Did Allen and Burns avoid recounts to prevent voting fraud from being exposed?

[marmar]

That's the speculation of a British citizen's letter that Mike Malloy just read. What do you think?:shrug:
True or not, we need to press the Dems to pass Kucinich's voting bill.

[BlooInBloo]

1. That's the going conjeture. Discovery is a bitch.

[Lerkfish]

2. I and others have already posited that theory here.

so, yes. there's no way a repuglican is going to concede his race AND the senate that easily unless there was a damn good reason.

[bobbolink]

3. or worse....

But, doncha just love all the flowery speechifying it was couched in?

gak...

[Iris]

4. well, the right wing talk show circuit is spinning the idea a bit.

They keep bringing up the fact that there were no cries of voter fraud this time, but if the Republicans had won, that would be a different story. (Of course, no mention of what's going on in Katherine Harris's district over her old seat)

[davidwparker]

5. No. Allen avoided it because he had no chance to come up with the

votes.

[Homer Wells]

6. YUP!!

next question??

[AIJ Alom]

7. You bet, as has been pointed out before exit polls matched everywhere

else except VA and MT.

[Dinger]

8. I Had A Funny Reaction To Your Thread Title:

For some reason I thought to myself "burns & allen." THat show was before my time, but it made me chuckle a bit. Sorry, I know this is off-topic. Couldn't help myself.

[Aristus]

9. There's also the possibility that they did it to avoid the tag "Sore Loserman!"

Which they so richly deserve, no matter how graciously they conceded.

[budkin]

10. I believe it might have exposed 2004

And possibly things that were going on this year in those states.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

11. I think votes were stolen

and that many of the races were in reality not as close as they appear. Do not forget that '08 is just around the corner. We still have a Supreme Court that is very partisan (bordering on corrupt), and the problems with black box voting have NOT been resolved!!
Signature lines are currently turned off due to high traffic.

[papau]

12. Well Virginia has a problem machine apparently - just like in prior years

Perhaps paper trail random mandatory audits of say 5% of the vote is needed as a Federal law?===================================================================

VOTE COUNTING IRREGULARITIES DISCOVERED IN VIRGINIA SENATE RACE

On November 7th, investigators for the election integrity organization
VelvetRevolution.us were contacted by a poll watcher from Henrico County
Virginia, Maybeury Precinct #0408, who reported that the vote tallies were
wrong at the end of election-day - 808 for Allen and 51 for Webb for a total
of 876. The congressional race between Republican Cantor and Democrat Nachman
also showed 808 to 51. The Virginia Board of Elections website also showed
that the down ballot marriage amendment in the same precinct was vastly
different -- 678 to 681 for a total of 1359. No other precincts in Henrico
County showed the type of skewing shown in precinct 0408. The poll watcher
said that she personally talked to over three hundred people who voted for
Webb.

This morning, VR investigators contacted the United States Attorney and FBI
in Richmond as well as the head of the Board of Elections to complain about
the results in this race. At approximately 12:30 pm today, the BOE website
suddenly changed the results in precinct 0408 to 808 for Allen and 551 for
Webb for a total of 1356. The congressional race was also changed to 904
for Cantor and 432 for Nachman. The county results and the state results
were also changed.

VR believes that this anomaly must be investigated because either the
machines reported the wrong results or outright fraud occurred. VR has
noticed other anomalies across Virginia that call into questions the results
of the vote.

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/electionstrikeforce

[sendero]

13. Of course..

... their races were the only ones where the exit polls did not track the results within an expected margin of error.

I've said here many time, and been excorciated for it, that there are limits to how many votes can be stolen. I stand vindicated :)

[SmokingJacket]

14. Who knows, but voting reform is overdue. nt

[Greeby]

15. Errrr, that was me

:hi:

I've often gotten my emails read by Mike, going back to the night after the London bombings

[marmar]

16. I should have known only a DUer would be capable of such insight...

:hi:

What time is it in the UK?

[Greeby]

18. 3:17am

I know I shouldn't be up this late. But with news my father's health is on borrowed time, I haven't been able to sleep :(

[marmar]

19. Best wishes to you and your family.

:grouphug:

[txindy]

17. I'd say so, yes. There's no way Macaca would've given up so easily.

He's a bully. He would've put up a token fight at least, if only to annoy others.

The wingnut leadership could ill-afford to let a true recount in MT and VA take place because the machines would've been scrutinized. Not to mention the voter suppression tactics used in those states.

[Liberal In Texas]

20. Yes. Locking down the election process to make sure it's fair and non-partisan should be in the top

5 or so on the Dem to-do list.

[emulatorloo]

21. Look at this - THEY HAD TO USE PAPER BALLOTS in VA cuz Machines were breaking

Check out this thread -- Machine malfunctions/problems meant they had to hand out paper ballots. Which meant a paper trail they can't mess with

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2646420

TOO RICH! VA GOP concerned about voting machine glitches! (Too MUCH paper!)

[Zynx]

22. Burns could not request a recount. Recounts meaningless in VA.

In other news, Republicans discover a flaw in the whole "paperless voting" bit.

[Mme. Defarge]

23. Mais sans doute!

[Stephanie]

24. I've been saying the same thing about Allen

I think so. There was a thread here about the discrepancy btw the vote and the exit polls

[Mr_Spock]

25. It's a possibility

:shrug: