I read a thread with a few posts on DU on Wed or Thurs.......

[TheDebbieDee]

that proposed that, with a big enough majority, the Democrats might be able to expunge Former President Bill Clinton's impeachment from the Congressional Record.

Does anybody remember this thread?

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Why Bother?

He absolutely lied under oath. It was not the best thing to impeach over - but it was a felony.

[RC]

3. Hog wash.

The "Lie" Clinton told had absolutely nothing to do with the case at hand.
If you or I had done the same thing in the same situation, nothing would have been done about it because the "Lie" broke no rule or law. If no law was broken then how could it be a felony. You are spouting republicon spin.

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Uh... No.

A lie under oath is a lie under oath. It is a felony.

He could have told the truth. He could have refused to answer, on the grounds that you cited. But he chose to lie.

It was probably the dumbest impeachment in history - but the grounds were valid, and the Congress decided to not convict.

Impeaching Bush, however, would be the smartest impeachment ever.

[RC]

6. The "Lie" was told in a Civil court case.

I stand by my statement. It did not apply to the case at hand.
Clinton's impeachment was a continuation of the right-wing's railroad spin job. Why? Because Clinton being elected stalled the neocon's plans in the middle east. Remember those WMD that Saddam was supposed to have had? Well he had them in the mid 1990's. Clinton delayed their plans for 8 to 10 years. They were trying to get Clinton out of the way so they could continue with their plans. Connect the dots.

[Make7]

8. The Article that passed was for perjury before a Federal grand jury.

Edited to remove unintended emoticon

Article I

In his conduct while President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has willfully corrupted and manipulated the judicial process of the United States for his personal gain and exoneration, impeding the administration of justice, in that:

On August 17, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton swore to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth before a Federal grand jury of the United States. Contrary to that oath, William Jefferson Clinton willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony to the grand jury concerning one or more of the following:

(1) the nature and details of his relationship with a subordinate Government employee;

(2) prior perjurious, false and misleading testimony he gave in a Federal civil rights action brought against him;

(3) prior false and misleading statements he allowed his attorney to make to a Federal judge in that civil rights action; and

(4) his corrupt efforts to influence the testimony of witnesses and to impede the discovery of evidence in that civil rights action.

http://www.cnn.com/.../articles.of.impeachment/article1.html

That Article was approved by the House 228 - 206. (source)

And regarding Saddam:

(NARRATOR:) ... in June of 1996, Washington took secret action. The White House ordered the CIA to organize a coup d'etat.

FRANK ANDERSON, CIA Near East Division Chief (1991-1994): [1999] It's frequently the case that the CIA is called upon to develop some kind of a covert action program in response to intractable and maybe even insoluble problems that confront the government.

NARRATOR: But in Baghdad, a special unit of Iraqi intelligence had studied every coup of the 20th century. Saddam Hussein was ready.

   -snip-

TARIQ AZIZ, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister: [1999] They don't know the officers in the army. How could they manage a coup d'etat, a military coup d'etat? Whom do they know? Hmm?

NARRATOR: The plotters were told that America would recognize them as Iraq's new leaders. They were given special mobile phones with direct lines to the CIA. But Saddam had penetrated the coup. His agents burst into homes across Baghdad. They tortured and executed hundreds of officers. Then they found the CIA's phones. An Iraqi intelligence officer placed a call. An American agent answered. He was told, "Your men are dead. Pack up and go home."

http://www-c.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/etc/script.html

That failed coup attempt may or may not be relevant to your viewpoint, but it is an interesting bit of history from the mid 1990's nonetheless.

- Make7

[Vidar]

9. He lied under oath on an admittedly trivial matter. Let it stand.

[Barnaby]

2. That would be the Ministry of Truth thread.

[newyawker99]

7. Hi Barnaby!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[ContraBass Black]

4. With the things that need to be done to save this country,

That should be so low on the priority list that it never happens.