Carvilles just blowing smoke---he nor the DLC have the power to remove Dean

[trumad]

Howards got the backing of 50 states, the net roots, grassroots, blogs, DU, etc.

Carville and his clan are just flexing what little muscle they have just to see what pops.

[fooj]

1. An act of desperation to be sure.

[emulatorloo]

2. Of course he is -- Carville is irrelevant.

And the muscle in that family belongs to Mary Matalin.

GO DR.DEAN

[BR_Parkway]

3. After Tuesday's resounding defeat? Oh wait, we won it all, thanks to

Dr Dean. It wasn't the typical DLC run election. What are those idiots thinking sometimes?

[gully]

10. I know isn't it amazing. We won HUGE and people are STILL bitching

about Dean. WTF?

[PBass]

4. I must have missed this story

Is Carville threatening Dean somehow? That's just ludicrous. We just won big, this week, and Dean played a huge part.

It's only 2 days later and Carville is actually trying to backstab Dean?

[Fovea]

11. A little leadership from the well, leadership

would go a long way here.\

I think Reid and Pelosi would do well to make the DLC and their pundits do a little reality check.

[Old and In the Way]

5. He's become a sock puppet for his wife.

When he's not matching up the socks after he's done the laundry.

[SmokingJacket]

6. Seriously though: who DOES have this power? nt

[Sadie5]

7. Carville Ugh!

He should have joined the Repug party long ago.

[madfloridian]

8. The 400 plus DNC members throughout the states who elected him.

Until the 08 campaign for president, when supposedly that person whoever it will be will have the power to oust him for their own person.

Now, that said. Business as usual is changing so much, that it is really hard to say.

[SmokingJacket]

9. Thank you for that.

I have to admit my head is spinning at the last week's developments. We win, and suddenly the Democrats are at war with each other?

Honest to God, I didn't think I could get any more cynical, but Carville's comments have really just blown me away.

[madfloridian]

12. I know how you feel. But I am not surprised.

Things are changing in the party so much. I think it is one reason that those of us who have been on board with Howard Dean from early in 03 are so often made fun of here and other Democratic sites...though to be honest it is not so often now.

We have been accused of hero worship, idolatry, when it was nothing like that at all. He had a vision for the party to change, and we shared it. It doesn't even bother me anymore. What he is doing will spread the power base outside of DC, and there are many who don't like that. Here is what he was saying very early in 2003...so this is nothing new. It is just now taking wings, really. It won't be easy.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/494

""I have never lost an election. But my career has never been about winning elections. My career in this campaign is about changing the Democratic Party, it's about changing America, and this campaign is about taking back the White House so we can have health insurance, so we can have a balanced budget, so we can have an inclusive society where everybody believes in each other and believes in America."

"We are not going to beat George Bush by voting with the president 85% of the time. The only way we will beat George Bush is to stand up and say who we are, to lift up a Democratic agenda against the Republican agenda, because if you do that the Democratic agenda wins every time."

Video from his early speech is there also.

[SmokingJacket]

13. I've been a Deaniac since the first time I heard him speak.

It was easy to tell he had more brains, nerve, and integrity than anyone in Washington.

I will be thoroughly crushed if his good work is marginalized.

[Depth1]

15. Dean...

<http://www.depthaudio.com/Dean.htm>

[INdemo]

14. The DLC is dead

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. Carville jumped the shark

to irrelevance.

[Fleshdancer]

17. The more $$$ that goes to the states, the less Carville gets.

No big surprise that an inside the beltway political consultant doesn't like the 50 state strategy. He probably made a killing on consulting fees before Dean screwed it all up for him.