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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:43 AM
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Well I didn't know bout this...Robert = Trojan Horse Gates
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 09:57 AM by Buttercup McToots
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/101106Gates.htm


Rumsfeld replacement (Robert Gates) was director of voting company
Bev Harris
Online Journal
Friday, November 10, 2006
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld will resign, reportedly to be replaced by former CIA director Robert Gates. Did you know that Robert Gates was involved in the voting machine industry?

Gates was on the Board of Directors of VoteHere, a strange little company that was the biggest elections industry lobbyist for the Help America Vote Act (HAVA). VoteHere spent more money than ES&S, Diebold, and Sequoia combined to help ram HAVA through. And HAVA, of course, was a bill sponsored by convicted Abramoff pal Bob Ney and K-street lobbyist buddy Steny Hoyer. HAVA put electronic voting on steroids.

Click here for copies of the VoteHere lobbying forms.
I can't get them to save to pdf, perhaps you can. Enter search terms in both "registrant" and "client" fields and put in terms "Rhoads" "Livingston" and "Votehere" (one at a time.). Then look at the gravy train while it was in the process of derailing American democracy.

I first became acquainted with VoteHere when I met a source, Dan Spillane, who is the wonderful guy that identified the Diebold source code modules for me after I found the Diebold files. He is the person who introduced me, and subsequently everyone else, to the odd role of The Election Center and R. Doug Lewis in the elections industry.
Spillane filled me in on The Livingston Group, VoteHere lobbyists, run by Bob Livingston -- the fellow that Hustler publisher Larry Flynt outed during the Bill Clinton blow job days. Larry Flynt offered a million dollars to anyone who could out a Republican congressman for adultery, and out popped peccadillos by Livingston.

Livingston couldn't live that one down, so he resigned his post as House Speaker-elect and became a lobbyist -- but that's not all! He also launched a group called "Center for Democracy" which was going to "monitor elections." This group also featured several good old boys from the tobacco industry and some mining companies.

Former VoteHere test engineer Dan Spillane was looking into all this because he had been fired after he questioned the certification process on a touch-screen system in which he had identified 250 flaws. It was way back in November 2002 that Spillane told me, "The voting machine industry is a house of cards. And the certification and testing process is the bottom card in the house of cards."
But don't run out of the room to take a shower yet. There's more.

VoteHere, a company shilling cryptographic solutions and filled with NSA types (another director was Admiral Bill Owens), for some reason claims they were unable to prevent themselves from being hacked. In this alleged hack, VoteHere claims that someone stole their source code. Said source code was offered to me, an obvious attempt at entrapment which I refused to touch with a 10-foot pole.

Nevertheless, VoteHere claimed to the newspapers that they had supposedly "tracked" the hacker and had identified the hacker as an activist in the election reform community. For some reason, it was decided that I should be investigated for this "hack" of VoteHere -- nevermind that I can't remember how to change the password on my own laptop. Therefore I was interviewed by the Secret Service several times about this. Curiously, they never seemed to ask any questions about VoteHere, only my role in finding the Diebold files and publishing the Diebold memos.

This nonsense eventually culminated in a gag order and a letter from the U.S. attorney to appear in front of a federal grand jury with information on all the visitors to the Black Box Voting Web site. (As if they couldn't get that in less dramatic ways in post-PATRIOT Act America). Attorney Lowell Finley went to bat for me on this. A reporter named George Howland from the Seattle Weekly got wind of it. When it hit the press, the investigation stopped.

VoteHere never sold any voting machines that I can find, but apparently did set up some deals to embed its cryptography into some voting systems. We found memos in the Diebold trash about VoteHere's crypto-crap, and Maryland Director of Elections Linda Lamone shows up in VoteHere-related letters. Sequoia Voting Systems signed an agreement with VoteHere, but it's not clear to me whether they ever did anything about it.

Robert Gates stepped away from VoteHere shortly before he showed up in Chapter 8 of my book, Black Box Voting, in a short bit about the VoteHere company history.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather use a paper, pencil, and count by hand at the polling place than have former CIA director Robert Gates fooling around with my vote.
But that's just me.

Better?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:47 AM
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1. It would be easier to read with paragraph breaks.
And Gates sounds like bad news to me.

It sounds like this nomination/appointment might be part reward for a job well done (HAVA - well done as far BushCo is concerned) - and part an indication that BushCo intends to go more covert in their activities.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:48 AM
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2. Robert Gates is also a Knight of Malta. n/t
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:52 AM
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3. Should of figured Gates just didn't take up knitting after he left
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 09:54 AM by nolabels
At least we know this gives him a lot more experience on how to run the D.O.D.:sarcasm:

"Approved by Poppy" is all it says on his resume no doubt
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:54 AM
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4. disturbing.
But hard to evaluate the source. Seems a little
paranoid to me.
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:00 AM
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5. I'm a wee bit concerned...
and I have my tin foil hat
next tae me...
but somethin` is afoot...
IMO
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:01 AM
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6. Plus
there can be interesting nuggets
in lots of places...
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:05 AM
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7. thanks for posting this info! I didnt know!
:wow:
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:21 AM
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8. Me either...
I try to find out more...
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:26 AM
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9. mmm Abramoff & Ney....
And HAVA,was a bill sponsored by by convicted Abramoff pal Bob Ney and K-street lobbyist buddy Steny Hoyer.
"Curiouser and curiouser", said Alice
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