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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:28 AM
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Draft Jim Jeffords to Replace Cheney as VP
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 09:28 AM by CorpGovActivist
He's available.

He's bipartisan.

He stood up to the President when it counted.

- Dave
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:29 AM
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1. No,
he'd be in a position to run against Dems in 08. This cabal needs to leave in disgrace as they should.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:31 AM
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2. If Cheney Leaves Tomorrow...
... who's your pick, then?

- Dave
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:33 AM
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4. He's not leaving
but if he did, I'd pick Edwards. ; )
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:32 AM
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3. Since Cheney is an elected official I doubt you can swap
out people for the position that easily. On another thread, someone noted that only the Congress can fire him. Given that, I'm not certain how you replace a VP. I left that question on the thread. My guess is that the succession order would have to be followed, which would then place Pelosi? next in line... Just guessing. If that would be the case, Cheney ain't goin' nowhere.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:34 AM
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5. Gerald Ford replaced Spiro Agnew - Nixon selected Ford.
Ford is the only president that was not elected as a pres OR VP.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:34 AM
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6. If Cheney goes, Bush names a successor.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:35 AM
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7. As interesting as that would be, Bush is too vindictive to choose him...
...because of his switch in 2001.

If Cheney retires, Bush would likely pick:

1) Condi (especially if a Hillary run appears inevitable)

2) Jeb (because Babs will kick his ass if he doesn't)

3) McCain, simply to set him up for 2008 (as long as McCain promises to pick Jeb as running mate - keeping Babs from kicking his ass)

4) Satan, because Bush owes him one... ;)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:39 AM
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9. Regarding Jeb,
Poppy would probably kick his ass if he did appoint him. Not very subtle and the dynasty needs to lay low for a while till people forget their current crimes.

LOL!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:46 AM
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13. Most likely would be John Bolton.
One way or another, he's going to keep bolton in the admin.

:grr:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:38 AM
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8. I love Jim Jeffords
I've voted for him for years. He's a tremendous human being and a true blue patriot. For anyone who thinks it was easy for him to shed his republican identity, it wasn't; he comes from a long line of prominent VT republicans, including his dad, who was CJ on the VT SC. But Jim is leaving the Senate because of dementia. It's widely known in the state that he's been having cognitive difficulties for a while.

Come on home, Jim. Come back to the patchwork of fields and woods and worn mountains that you're so fond of, and bask in the affection and respect of your fellow Vermonters.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:54 AM
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19. I did not know that. Some other higher ups have
dementia as well, like Bush and Cheney. I don't think their two addled brains put together equal one neural synapse in Jim Jefford's head!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:39 AM
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10. Did I miss something?
Is Cheney going somewhere?
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:58 AM
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20. Cheney is not going anywhere,
but for all of the righteous indignation here about impeaching Bush some thought should be given to first going after Cheney. He might be a more convict able target.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:42 AM
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11. He hasn't got a chance of Bush picking him for VP and besides
Cheney's not going anywhere unless he dies.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:44 AM
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12. Rush will be the next VP.
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 09:47 AM by Hubert Flottz
Edit...Or how about a woman?



Where does she shop for clothes...Abu Ghraib?
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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:49 AM
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14. Does this mean that the story is about to break?
I hope so. If Cheney does go, Bush will put in someone who can use it as a springboard into the 2008 election. I suspect they've had this plan all along, but had planned to use his health as the excuse.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:50 AM
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15. George Alien?
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:50 AM
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16. No, I think Baker is waiting in the wings. Here's why:
The naming of Gates as SecDef means Team 41 is in the house. Here's how the play goes down:

The Baker Commission recommendations for Iraq are accepted by Gates, who helped draft them. Cheney can't live with them and resigns in protest (and under massive pressure from Team 41 of course). Bush is utterly isolated and accepts Team 41's directive to put Baker in as Veep. Baker takes over for the last year as care taker only so that the Republican nominee for president in '08 won't have a Bush taint.

I really don't think W is in control of events any more.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:03 AM
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22. Baker will never be VP, here is why...
Baker will never allow himself to be put under oath and answer questions about his past exploits. Baker has been the 'bagman' and inside advisor to so much wrongdoing for so long that he could never agree to that. Besides, Baker's real value is to work behind the scenes, and he has been able to wield incredible power and profit handsomely behind the figurehead's appearance of power.

If this move takes place, a replacement for Cheney, the selection will attempt to influence future events and promote the individuals who will hold the reins of power who can continue to help them keep a lid on past wrongdoing.

So in this environment, McCain is the person to exploit for that purpose. He holds a positive view by the populace, he has demonstrated over the last 12 mos that he will ignore truth and values for the greater goal of becoming the next President. There is also some support for the proposition that these people have something incriminating on McCAin that will allow them to control his every move.

Rest assured no one with honesty and integrity will inhabit the office of VP as long as Bush, or one of his followers, is still President. It will take a new DEM President in 2008 to change that.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:12 AM
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23. Interesting analysis. Thanks.
I keep foprgetting about the risks of being put under oath. You're right, Team 41 has way too much to lose if that happens.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:50 AM
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17. Bush Will Name Cheney's Replacement If Cheney Resigns Or Is Removed...
..... and IMHO the plan has already been worked out in advance --John McCain will be the next VP, and will use the position to garner support for the 2008 Presidential run.

It appears that the reason GWB has embraced Poppa Bush's cabal is that they 'know' that with Congressional investigations and subpoenoes the NeoCons criminal and corrupt behavior is about to be exposed to great public outrage. Many of the links are being severed even as we speak, and evidence is being secreted, and bringing in Poppa Bush's replacements will be part of GWB's claims of 'ignorance' as to what was going on. In many ways, it will mirror the excuse that "the intelligence I was given was bad."

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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:53 AM
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18. Any potential replacement with presidential aspirations would be insane to accept.
The taint of the House of Bush would be too great a liability in '08. The only thing that makes sense to me is that an experienced caretaker would wind up as Veep. I don't think W will have much of a voice in who that is.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:59 AM
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21. Jim Jefford's wife is very ill with cancer
Part of the reason he is retiring is to spend more time with her.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:05 PM
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24. Hypothetical...
Cheney resigns tomorrow, citing health reasons.

Who would be your pick for Bush to choose? Assume, for the sake of the hypothetical that:

A. The choice must be a Republican.

B. Your choice would be selected.

Who would you pick to replace Cheney T. Agnew, and why?

- Dave
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:28 PM
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25. Senator Lincoln Chafee is available
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 08:30 PM by DemReadingDU
He's Republican, well, he might be switching parties. If Republicans want to keep him Republican, I'd choose Chafee.

Hmm, Cheney having ticker problems, :eyes:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:30 AM
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26. Jeffords or Chafee would be best for the People, but
This administration has never been about the People. It's about Bush. So if Cheney resigns, it will be a Bush to step in as VP. It could be either brother Jeb or father George. Both are available, and either could run as president in 2008, or step in as president if georige must also resign.

It's all about continuing the Bush dynasty.
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