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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:43 PM
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Cheney will be next to resign. Otherwise they're looking at President Pelosi.
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 02:50 PM by buddysmellgood
If Cheney steps down with health concerns, Bush can appoint someone uninvolved in the stench (good luck with that). Then Bush will resign and his new VP takes the presidency. If they do not follow this course, both will be forced from office and we'll have President Pelosi. Over the next year, Bushco will sink to record low levels in the polls. The call for resignation will be resounding once the light of day strikes 9-11, the war, Abramoff etc.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:46 PM
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1. From your keyboard
to God/dess' monitor
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:46 PM
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2. Sorry 'bout this... their==>they're
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 02:47 PM by longship
I know... Grammar police!!
Sorry again.

Kicked :kick:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:52 PM
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4. Much appreciated. Thanks.
:hi:
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:54 PM
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8. No prob.
BTW, good post.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:50 PM
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3. I'm afraid that Bush is too addicted to unqualified cronies
to even bother to find someone "uninvolved in the stench." Look at who's he's offering up as a replacement for Bolton--someone who was involved in Iran-Contra and had a reputation for "fixing the facts to fit the policy" when he was involved with the CIA. But if Cheney were to step down, why do you say that Bush would NEED to follow suit?

:headbang:
rocknation
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:53 PM
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5. Poppy Bush and James Baker are conducting their intervention,
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 02:54 PM by meldroc
which is why Rummy was shown the door. Cheney's in big trouble too. I suspect that Bush (Senior, not Junior) would choose John McCain as the new VP, because he has fostered the illusion of being moderate. I do predict that once Cheney starts having "heart problems" and decides to retire, McCain will be brought in quickly, since they don't want Pelosi to be one chicken bone away from the Presidency.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:58 PM
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11. I think you're right. They owe McCain.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:57 PM
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10. If they don't follow this course, they will hand the presidency to Pelosi. I think
what's going to come to light will be so damning that both will have to resign. They need to plan ahead if they want to keep the Whitehouse. That means Cheney must resign now over health concerns.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:16 PM
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14. cool. First woman president, thanks to Bush. Whodathunkit?
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:53 PM
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6. Cheney will stay until the end..
If Cheney resigns he no longer can claim executive immunity form testifying before congress..As much as congress would like to and the majority of the the public want to see it,there just isn't enough time for the impeachment process..there is too much work to do cleaning up the republican mess.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:53 PM
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7. I can't envision the simultaneity...
...of the removals of Bush and Cheney from office that would land Pelosi in the White House. It could be forced, however, if Senate Dems blocked any VP nominee from whomever is acting as the president. With no VP to ascend, then it would go to the Speaker upon the removal of whomever is pres.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:56 PM
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9. Damn! He could put in Jeb!
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 02:56 PM by TheGoldenRule
:scared:

However, if both * & Cheney are being impeached at the same time, * couldn't do anything could he? So it's either impeach right away or forget about it. Otherwise, I wouldn't put it past * to put Jeb or even Laura in that office! Damn! :grr:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:01 PM
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12. Ouch. That's scary. I don't think we'll need to impeach. Just the oversight
hearings will do the damage.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:31 PM
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16. The Federal Anti-Nepotism law
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 03:43 PM by tammywammy
would prevent both Jeb & Laura from being VP.

Just like it prevented Hillary Clinton from becoming a cabinet appointment under Bill.

edited to add:

Here's a link
http://www.archives.gov/about/laws/non-nara-statutes.html

ANTI-NEPOTISM ACT: 5 U.S.C. § 3110

Public Law Number: Pub. L. 90-206, Dec. 16, 1967; Pub. L. 95-454, Oct. 13, 1978
Legislative History: S. Rep. No. 801, H.R. Conf. Rep. No.1013, 1967 U.S. Code Cong. and Adm. News, p. 2258; S. Rep.
No. 95-969, H.R. Conf. Rep. No. 95-1717, 1978 U.S. Code Cong. and Adm. News, p. 2723
Synopsis: A public official is prohibited from employing, appointing, promoting, advancing or advocating for
appointment, employment promotion or advancement any relative for a civilian position in the agency in
which the public official is serving.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:48 PM
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17. Whew, Thank You!
Though anyone * puts in that office will be just as bad...and while scary, it doesn't scare me enough...

I'm still in the Impeach * & Cheney NOW camp.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:02 PM
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19. Just helping. :)
The anti-nepotism law was put on the books after RFK became attorney general.
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blurp Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:07 PM
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22. If force to pick a Repub, I'd go with Jeb.
I'm convinced Barbara Bush must have "gotten lonely" one day while George Senior was away.

Jeb is the only Bush boy worth a damn.


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SutaUvaca Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:48 PM
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24. Poo poo!
Jebbie is an election defrauder. No matter who Babs might have slept with.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:02 PM
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13. Cheney probably...Bush never
I've always held all along that Cheney would step down after the 2004 or 2006 elections so that he could play kingmaker by choosing the new VP to take over and then be the front runner for the 2008 nomination. It's only a matter of time I think. I'll be surprised if CHeney doens't step down for one reason or another within the next year.

Bush though is gonna pull a Grand Moff Tarkin.

"Evacuate? In our moment of trimuph? I think you overestimate their chances!"

Boom.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:08 PM
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23. I've read this reasoning alot on Du today. Probly right.
Cheney hates the job, anyway.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:18 PM
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15. is Harriet Myers around?
maybe she can be the next VP

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:51 PM
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18. I'd Don't Think You Are Very Wrong, But I Don't See It Working That Way Either
George Bush wasn't able to see the loss of the House coming, he didn't see the loss of the Senate coming. I doubt very much he sees impeachment coming.

He won't get any good advice either. Aids and those around him weren't willing to tell him we were losing in Iraq. Apparently he does not greet bad news well. So those same aids and confidants surely aren't going to be willing to tell him he's about to be tossed out onto the street.

So I doubt that any such plans are being made at all and even if they were you need to consider this. No Vice President will be appointed without the advice and consent of the Congress and its held by Democrats. That means that there isn't going to be any appointment of a star-child to be reared up quickly to flower in '08 or '12. We'd let them have a hard working dog, but that's about as far as it would go.

Just my $0.02. Who knows how it will really go ....
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:52 PM
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20. I can't see Cheney giving up his power and immunity from testifying
After the shooting incident I had hopes that disapproval of Cheney from both sides amid revelations of his involvement in the Plame leak would cause a resignation for health reasons, but of course Bush could not signal any weakness or admission of problems before the election and Cheney escaped any blame over Plame leak conspiracy. I expect he will now just coast quietly along in the background for the next two years. I doubt that there will be enough proof of new bombshell revelations worse than what we already know that could force his resignation.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:05 PM
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21. This Was Why Winning The Senate Was Major
There are several investigation that are bearing down on Crashcart...from his "energy task panel" to Hilburton/KBR no-bid fleeces of the treasury to that little Plame matter. This dude's toxic and was as much the reason for the GOOP "thumpin'" on Tuesday and he knows it. Crashcart lost his ability enablers DeLay & Frist and now face Waxman and Leahy (remember how much Crashcart loves the Senior Senator from Vt???)...his life got a lot tougher. Just like DeLay, Crashcart can now exit the scene with his ill-gotten gains intact and play power broker from the shadows.

The fun is to find someone who would replace this bastard. If Crashcart resigns, whomever boooosh selects will have to be confirmed by the Senate and that could be a battle royale...both within the Repugnican ranks as the ideologues go up against the polticians who want to save their asses in '08. If it's too extreme, it will not get the majority. If the choice is a moderate, then the wingnuts will go ballistic dividing their splintering party further and making booosh even more of a lame duck.
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