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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:44 PM
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Poll question: Which should we investigate first?
I feel like a kid in a candy store. There's just so much to choose from and they all look so good...

I can't decide, which one would you choose to investigate first?
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:46 PM
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1. Energy Task Force....
Oh, I want to see the minutes of that meeting. I want to see what went on with rolling blackouts and manipulation of the energy markets.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:49 PM
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3. That would be delicious maybe with a side of 9/11 and a dallop of Iraq...
thrown in for good measure.
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:53 PM
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9. All in good time my friend...
I don't really care what gets investigated first just as long as we investigate it all.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:56 PM
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12. Truthfully, I don't think we could investigate it all...
They'd essentially have to dump all the evidence onto the net and let us spend the next 10 years digging through it all to even cover half of the shit they've done. That might not be such a crazy idea... remember, the Pukes posted Nuclear Secrets on the web looking for Saddams WMD. I'm sure we could post Gannon's visits to the White House without causing too much of a national security incident.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:56 PM
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11. Yup just go in order... starting with the Energy Task Force
and moving on through 9/11, the Patriot Act, Iraq War, Abu Grahib, Wiretapping, etc, etc,. We don't even need to go after them for all the stoopid shit they pulled, just the illegal stuff..
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:14 AM
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29. If we see that hostile takeover of Iraqi National Oil was being planned
in these meetings (remember those oil maps showing the oilfields divided up?), it sort of exposes the lie that WMD was the reason to invade, don'tcha think? I'm pretty sure invading a country and killing its citizens to steal their national resources is a war crime.

So, I'd start there...it's also in temporal sequence. That will probably the 1st of many findings in the Bill of Impeachment.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:29 AM
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34. You know damn well they'll resign long before we get a chance to impeach...
These guys stole our car... wrecked it on the highway going 120 miles an hour and now we got to figure out a way to get to work in a busted ride. They're not going to stick around... the minute the SCOTUS hands down the decision that they have to testify before Congress both Bush and Cheney are going to run back to their big piles of money and never look back.
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:42 AM
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39. In reality mikelewis, that is what will probably
happen, those assholes will meet their maker sometime in their miserable lives, hope it is sooner than later.

BTW, what ever happened to Mary Cheney?
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:54 AM
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41. They'll never get to meet their maker...
...and above all the tragedies over the past few years, this is probably the most tragic. God won't bare to look at them after all they've done. Yes, he is forgiving but there are somethings that he said he can't forgive... they've reveled in doing them all. The most tragic thing I can think of is the death of a soul and these guys have killed theirs long ago.

As for Mary, she was only out stumping... she'll get put back in her closet where they think she belongs and we won't hear much from her again. My guess is, there's going to be a lot of people slipping away quietly and quickly over the next few months and we'll probably be free of their brand of ignorance for a few years. I never thought I'd say this but I think we've just witnessed the controlled demolition of the neocon agenda and those who tried to sell it to the American people will either slip quietly away or just fizzle out and dissappear... leaving us to handle the wreckage they've left behind.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:07 AM
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25. that could conceivably put stink on Arnold too
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:10 AM
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27. I'm not sure but I think Davis was Gov ...
when the blackouts happened. I believe a repug was gov. when the CA energy markets were deregulated.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:50 AM
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44. Arnold met with Ken Lay during blackouts and Bush came out here to tell
Davis that he wouldn't make regulators do their jobs.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:48 PM
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2. The missing billions sent to Iraq
That's hard-earned taxpayer money needed for everything under the sun here in the United States.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:50 PM
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6. What was the last tally... $9 billion or so?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:50 PM
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4. Alphabetically?
NO, that would take to long!
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Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:50 PM
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5. Plame is the gateway...
to all the rest.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:53 PM
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10. ROVE
Now that would be sweet.... Can you imagine Rove facing off against Boxer, Biden and Kerry? ... and being forced to testify under oath, nonetheless? Yeah, I'm drooling already.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:51 PM
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7. DSM
That's the proof he intended to go to war when he was telling the country the IWR was a vote for peace.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:52 PM
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8. Cheney. He needs to be the next to go. For health reasons, y'know.
And to spend more time with his family, yeah, that's it.

hopefully,
Bright
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:05 AM
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21. I don't see him lasting too long...
I bet the second Conyers picks up his gavel, Cheney will start having palpitations...
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:57 PM
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13. Un-Gag Sibel!
Let Sibel Edmonds tell her story and follow all that up. Sibel has said her story interconnects with many of the other scandals. It's germane to the Plame leak, corruption, espionage, in fact it seems to have every element except sex.

-Hoot
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:00 AM
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16. Well, with Hastert in it... I certainly hope it doesn't have any sex...
There's somethings I just don't want to know.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:17 AM
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43. OMFG! ROFLMAO!
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 01:17 AM by hootinholler
:spray: :rofl:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:57 PM
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14. Chronological order
Cheney's energy task force, including the map of Iraq and how much of it each oil baron was supposed to get. Then 9/11. Then the anthrax attacks against oh-so-convenient political targets. Then the lies leading up to the Iraq war. Then the massive corruption that runs all though the GOP. Then election fraud and GOP multistate racketeering in 2000, 2004, and this year. Those robocalls had to originate somewhere.

By the time they plow through all that, committee by committee, the public should be thoroughly sick of the GOP and the horse they rode in on.

Lots of them will go to jail. In the meantime, we will ruin all the rest of their days in power.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:01 AM
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17. Man, I forgot about the Anthrax attacks...
Wouldn't it be nice to actually investigate the murder of Americans in stead of sweeping it under the rug...
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stonecoldsober Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:03 AM
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20. I agree 100% - it must be chronological
The Bush administration has been one long unbroken crime spree - it's all tied together and inter-related. It will all begin to unravel before we even get to the investigating Iraq War.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:22 AM
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31. 5 minutes into the 2000 election Selection and Bush will resign...
anyone want to take bets?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:48 AM
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40. *ss has cut and run from every failure in his life and that is a great
deal of the time. Poppy is already trying to bail him out of this final mess. I think he will jump ship if the storm threatens him personally.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:59 PM
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15. So many choices, but the Energy Task Force is one heckuva big domino.
It would eventually topple the whole, rotten lot.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:02 AM
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18. Went with DSM, because I think it is the one that links them together. n/t
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:03 AM
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19. Plus, it would take down Blair and help our Brittish DUer's...
It's like a two-for-one special.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:39 AM
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37. Good point, thank you. n/t
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:06 AM
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22. The Mother of all Scandals. . .
is 9/11 Cover-up. . .9/11 Inside Job. . .
don't know how surviving people/families are coping with their gnawing suspicions about the many, many, many unanswered questions about that tragic day. . .my heart goes out to them

:cry: :grouphug: :cry: :grouphug: :cry:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:12 AM
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28. I don't understand why 9/11 is not #1 on the list
So many unanswered questions. So many facts being withheld from us.
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:23 AM
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32. Exactly. . .
for the past 6 years, we've all been sideswiped by Bushworld but those 9/11 families have been hit by a Mack truck. . .I really truly pray their pain is vindicated BEFORE the BushCo leaves office. . .these families must be vindicated!
:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:34 AM
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35. It's an awesome number of scandals when you think about it
How are they going to find the time and staff to handle all these investigations? We could even start with the Koch scandal that happened about one or two months into the Bush administration back in early 2001, about the fact that Bush's Justice Department dropped almost all criminal charges (100 years of prison time pending against the executives of a major corporate polluter and over $350 million in pending fines when Clinton left office reduced to zero prison time and only $20 million) against the Koch Energy Company, which was one of the largest campaign contributors to Bush's political career. That scandal happened so long ago we don't even remember it here anymore.

How is the legislative branch going to be able to get to all of this mess in only two years? Divide them up between the House and Senate?
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:39 AM
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36. I think Bush may have solved our unemployment problems...
We'd have to hire thousands of people just to handle the first year in office.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:24 AM
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33. That's the one I voted for...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:06 AM
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23. its not the gannon security breaches...its where he took off his breaches in the White House
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:07 AM
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24. don't forget Katrina aftermath
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:21 AM
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30. I didn't forget that one....
I just want to... There are somethings so shameful, it's too hard to mention... Katrina is probably the most shameful incident in American history... bar none. We should Impeach Bush if for no other reason than Katrina and we need to make sure FEMA is fully funded and staffed with the absolute best people in the country. We also need to make sure we send a Marshall plan package down to the Gulf coast ASAP.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:08 AM
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26. The Dickster and his money making machine. Wipe that sneer right off his ugly mug
:mad:
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:40 AM
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38. That fuckhead Cheney should have
a firecracker lit into his ass, just like he did for us for 6 years.

Have no sympathy for an arrogant, unpleasant, unforgiving, lying, cheating, theiving, coniving asshole.

May his pacemaker short out in the airport!!

Crude asshole
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:59 AM
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42. We should at least have pity on the wretch...
His wickedness has earned him an eternity of hearing the agonizing death shreiks of those he is responsible for murdering. There's somethings that you just can't atone for or run away from and I feel pity for anyone who has such a ruined soul and such a bleak and miserable future to look forward to. I don't have much mercy to offer him but I do pity that wretched lump of flesh.
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