Well Rice is going to have to resign

[NNN0LHI]

Before she is called into an open Congressional investigation by the Dems to have her more fully explain her 911 "traditional hijacking" statement and the PDB entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States" she received.

She will never allow herself to be questioned under oath about this stuff and without the Republicans controlling everything to protect her. She will never put herself in that jeopardy. She will have to walk away. Soon.

Don't forget her famous "mushroom clouds over New York" statement too.

Put a fork in her. She will be leaving before the end of the year.

Don

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. From your keyboard to heaven's ear

[nam78_two]

7. Amen/nt

[Disturbed]

9. Busholini will never allow his Mistress to be dismissed.

He will fight for her to stay. Place your bets.

[Canuckistanian]

40. Like he fought for Harriet Myers?

And she was president of his Fan Club.

[Liberal Gramma]

52. All the evidence points to

the fact that Bush is willing to throw ANYONE under the bus to save his own sorry skin.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

16. make that 2 sweet amens . . . n/t

[sfwriter]

34. From your keyboard to heaven's email inbox? eom

[American Jesus]

36. Oh, Heaven got the message

Trust Me :)

[aquart]

2. Private citizens can't be subpoenaed? Since when?

[NNN0LHI]

8. They can be subpoenaed

They just don't have to cooperate. Unless they are drawing a government check that is.

Don

[Gabi Hayes]

22. if they DON'T, they go to JAIL!

ever heard of the Hollywood Ten?

[NNN0LHI]

32. Ever heard of Ken Lay? He took the fifth and didn't go to jail n/t

[Alexander]

50. That's because of his "heart attack"

He was on his way already.

[NNN0LHI]

55. Lay was never charged for taking the fifth at the Congressional hearings

You are talking about something completely different.

Don

[Dr.Phool]

29. Hopefully, she'll be spending X-mas in Germany with Rummy!

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html

And Alberto, and John Yoo.

I've heard Nuremburg is lovely this time of year.

[malaise]

3. She's probably sending her CV to universities as we

type or seeking some Canadian bacon.

[CottonBear]

4. What an excellent Christmas present that would be. :) n/t

[Richard Steele]

5. Resignation won't make her immune to a Congressional Subpoena. nm

[HamdenRice]

6. Resigning won't prevent her from having to testify ...

either before Congress or at her own criminal trials.

[NNN0LHI]

10. As a private citizen she will just plead the fifth like anyone else n/t

[indepat]

11. Shucks, I wanted to see Condi under oath explaining what specific actions were taken

to thwart a known pending terrorist attack on the US using airplanes. :party:

[NNN0LHI]

You are never going to see that n/t

[cliss]

12. You are probably right.

I LOVE the idea that they are all sweating bullets right now. They are most probably meeting with their attorneys, moving money into Swiss bank accounts....scrambling.

Look at the news about Rumsfailed today. Apparently, there is a slew of paperwork being filed against him.

WOW I never thought I would see the day.:smoke:

[Swamp Rat]

13. Then she better leave the solar system because she WILL be subpoenaed.

[NNN0LHI]

15. She can do the same thing as Ken Lay did as a private citizen

Take the fifth. And that is what she will do.

That or go to jail. Not much of a choice.

Don

[BootinUp]

24. You've really mastered the skin texture in this one.

Just sayin.

;)

[catmandu57]

14. She's toast

Any which way she goes.

[n2doc]

17. She will use her office to hide

As a Private citizen she would be more vulnerable to being forced to testify. So I think she will hide behind Cheney (who will declare that he can't be made to come to congress) and will ignore congress. Then we will see if the new leadership has guts.

[BootinUp]

18. She is one of the most pig headed obstinate persons I

have ever seen. She rivals or possibly surpasses crashcart in her ability to stick to her fucked up stories. I am thinking she will last till the end. I know, what a terrible thought.

[Jacobin]

19. Good points

You may be right.

I'll send a letter of recommendation for her to Bob Jones University where she can chair the Scientific Diplomacy" course. Naturally, she won't be able to date white guys, but hey, there it is.

[eleny]

20. The cartoons are going to be priceless

Figures being pushed off the ship of state. Bush 41's crowd taking charge. It's going to be a good month of choice editorializing with art.

[Old and In the Way]

21. She's a weak link for this administration.

She was scared shitless during the 9/11 Commission hearings. I suspect that if serious investigations get rolling, she'll be lawyering up and negotiating her potential criminal sentence by dropping dimes, quarters, and dollar bills on the key players...Bush, Cheney, and Rummy.

[BlooInBloo]

23. How exactly will resigning insulate her from being ?d under oath?

[NNN0LHI]

26. She will do the same thing as Ken Lay did as a private citizen

Take the fifth on the advice of her attorney.

Don

[BlooInBloo]

28. Can't she do that now? I wasn't aware that Constitutional protections...

... ceased to apply once you accepted a certain job.

[NNN0LHI]

30. She can't do it as long as she is collecting a check from the government

Be like you or I refusing to answer a question our employer asked us. We wouldn't have to answer. But we wouldn't have a job if we didn't.

Don

[BlooInBloo]

33. Ok. So she CAN still claim the 5th. Thanks.

[NNN0LHI]

39. Yes she CAN but not as an employee of the government any longer

Which brings us back to my OP.

Don

[Red Right and BLUE]

25. Let her walk.

She'll still have to answer for her lies.

[Jack Rabbit]

27. She's got a lot to explain

She's just another liar in a regime full of them.

[CatWoman]

31. great minds

:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2669922

[libnnc]

35. Poor Condi--they don't have baby grand pianos in the pokey.

Do they?

[Chomp]

37. So basically

we'll end up with the entire Bush 41 team, except with Junior at the helm this time around?

Sigh...how did it come to pass that this actually sounds like a blessed relief?

[dysfunctional press]

38. how would resigning protect her from anything?

i don't get it...

[zyguh]

42. Pleading the 5th

As Secretary of State (or any other office the President would appoint her too) she legally CANT plead the 5th ammendment. As a private citizen she can.

It means that the only way she can refuse to testify is to resign, or just refuse and go to jail until she does testify. If she is jailed for refusing to testify thats grounds for her to be removed as Secretary of State since she cant perform her duties in prison either.....so really her only choice would be to resign or start talking.

The great thing though, is that once she does resign she's out for good, because if Bush later tried to reappoint her in any capacity, and she started pulling another government paycheck she could be subpeoned again to testify again.

So you know, cross your fingers.........

[jwdeviant]

44. Does that also apply to people drawing gov't pensions?

[autorank]

41. Oh, don't get my hopes up..."never thought" "planes slammed into buildings"

Those are some of the most cynical and criminal words used in the conduct of government anywhere because she knew she was lying to the traumatized survivors of those who died and to an entire nation that needed accurate information. Resignation in disgrace...appropriate.

KR...thoughtful, value added post!

[tavalon]

43. How does her leaving protect her from testifying?

[The Backlash Cometh]

45. I think someone should test her for drugs before she testifies.

Once she figures out that there is no one to protect she'll probably have a melt-down when she testifies -- unless she's medicated.

[radfringe]

46. no resignation until she receives the Death Compliment

Tenant - Good job/Medal of honor and showed the door
Brownie - heckava job and tossed out the window
Rumsfeld - fantastic job and thrown from the train

[Warren Stupidity]

47. Resiging will not prevent the interrogation.

Perhaps that hacienda in paraguay is looking good? Just Condi and George and 10,000 sheep.

[jazzjunkysue]

48. Foreign governments won't even meet her. Useless to us.

Her only objective was to further the neocon agenda. She's done with that, now.

[Lefty48197]

49. Contbelieveya Rice

Please resign for the good of the nation and the world.

[Mme. Defarge]

51. I think we haven't heard from her lately

because she is currently in Paraguay looking at architectural plans for her villa in the "compound."

[flying_wahini]

53. I personally think that she will stick around for the show, Then resign.

She won't leave unless she Absolutely has to, her whole persona
is wrapped up in her position and yes, she is very stubborn - and frankly, not
that bright.
Then, IMHO, she will quit, skip off and make everyone scramble and jump
through flaming hoops to get her back for testimony, then plead the 5th.
and by the way, I think she has ice water in her veins, for what it is worth.
I hope she and the beltway boys are ALL losing a lot of sleep.
I keep seeing her leaning forward, bottom lip stuck out, blinking that sourpuss
stare.

[Imagevision]

54. Rice, like Bush, without power? - she too must tread lightly these days...

Ms. would be better staying busy shoe-shopping or perhaps concentrate on her piano accomplishments.