofl:

[Gold Metal Flake]

42. I remember.

Proof.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=141&topic_id=25605&mesg_id=25613

[BeHereNow]

47. Yeah BABY! That's what I'm talking about, so WHY AREN'T 'They?'

Maybe we can get someone in our new Congress interested in an investigation of Arnie, Enron, energy & the recall.

INDEED!
BHN

[Gold Metal Flake]

50. As Hartmann says...

We are the leaders. We elect representatives, not leaders. We start the parade, and a rep will jump in front of it.

How to start a parade?

[lonestarnot]

44. I can't stand the way the fucker looks, smells, sounds, steals, acts, lies, shares

my air, my water or my space! I have no idea how blue California could elect this fucker again. :shrug: Makes me fucking sick!

[BeHereNow]

48. I happen to think we did NOT elect him...SO, Debra Bowen?

I voted for Bowen, i now DEMAND she do her job, starting with
the NAZI.
California has ALWAYS been BLUE, so HOW the fuck did he win
the election?
I don't know ANY one who voted for his sorry Cheney-Bush-Enron sucking ass.
I am FURIOUS and want an investigation as to how many of his
votes were recorded on touch screen machines.
BHN

[HCE SuiGeneris]

56. I empathize.. CA got screwed. Beware black box voting.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

57. Rovian ploy for the '08 contest

Fake empirical evidence... big crock of shit is what it is.

[BlueCaliDem]

62. I happen to be of like mind with you. I don't know ANYBODY, even

...Bush voting, Republican teachers here in the San Gabriel Valley, who'd voted for him! And don't start me on the Latino vote, since La Opinion, the newspaper for Spanish speaking people, had endorsed Angelides, NOT Arnold, and the Mexicans were furious with him for endorsing the Minute(KKK)men---so how in the hell did he win??

His "win" stinks to HIGH HELL.

No wonder his "friends" targeted Kevin Shelley who'd earlier, de-certified e-voting machines and forced him to resign so that Bush-install McPherson could recertify those goddamn machines that weren't put in place in time to cause Auhnuld's embarrassing defeat during last year's "special election".

Now we're to believe, after he pissed off the Nurses and Teachers Unions, the Latinos, SEIU (trying to take In-Home Care Provider's money away, then when that didn't go through, tried to cut SSI benefits which we fought hard against!) that he won in a landslide???

We're all furious here in SoCal. The Bush-Repiglicans stole yet another election!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

65. Unfortunately,

we didn't have access to the 'real math'.

Take a look at what these assholes propagate. All the obfuscation and intentional alienation serves to divide and conquer. Divided we stand, because they have campaigned to break our trust. We are in limbo... or so they conceptualize.

Our only, and I truly mean ONLY, deliverance from the hell created by voter apathy, and their preying upon human nature, is to not be a statistically, predictable, entity. So think radically, act rationally, and let's surprise 'our gov't' with a duplicitous personality. that actually benefits the people that hold democracy sacred.

[begin_within]

60. Schwarzenegger cares only about himself. Period. Californians can't see that.

I'm extremely disappointed in Californians (except the S.F. Bay area ones, who consistently pay attention and vote the intelligent way). Most of the rest of California is populated with people who are too selfish and live in their own little bubbles too much to even bother to read or learn about anything that is going on. They simply vote based on what people they know tell them, which is almost always inaccurate information.

[BlueCaliDem]

66. Dems AND Repubs alike were solidly against Schwarzenegger...

...in my neck of the woods, and I really don't know anybody who voted for that asshole---not after that goddamn "special election" of his that went down in flames before Kevin Shelley was replaced with Bruce McPherson who re-certified e-voting machines in the dead of night back in the beginning of January this year!

The fact that paper ballots were used in that special election due to decertification by Shelley of e-voting machines, it was undeniably clear that Californians didn't want his stinkin' initiatives when we dealt him, and his corporate friends the horrific defeat they suffered when they tried to circumvent the California legislature, so how again can anyone believe Schwarzenliar won this election??

Even cable and broadcast talking heads were a taken aback asking how it was possible that Schwarzenegger, who suffered a horrific defeat of ALL his initiatives last year that was sure to cost him re-election, now won re-election against all odds??

There can only be ONE reasonable explanation: those e-voting machines had their default setting stuck on "Schwarzenegger".

Even our paper ballots; our Inkavote ballots are tallied on...you guessed it! E-voting machines!

A while back, Brad Friedman also exposed a little known fact in Riverside county where poll workers actually received ballots, then transferred the votes onto an optical reading machine and ran them through!

I think we're kidding ourselves that ANY election that used e-voting contraptions are even close to fair, and I believe we'd do well to pay www.BradBlog.com a visit, and then it might not take much of your imagination to conclude that e-voting machines haven't stopped "glitching"...

Only now, they're glitching in favor of Democrats...

The question now is...will Debra Bowen keep her promise to investigate these machines and make them a thing of the past now she's elected as SoS? I guess we'll have to wait and see...

[begin_within]

69. I just hope Bowen knows how upset we are with these strange

results... I can accept 87 and 89 losing, but not by so much. 87 was close to 50-50 in the polls right before the election.

[lonestarnot]

71. So let's get to the bottom of it!

[keepCAblue]

77. I ran a (predominantly repub) precinct in Santa Clara, CA

Santa Clara, CA typically leans republican. However, end-of-day totals of our five DRE voting units showed Angelides leading Ahnold 3-2. I figured if Angelides could do this well in a republican strong-hold, that he might have a chance at besting Ahnold. Of course, the statewide totals displayed a completely different picture (Arnold won in a 'landslide').

[Pachamama]

61. Send email and letters to our new CA State Attorney General Jerry Brown

Perhaps he could make that something to get to the bottom of and get Mr. Schwarzenegger to answer that question for the people of CA.

:hi:

[progressivebydesign]

67. I TOTALLY remembered that! But he's a movie star..

..and people are completely fucking clueless, basically. How do you think Reagan got so far?

[Rainscents]

68. Make sure you send this information and election fraud to be investigated

by new attorney General in Jan. You guys can do the recall on Schwarzenegger once he'd been investigated and found out he lied.

[Bushfire]

70. He put the kabosh on a BILLION dollar lawsuit against Enron, and those who bilked

California. How Angelides ignored this I never will understand.

[BeHereNow]

72. Things that make you say, "Hmmm...yes, why is that?"

Nobody has even whimpered about the whole dirty
deal- WHY is that? When it is SO evident that Davis was
recalled because of the Enron crimes against California
in that he wanted the money paid back, and then Schwazenegger
suddenly became the governor, and the whole story
disappeared.
WTF???
As a Californian who recieved a whopping electrical bill
out of the blue during the Enron criminal manipulation
of the citizens of my state- I want my money back NOW.
And I want our representatives to fight for our right to
be reimbursed for the theft.

So why are they pretending
it never happened?

BHN

[Bushfire]

74. Good Question!

If I lived in that state, I'd be screaming bloody murder BILLION DOLLAR THEFT myself. Fortunately I'm in the Midwest, in a state that didn't get screwed.