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Jon8503 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:05 AM Original message |
Learning from Lamont - By David Sirota |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. Your link sent me to my yahoo mail. Please fix it - I want to read this. |
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Jon8503 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. fixed, thanks. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. I can't read the rest. |
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Jon8503 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. This link should work. Thanks. |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
3. The national Dems stabbed Lamont in the back. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Precisely. (NT) |
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Jon8503 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. How are we set up if Lieberman should go to the republican party which |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Joe lost ALL of his power on election day. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. 2008? |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. Catch a clue |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. As long as the Dems maintain their majority, he is fine |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. "If" he went to the dark side? As in Cheney supporting him? Fox putting |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Formally & publicly as the republican Joe Leiberman really is... |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. He's not going to leave |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. It's a tactic... |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I think it's more an attempt at self-fulfilling prophesy |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. No "cut and run" him. More "Stay & Blackmail" |
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Jon8503 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. As I previously stated, I don't think he will leave as well but was |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. If he caucused with the Repubs, they have the majority |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Actually the Netroots screwed Lamont from get-go. Their total insistence on focusing on Iraq |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Rechewed over codswallop! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I'd argue with you but conceed to 'Rechewed over codswallop' |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I don't think Lamont had any shot to win this thing short of Joe quitting |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Lol! |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Yeah, war - what a silly idea! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. point being, it wasn't the ONLY issue. And flattening Lamont into a 'single-issue' |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. It was THE issue. What brought voters to polls. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. They played it safe by hedging thier bets |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
7. Is there any truth to what some say that he ran a bad campaign? |
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skiddlybop (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Sirota is just a little deceptive. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. He did run a bad campaign |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. That's addressed in the article |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Right after the primary, Clinton 'donated' her communications guru to Lamont. Coincidence? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
11. He brought national attention tothe Iraq war. For that I am greatful. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. to wit, to our opposition to it. The majority;s opposition to it. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. I think Lamont's primary victory opened the door |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. Lieberman won because he took a second bite of the apple |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. WIthout Lamont's primary victory, Nov 7 wouldn't have been possible |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I don't buy this for a second |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Most Dem candidates didn't dare speak of it before, in spite of Murtha |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. So, Jim Webb started wearing his son's combat boots because of Lamont? |
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Jon8503 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. I see it that way as well. Lamont was speaking for the people. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I basically saw Lamont as a mouthpiece for the anti-war crowd |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
34. Thanks for this |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
43. It's mostly the vacuum from a weak Republican with no party support |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Agreed. The Other Factors Are Secondary To This. |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yep, and Lamont probably GAINED Democratic voters and some independents |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
46. i think the dems in charge knew they had a safe seat, no matter WHICH one won |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I think you hit it perfectly; Chuck Schumer was simply doing math |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
50. The people of Connecticut selected their representative. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
51. The most important sentence in the article-- |
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