"Poltergeists in the White House" a commentary about Iran/Contra being BACK

[symbolman]

PLEASE KICK THIS and Spread the WORD. We need to Cut this OFF at the Knees and NOW.

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"Poltergiest in the White House?" by Symbolman of Takebackthemedia.com

I'm getting a picture in my mind.

It's that scene so famous in the Poltergiest movie where the little girl is kneeling in front of the TV between channels and saying, "They're HERE.."

Why?

Because they ARE HERE. Pay Attention. The "Poppyists" are BACK. Daddy Bush is sneaking in the back door of the White House, as Rummy flees through the front.

While we are all warm and fuzzy as Democrats, watching the TV Media honk like a gaggle of geese hot on the trail of a young boy's ass who wandered into the goose pen, the Bush Senior team is committing a 'silent coup' in our Govt.

Bush junior, that little waste product who runs companies into the ground and broke every toy ever given to him, is Relinquishing our Govt to his FATHER.

They are using the Bush Family FIXER to run a number down on the American people, and no one is paying attention. All of a sudden the Iran/Contra folks are showing up in DROVES, including their old buddy Daniel Ortega ( http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/08/MNGCCM81DS1.DTL&type=printable ) who just happened to show up on the old boob tube the other day, running for office again, as a Compassionate Contra.

Gates, Eagleburger, the same old crew. We're being traded out by the NeoCons for the old school Iran/Contra Team. So now we are supposed to Cheer that Baker will SAVE America? That the old family fixer is going to change juniors Diapers for us? Not a chance.

Doesn't anyone remember that James Baker orchestrated one of the biggest frauds in American History in Florida? Sent by Bush Senior as the "FIXER" once again.

And while the Media prattles on, "Gee whiz, we can't believe the American people just don't like the Right anymore. How could they settle for 'no plan' Democrats?" and STILL showing their Right Wing bent, we are all celebrating getting our Govt BACK from the Gang that couldn't Shoot Straight.

Well, while we're doing that, the Bush Senior Crew is descending like Vultures to tear away the game from the Idiot Son who has mauled it, but was never one to Clean his Plate, being born with a silver spoon in his Snout.

And that GAME is US.

No one recalls that Baker's Law firm was Hired BY the Saudis to REPRESENT THEM AGAINST the Families of the Victims of 911? ( http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1090180166698 ) Can you stomach THAT? I Can't. And I WON'T.

Isn't it ODD that he should do that? Isn't it ODD that MOST of the Terrorists according to THIS government were of Saudi Origin?

Doesn't that Represent a 'Conflict of Interest' in ANYONE'S mind? Does the Media report this?

Nope.

Should you know this?

Yep.

Let's just imagine these OIL MEN controlling or being controlled BY Saudis WHILE Baker, who has been put in charge of the world Forgiving Iraq Debt. (Code, slicing up the Iraq Oil Pie for his pals), having a foot in BOTH rather large Pools of OIL.

All while the Media just keep slapping it's head in disbelief over the election and letting us all know that WE voted FOR Conservatives, and NOT just because we hate Bush for killing our sons and daughter's for OIL (which he now admits to, that it WAS all about the Oil), and the enrichment of all those "Tooth to Tail" Military Reconstructionists, hiring corporations who DO NOT take an Oath to "serve and protect this country against enemies both WITHIN and without".

Firing Rummy and pinning War Crimes on him is just a Freakshow compared to what Bush Senior's pals have in store for us. It's part of the Three Card Monty game being played out before our eyes while the Media LOOKS THE OTHER WAY.

So now there are new noises banging around in the White House. New Ghosts, but familiar ones to anyone who remembers the Iran/Contra days. That KNOCKING you hear in the White House is not just Bush Junior's Knees. It's the Ghosts of Christmas past, and they do not come bearing Gifts. No. They're slithering down the chimney to steal all the presents under the TREE. They've done it before.

And they got away with it then. Let's not let them get away with it NOW.

They represent a nice big package, all tied in a BOW, running all the way back to when Baker assisted in the heist of the election, through 911 and right on up to the present invasion of the Poppyists.

Spread the word. INFORM the MEDIA. Demand ANSWERS about Baker and crew. Arm the Democrats. Tell them THIS WILL NOT STAND.

We did not vote in historic numbers just to have Bush "little boots" Junior throw up his hands and run crying to his daddy, dropping the mano a mano tough guy hysteria, and all of his broken TOYS, our Brothers and Sisters in Arms. In HARMS WAY because of HIM. Standing there in Iraq right NEXT to Halliburton thugs getting paid 5 times what they make, treated as McTroops by the Bush Junior Admin, and screwed on the way home by the defunding of the Veteran's Administration on the tail end.

We voted to THROW THE BUMS OUT.

And now they're sneaking in the back door. Be forwarned. They are SMOOTHER than any Oil slick Bush Junior has admired with Poppy, and like the Middle East folks like to say, "Don't let a Camel get it's nose in your tent. If you do, soon YOU will be sleeping outside, and the camel will have your bed."

[porphyrian]

1. Oh, you definitely get a kick for this. - n/t

[symbolman]

2. Thanks!

Jesus, I fell out of the sky in a chopper over Alaska SLOWER than this thread is dropping :)

C'mon People, THIS can make a difference, THIS needs to be known!

[blm]

57. It's getting a kick from me, patriot!

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[WarNoMore]

3. k&r

I'll never forget, a couple of nights after the 2000 election, when Baker appeared on tv and started the recount mantra. He was calling out the hounds of hell, giving signals as to the next move by the repugs. I don't even know why I use that expression, but it has stayed with me since. I felt such a terrible sense of foreboding.

[symbolman]

6. Yeah

I had to go into the bathroom when the handed it to Bush. I very nearly puked, and saw all of this coming.

I told my 14 year old son, "This man will start a war that you might be forced to die in.. I was drafted in 71 and I don't want it happening to YOU.."

So I started Takebackthemedia.com and we've been fighting like hell.

Now we have the SLEAZE factor and people need to OUT THEM and NOW before this slime takes hold.

THanks for sharing, I'm with you on that..

[Richard Steele]

4. 5th Rec! Nice metaphor. nm

[sutz12]

5. Big K & R on this one.

Stealth coup in the works? I wouldn't put it past them.

I suppose some will be thankful the place will be run by some "real" Republicans. :puke:

[omega minimo]

7. So what's yer point?

:yourock: Symbolman :yourock:

[symbolman]

25. I'm trotting out my new kine of Tin Foil hats

and the best part is that they are STEALTH Tin Hats, Invisible to the Naked Eye :)

Thanks so much, just giving it all a little thought, when a right winger tells me to Look UP, I immediately figure he's got a pal tying my shoelaces together.. :)

[omega minimo]

27. "The Clothes Have No Emperor"

published in the 80's, collection of photos, flubs and news articles from the Reagan daze, dedicated by the author:

"For those who were paying attention."

[Mythsaje]

8. C'mon Symbolman

Manuel Ortega?

Do you mean Daniel Ortega? Or Manuel Noriega? Are you confused?

I REALLY wish people wouldn't do stuff like this. Not on our side, at least.

Crap like this bugs me as much as seeing a sign at work that says "Please take you old food out of the fridge."

Makes me crazy.

It makes the salient points you're making next to worthless, in my opinion.

[symbolman]

12. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater

but thanks.. I'll fix it where I can.

There, fixed. appreciate the catch. I'm not a pro, and am tired, sorry about that.

[Mythsaje]

15. No, you make good points.

I lived through Iran/Contra and wanted to vomit on a regular basis. I KNEW they were lying. My BS meter was going into overdrive.

It doesn't hurt to remind people of all of that. But when I read "Manuel Ortega," I was like "What?" "Who?"

One was an enemy of the regime--the other was a patsy. Is this their love child? :D

[demobabe]

13. It's a typo.

He meant Daniel, the link says Daniel - he'll fix it. People make mistakes. It's okay.

[rubberducky]

9. Oh,yeahhhh. Spread the word!

Too many people either were not around then or some may have forgotten the names. These are TRULY bad people. k&r

[ToolTex]

10. "And argue how we did it."

This was their plan all along. The Nicaraguan law was changed during Rove's Rule, (and surely with the help of the CIA), to require only 35 percent to elect presidents, without runoff. Ortega could never have been elected without this little fix five years ago. (They can always count on 35 percent of any electorate to be insane sheep and vote what they want to believe; Nicaragua or here).

They always have to have their enemies to be afraid of and fight, and it is always better, (more controllable), if they are supported by the CIA. Just like Saddam was when they set him up.

[upi402]

11. Remember what cons said about HILLARY? -not elected.

crybabies. phonies. criminals. perverts. torturers. murderers.

(But maybe if we act right they'll be nice to us)

[ismnotwasm]

14. Oh god I was thinking something similar

When I was arguing with my Dad today (repuke--we get in some good ones, but he has no ammo left)

But count them up, one very frightening group of amoral criminals. Seriously.

[lapfog_1]

16. How long before we send Ollie North to Iran

to broker a deal to trade nukes for "hostages" (150,000 trapped in Iraq).

[GliderGuider]

17. Oh Yeah. K&R

I remember the sensation in the pit of my stomach when I realized who Robert Gates was, and the significance of his appearance on the scene. I agree we're watching a stealth coup here. This isn't just Poppy getting Junior out of another jam. This isn't a frat-house league, it's the bigs. These boys are sharks.

[ToolTex]

19. And remember that Bob Gates was already on the Baker Commission.

RIght where he needed to be. How convenient.

[Boo Boo]

18. The admin already had Iran Contra types, and Ortega is

not a Contra for crying out loud. Obviously, Iran Contra types are synonomous with the name Bush. If they weren't involved in the conspiracy, they were involved in covering it up. They're everywhere. For instance: Robert Mueller, head of the FBI, Iran Contra coverup artist.

You know the movie "Six Degrees of Separation?" Well there ain't more than two degrees of separation between anybody in the Bush political family and Iran Contra. Conspiracy theories are easy to come by in that kind of target rich environment.

[troubleinwinter]

20. Yes, the old ghosts keep coming back. Thanks, Symbolman for making noise! & recommended.

[LeahD]

21. They've been the men behind the curtain all along.

It's just that the veil has lifted now for all to see.

[Canuckistanian]

22. I briefly noted the same point earlier - although less eloquently here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2681610&mesg_id=2681679

If there's one major difference between the neocons and the Poppyists - it's that the old-timers are slicker, more experienced and they really know how to keep their mouths shut.

But you're right. ALL of them need to be thrown out. For good.

[Lugnut]

23. K&R

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana

[demobabe]

24. kick!

:kick:

[madmax]

26. The nightmare never ends!! n/t

[snot]

28. It'll be a struggle, until we REFORM THE MEDIA. --

The media didn't cover Iran Contra then, and they're even more useless now.

[AntiFascist]

50. I'll bet the major fear is their suppliers would be cut off...

imagine how Maher would react!

:hide:

[fooj]

29. "Poppyists"...good one.

We voted to THROW THE BUMS OUT.

You would never know by this crew.

I'm sick of this bullshit. These rat bastards never sleep. Damn them.
:grr:

[symbolman]

32. There was SOME coverage

I mean they trotted out Ollie North with his UNIFORM on, milking it for all he had, quavering voice and all.

Hell, didn't the head "Poppyist", Bush Senior Himself actually PARDON HIMSELF for Iran/Contra?

I KNOW he pardoned drug runners that were supposed to do a 100 years in federal Pens, and gee, that Willie Horton ad, that was just a SCREAM, wasn't it?

Laying that PsychoSexual Racist bullshit on the american public to get elected, at least Atwater got what he deserved, a nice juicy Brain Tumor, which I wouldn't wish on just about anyone, well maybe a few in this Govt.

Ass Cancer would be good too :)

Serious Criminal Drug runners we got here, and if Carlyle OWNS the Ports, and the Saudis are their Pals and PROTECTED LEGALLY by Baker, then WHO KNOWS what the hell they'll bring into this country? Nukes maybe..

These guys would make 911 look like a Picnic if they wanted to, and the Media, well, they'd have another BIG STORY to make them happy and take the heat off of the Tard Son of Bush Senior.

We won, but it just got scarier, the ante has been UPPED and many don't realize it. Too young to know I guess, and THAT is why they draft 18 year olds...

Yeah, they never sleep, because there's too many of them I think :)

[fooj]

41. It's up to us to educate the Americans who don't "get" this...

You are absolutely 100% correct to state that the ante has been "upped"...

Those of us who DO REMEMBER know this is a RED FLAG alert. They may never sleep...but either do WE!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Keep spreading the word. I'll help in any way that I can.:patriot:

[Swamp Rat]

30. YOU NAILED IT!

[OneBlueSky]

31. kicked . . . and highly recommended . . . thanx . . . n/t

.

[Karenina]

33. This cannot be repeated too often!

:kick:

[texpatriot2004]

34. K & R nm

[snappyturtle]

35. K&R Great analogy...the poltergiests.......n/t

[MasonJar]

36. James Baker is pond scum as he proved in 2000. I have my

doubts about Hamilton also.

[jimshoes]

52. James Baker

is Poppy's "Rove", and he's just as evil. As in an "iron fist in a velvet glove" kind of way.

[symbolman]

53. I saw that film 200 motels just last night

I STILL don't 'get it' and I've seen it probably 8 times :)

I watch it mainly for the JAM whenever Zappa does a lead, he was one of the BEST lead guitarists of his time, maybe not the best but certainly had a unique style I enjoyed, and that guy from the TURTLES had one of the best voices in the WORLD in those days, his harmonies were exquisite..

If only we had Zappa here to run, i was going to help PUSH for him for Prez then he went up and died on us, a shame.

But the MUDSHARKS are still with us, and the Bush Admin are the Weasels that want to rip my face :)

[jimshoes]

64. Me and my best buddy at the time

this was in the early 70's, used to get stoned a bit :hippie: and see the movie at the theater. There were usually only 15 to 20 people at any given showing but they used to run it with Alice's Restaurant as a double feature. The whole movie is really all about Frank's take on his bandmates and their neverending search for pussy. I have the video my bud bought me a few years ago and I watch the damn thing a lot. I dig the music and the visuals, and there really isn't much of a plot or anything. I think Frank just wanted to get some of his classical arrangements on film too. Edit to say, yeah I miss him too. Wish like hell he were still around. He was very hip politically although I never appreciated that at the time. Also Flo And Eddie are still playing around doing Turtles stuff. They did a gig in Cleveland this past summer at the Moondog Coronation Ball one of the local radio stations puts on.

[bobbieinok]

71. wasn't Hamiloton on the JFK coverup commission?????

[riderinthestorm]

37. K &R.

The stakes are getting raised in this game. Are Pelosi, Reid, and Durbin up for this? Will the Clintons stand aside and finally allow some of the darkness that is/has been bubbling in the WH to be exposed?

[jazzjunkysue]

38. K&R. What do you suppose they have in the works? Any guesses?

I only vaguely remember Iran Contra. I know Ollie was guilty and pardoned.

What do you suppose they're going to do? Start the war with Iran? I know someone who knows somewone who works in a military equipment manufacturer, and the word is Isreal is getting ready to attack Iran.

What do you all think about that? Possible? Ridiculous?

What will these old Nixon boys do with the next 2 years before they lose control of the presidency?

[Usrename]

44. I remember that he was given immunity to testify for the Congress.

And then he lied in his testimony. I was thinking that he was not pardoned like some of the others, but the courts decided to honor his immunity agreement, even though he was a total liar and traitor.

Some other names I remember that are all working for this administration: Eliot Abrams - John Negroponte - John Poindexter - Otto Reich; I'm pretty sure that all of these guys were convicted on conspiracy related charges, and then pardoned.

Some folks say we're not wrapped too tight when we start talking about all the different conspiracies. It's as if Iran/Contra never happened and these criminal conspirators do not exist. Only, they do exist, and they are back at work for this administration.

[symbolman]

49. Dunno, something BAD though :)

I don't think they could help a little old lady across the street without stealing her purse :)

They are using Isreal as a shell country, give them all they need to POUND on someone and then tell everyone if THEY touch Isreal when WE will turn them into GLASS..

Keeps their hands clean until they need to go to the bank, the OIL BANK, and kill anyone that gets in the way.

I hope there is a GOD, I really do.

[AntiFascist]

55. I've read that Iran-Contra should more properly be called...

"Iraq-Contra" which might explsin more about the current mess.

[omega minimo]

39. Gates OBL link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2958856

[symbolman]

42. Thanks for that

There's also the BCCI link, a scummy money laundering operations world wide, beginning to think that CONGRESS needs to investigate the whole Iraq war as a Huge Money Laundering Operation and apply RICCO statutes to it, put these bastards in JAIL for this,,

[omega minimo]

47. Thanks for all your work This quibbling is such BS

Someone comparing impeachment to a joke about fucking cows....... porphyrian asked "How many times do we have to post the same information?"


If there's not already one, maybe the Research Forum needs an Impeachment Thread-- people interested in actual information (vs. pulling opinions and strategery out of their rectums) could go there :think:



This election eve, just like the one in 2004, I end up in discussion with a slacker-aged male who doesn't vote. "The system doesn't work, it's too big, they don't do what I think they should do (even tho when you ask me that I don't have an answer), the votes don't count, why bother, better things to do, there's no difference b/w the parties, corporations run everything, the system has to play out and we start over (even tho when you ask me I don't know how or with what)..................................."

So while trying to hear him explain -- actually explain -- ANYTHING actually -- and hearing him say "I don't BELIEVE in it" I kept seeing in mind's eye your film ( :applause: ) of DSM Basement Hearings. Joe Wilson and Ray McGovern sitting there and playing the game the way it HAS to be played... no matter what they know and how justified there anger may be, they don't say Fuck It, they sit there and calmly discuss BY THE RULES AND IN THE TERMS THAT THE SYSTEM PROVIDES FOR AND DEMANDS the matter being investigated. They were dignified, they were calm, they were fighting and kicking ass. THAT is how the system DOES work. When good people fight for Truth and Justice and MAKE the system work.

Knowing how much these men (and Cindy Sheehan sitting b/w them) had been BETRAYED by the system they gave lifetime service to made watching them testify that much more striking.

The DUer who aspires to fucking ALL the cows is right and so are my non-voting buddies-- the system is a joke. And only by jumping in there and nudging and guiding and kicking it can it be formed to resemble what the Founders intended. If we do not make it work by particpating and honoring those intentions, it is WE, The People, who are the joke.


:rant:

[w4rma]

40. Bush is just acting like the little child that he is and running back to his daddy, again. (nt)

[mmonk]

43. Amen Symbolman. As usual.

[symbolman]

45. Thanks so much

Spread the word, FORCE the media to talk about this, alert Congress and get this out in the OPEN, that's all I want, not for Gates to sail on IN..

Like Tapeworms, it's better to NOT get one in the first place than to try and get rid of them once entrenched in the colon :)

[volstork]

46. kick

[bobthedrummer]

48. Yep, it's still BFEE. They've got to go.

Here's a cross-link to consider

"Gates is Poppy's guy-this takes us to another data-dumping thread"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2665635

[symbolman]

51. THAT is a GREAT Thread

LOTS of goodies there, even RECENT articles by Contra Players laying it all out, I thought many of those guys were DEAD, at least the good guys :)

Thanks for the link, very good info there..

[blm]

60. symbolman - Parry is letting us post his commentary IN FULL - do so at TBTM.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2690322

[roody]

54. k

[SpiralHawk]

56. Don't want no stinkin drug-running republicons at the White House

Stop the drugs for arms republicons. Throw the crooks out.

KIQUE, as the French might very well say if they did not know how to speak French.

[HooptieWagon]

58. Ortega was NOT a Contra!

"... including their old buddy Daniel Ortega ( http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/200... ) who just happened to show up on the old boob tube the other day, running for office again, as a Compassionate Contra."

Daniel Ortega was a Sandinista, opposed by the Contras. Reagan mined Nicaraguan harbors, and sent money, arms, and trainers (Iran-Contra) to the Contras in an illegal effort to drive the leftist Sandinistas from power. So Ortega was definately not a buddy of Reagan/Poppy.

[symbolman]

68. I was just bringing up how people move to the center

Like Bush claiming to be a compassionate Conservative, etc.

The whole Chameleon THING where these guys try to make us think they're something they're not.

But you're right, messed up there, should have woke my wife up and had her edit it more, but she's too young to remember, and I guess I'm getting old enough to forget :)

Thanks for pointing that out, don't want to make bad guys out of the wrong folks..

[Little Star]

59. You are so right! K&R

[suegeo]

61. Iran Contra Alumni in Bush Gov't

This is from way back at the start of the 2000 junta. The AP ran an article on all the douche bags from Iran Contra that Shrub put in:

John Poindexter
Elliott Abrams
Otto Reich
Richard Armitage
John Negroponte
Mitch Daniels

I think the date of the article (I only have hard copy) was March 13 (weds) and it was by the AP, so maybe a lexis-nexis search could turn up the original piece. It listed each scum bag, and what each scum bag was doing for the 2000 junta, and what each scum bag did back for Iran-contra.

I think some of the other douche bags are back too:
Gorbanifar
Khassoghi (sp?)
I think Chalabi, might have been involved too.
And some guy got whacked (died unexpectedly of a heart attack. ) in Korea. Hakim??
And the guy who Ollie North claimed was after him, so Ollie had to build a fence and spend lots of cash so Ollie said, was killed at the start of the illegal invasion of Iraq in 03.

P-U. I sort of read about Iran-Contra and the gist I got was, Reagan ran a war that congress said "HELL NO" to. Congress did not fund it, so Reagan financed it on the side (Arms for hostages, Gigaloes for old ladies called the "blue rinse brigade") It was completely illegal and they did it anyway. And it went all the way to the "top" Bush Sr. who really ran everything anyway. He was never out of the loop.

Then the chimp came along and buried all the papers, so we'd never know all the crap they pulled.

Back then the losers in congress knew they were dealing with rats at the top, but they decided not to go after all the "big fish" (big turds) because they didn't want to destroy the country. Thanks alot for nothing losers, we got stuck with with Bush II, 911, and all the resulting crap, body parts, blood gore, etc.

If there were a lesson to be learned for the white pasty guys in congress, I guess it is: Nip that shit in the Bud.

[ninkasi]

62. Thanks, Symbolman

I keep forgetting that much of the voting public were so young during Iran/Contra, and might not be fully aware of how dangerous and destructive the elder Bush's crew can be. You're right, we need to get rid of them, before the Bush infection changes from one strain of a virus to another. Both are deadly, and both can be fatal.

[elehhhhna]

63. GW has outsourced the office of The President of the US to Carlyle Group.

It's the ultmate privatisation scheme.

[BeHereNow]

65. HELL YES Symbolman! Kicked and recommended!

It's unbelievable, isn't it?
The shadow government has just stepped into the center stage spotlight
and no one even whimpers!

They have pulled the curtain back and are no longer
hiding.

People should be terrified, but alas, no one in the media
has uttered a peep about the fact that the most dangerous
men in the world are now deciding the future of the world.

Frankly, the line up scares the hell out of me and what
is even scarier is the fact that they are no longer hiding
but operating blatantly in front of our very eyes.

Lordy, this does not bode well for the future.

BHN

[Horse with no Name]

66. K&R

Most excellent. :thumbsup:

[Jcrowley]

67. bump

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

69. Came Off To Me As If You Were Trying To Emanate Will Pitt LOL.

Need a lot more practice though. :P

[troubleinwinter]

70. Or maybe the other way around???

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

72. Nope. Definitely Not

:rofl:

[kerstin]

73. They have no intention of ever leaving Iraq,

or relinquishing their phantasm of a unitary executive, quasi-police state "Homeland." Why else would they nominate a recycled BCF/CIA malefactor to "solve" the problem of Iraq rather than someone from within the military ranks? And why is the mainstream media now suddenly casting Bush the Elder as a larger than life, "presidential" figure swooping in to undo the misdeeds of his stumblebum of a son? It seems to me it wasn't so long ago that it was the son being touted as the the more "natural leader" of the two and thus "truer successor to Reagan," while the father was considered a somewhat less than manly pretender to the throne.

[symbolman]

74. Kick

for the folks that missed this thread over the weekend :)