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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:00 AM
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Fundies' reactions with Ted Haggard vs., let's say, Bill Clinton
Why are the fundies so eager to forgive Ted Haggard for what he did yet so adamantly opposed to forgiving Bill Clinton for his sexual mistakes? Is it simply because Haggard's a Republican and Clinton's a Democrat?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:02 AM
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1. definitely. n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:10 AM
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6. Bill Clinton and Monica is no longer a big thing
We can call out Foley and Haggerd. The fundies realize this. Please, give them some credit. They aren't our enemy.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:51 AM
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10. Bill Clinton and Monica is no longer a big thing until...
The republicans find a use for them; say if Hillary runs for president or Chelsea runs for office, any office. If that happens look for them to resurrect Bill's affair.

I have never understood their hatred for Clinton. He's probably the modern equivalent of King David who they revere.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:54 AM
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11. Let them try
Hillary and Chelsea did no wrong and forgave Bill.
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:12 PM
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13. They're not our enemy, that much is true.
But when the Clinton thing happened, they weren't on the forefront calling for forgiveness, either.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:04 AM
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2. Hypocrisy explains it to me
Other than that, I don't have any idea. They definitely have a double standard.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:04 AM
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3. I think the fundies have been totally turned off by Foley
and Haggard and the GOP. See www.frc.org
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:20 AM
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7. interesting. I emailed Coral Ridge ministries on the 4th
I told them that their associating with Bush and Coulter was indefensible. I probably won't hear back from them anyway, but let's see if they change their behaviour.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:30 AM
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9. That took some guts
Once, I E-mailed a Scopes article to Jerry Falwell's E-mail at TRBC that basically demolished the whole "the Ten Commandments are on our federal building" myth.
Ringo
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:05 AM
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4. Yup!
Just like the repukes want us to be nice and bipartisan NOW--they hold Dems to standards they themselves find unnecessary because of their inherent "moral superiority." WE have to play nice because they're REALLY right. They weren't bipartisan because THEY ARE RIGHT.

As for the fundies, Haggart isn't really that big of a deal because he finds his actions "repulsive" and besides, he's on their side, so he can't really be that bad. OR, he doesn't REALLY represent what they're all about and is an aberration. They'll justify anything. Cognitive dissonance is what fundie-ism is all about.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:06 AM
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5. It's certainly a mystery.
Are they really so eager to forgive him, or they mostly embarrassed for him? In either case, I can't explain their behavior. I simply don't unerstand their style of "reasoning".
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:28 AM
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8. they are PARTISAN CHRISTIANS
AKA F***ING HYPOCRITES.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:58 AM
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12. It is the fact that the Clintons represent power
and authority that they don't have. It drives them crazy that the Clintons are well liked and respected, despite Bill's sexual transgressions, and the repukes can't control them.

The Clintons are outsiders to their power base, the haves and have mores. To the repukes, the Clintons represent the peasantry daring the King. The real power brokers among the repukes were born to money, power and privilege. They were born into the right kind of family. The Clintons were not.

Yet despite the Clinton's poor beginnings, they are powerful and well loved. They know that the Clinton's success is admired because of that poor beginning. The repukes know what an attractive symbol the Clintons represent to poor and working class families. They don't want those upstarts thinking power is for the little people. Repukes have to attack Clinton to keep the little people in their place.
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