OK, DU, make the case for Gore:

[mb7588a]

He has the experience, charisma, and confidence to clean up the big mess the Neo-Cons have made of our country, and set us on a path to economic viability, environmental sustainability, and he can convince a good many people of a national progressive agenda.

He's fiscally conservative.

He's been against the war from the beginning, though he did support Operation Desert Fox in 1998 which cleaned up a great deal of the remainder of Iraq's weapon-producing abilities.

He is one of the nation's foremost thinker on the environment, technology, and science.

He chartered a plane and evacuated 270 people from New Orleans, with little fanfare.

Al Gore was asked about if he had been president, to which he replied, "We would not have invaded a country that didn't attack us. We would not have taken money from the working families and given it to the most wealthy families. We would not be trying to control and intimidate the news media. We would not be routinely torturing people."

8 years as a member of the House of Representatives

9 years as a United States Senator

4 presidential campaigns worth of experience

8 years as Vice President of the United States

Put him on a ticket with Feingold, Obama, or Clark and Democrats are on an unstoppable train to victory station!

And lastly, Al Gore fucking won.

[Cooley Hurd]

1. You pretty-much nailed it...

:thumbsup:

[Quixote1818]

2. His only weakness is that the Media won't leave him alone just like

Kerry and Dean. For some reason he dosen't poll well right now.

Other than that he is a fantastic candidate and absolutely brilliant!

[lildreamer316]

4. That didn't seem to matter much this time around...

but of course that may not hold true for long.
At some point, you have to trust the people to wake up. Really. You can't do everything for them, they have to learn the truth on their own. We can't control everything.
This election should show that they *do* have the ability to see beyond that bullshit at times.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

9. I wonder what Democratic candidate the media WOULD leave alone. -nt

[Admiral Loinpresser]

47. Good points.

Like Hillary, he has had high negatives (though not for as long). And the CM has treated him worse than any pol since at least Harry Truman.

On the other hand, while I don't have any data since his movie, I expect his numbers have moved positively in this post-Katrina environment. The public is ready for his environmental message now in a way it wasn't in 2000. And we have two more hurricane seasons before the election.

As to his media treatment, McCain's is already not as positive and Gore's certainly will not be as negative because there is more accountability due to the bloggers. Every election is different. America is catching up to Gore. This is his time and our poll demonstrates that.

[rman]

54. The MSM don't leave anyone alone who is a threat to the

corporate owners of the media.
And the MSM will promote anyone who has the interests of those owners at heart.

[Dems Will Win]

78. 53% JUST SAID THERE WAS NO CHANCE THEY WOULD VOTE FOR GORE

The only politician worse was Gingrich at 58%!!

Obama was 24% No chance and 34% didn't know who he was!

[blm]

85. Because people re-assess during the debates. Both Gore and Kerry would blow away

most any other Democrat or Republican during the series of debates where more people make their decisions.

Right now, people are going by the media mockery of the two men - but that doesn't mean anything when everyone is on stage together and the debates begin.

[joeunderdog]

89. He's gotta drop that CO2 tax crap. That'll scare voters.

Even if it makes sense in every way, it's far too radical to sell to the masses. People are only recently starting to believe that Global Wamring isn't a liberal lie.

I'm completely in favor of making the kinds of changes it would take to reverse the Climate Change. Unfortunately, many people aren't yet, and you can't institute changes if you don't have a platform that can get you enough votes to get the job. He needs to create a sellable platform to address the problem.

[cybildisobedience]

3. How about this:

He DID pave the way for the legislation that led to the Internet, which has been THE most democratizing force over the past six to eight years.

Without it, I shudder to think of where we would have been.

Gore is a true visionary, and he's been right about everything.

[Quixote1818]

15. Yep, he needs to nip the internet thing in the bud and turn it into a strength

which it actually is!

Gore is brilliant and he reminds me of guys like Jefferson, Franklin and Madison.

[mb7588a]

21. Yeah!

He's been on the board of both Apple and Google. He has the credentials.

[StClone]

5. After the '06 sweep

Gore chose Kerry as VP to avenge the election thefts as Bush II stepped into Historic ignominy?

[Bluebear]

6. America LOOOOVES comeback stories.

Policies and pedigree be damned. America would probably eat it up. They know viscerally that SOMETHING wasn't right in 2000. And I think they would have open ears to his message and give him the "chance he never had".

In short, it would make a great Lifetime Made For Television movie: and that's what sells in America.

19. Am I the only one who thinks He's one of the best we have?

This Guy has accomplished more in his DEFEAT than W could with his "victory", and that's a convenient truth. I hope he runs, and shows that same strength of character right into the White House where he should have been 6 years ago.

[Beam Me Up]

38. No, you're not the only one. Al Gore is a great man, a great statesman

and a great American.

By the way, welcome to DU.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

48. Franklin, Washington, Lincoln, FDR & Gore n/t

[5X]

7. K & R for Gore.

Gore / Lamont (just to stick it to lieberman).

[mb7588a]

17. lol. Gore/Lamont. Hilraious. nt.

[seafan]

8. Glad to! Been making his case since 2000.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/seafan/2

[lildreamer316]

10. The worst of the character attacks; he's already been through.

Besides, what on EARTH could they dig up now? And if anything, could it be all that bad, compared to the crap the Republicans have been actually CAUGHT doing? I mean, people are strange, but they aren't completely out of their minds (yet!).
Again, as I said in the above reply, I think the media has been somewhat neutered by the result of this election cycle. It seems to prove that people can see beyond what is presented to them--when they want to. And I firmly believe they want to, now.

Oh, and one more thing--AND I AM COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY SERIOUS:
Get Aaron Sorkin to write his speeches and be an advisor.
We had a movie star for a president once. America loves that kind of thing. What's wrong with a bit of Hollywood writing? Why is it so different from the West Wing? He obviously is not qualified to be anything but a PR guy on a real campaign, but isn't that what wins the election anyway? (I hope not,but I think it's true).
I dare them to do it.

[The Straight Story]

11. He won once, no reason he can't again (nt)

[Diane R]

12. Proud to be fifth recommend.

[wundermaus]

13. Unbeatable team...

Re-Elect President Al Gore and VP John Kerry.

Both were elected, both must serve.

History will reveal it, Justice Demands it.

The Voices of the People, restored.

[IndyOp]

59. Couldn't Kerry have more power in the Senate?

I am not kidding. I don't think of John Kerry or Wes Clark as VP candidates because they are "too senior"...

Is that wrong? Do you have examples of "senior" statespersons in past taking on the VP?

Also, if Kerry were VP he would be too old to win the Presidency in 8-years I would think...

:shrug:

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

73. I agree with the sentiment since I whole heartedly believe that

BOTH men were robbed of a legitimate victory. And, if you think about it, Kerry would have never won in 2004 because Al Gore would have been running for his second term. This has a very karmic sense of justice about it.

If Kerry doesn't fell like being VP, maybe there is a Cabinet position he would like? How about we put both Kerry and Hillary on the Supreme Court?

[jwirr]

83. Now there is my ideal slate: Gore/Kerry.

[RestoreGore]

14. Al Gore Has Found A Higher Calling

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Editorial/160260/

But of course, no mention about the work he is doing now, and what WE can do to take action to mitigate the climate crisis. But then, threads about that don't even get enough responses to stay up long enough to be seen.

[RestoreGore]

29. Reading Al Gore's Soul

http://progressivesforgore.blogspot.com/2006/11/reading-al-gores-soul.html

He isn't just someone to use as a political sound bite.

[lildreamer316]

56. I read that, and I think:

Gore: The non-president President.

Look, I agree that he does a wonderful job as a citizen leader...
....which makes him all that more desirable for a President. Someone who is OBVIOUSLY more comfortable as a common man than an elite Ivy-League I'm-richer-than-god white male.
It's perfect. Couldn't have come at a better time. He was born for this - because the office needs someone who is not going to take it for granted as his birthright.
He just IS America. He IS. He is one of the best examples of citizenship we will ever see in this lifetime. If that doesn't qualify him, I don't know what does.

ON edit: a good example of this is Jimmy Carter. Anyone who does not think he is a good man,and looking back, does not realize he was also good for the country, is crazy. Our first modern environmentally conscious president. We owe him much, and he set the stage for someone like Gore to take what he set in motion and make it famous.

[RestoreGore]

60. Gaylord Nelson...

The Senator who started Earth Day and who was instrumental in every major environmental bill passed at the time. He never ran for President but was still instrumental in not only saving lives with these bills and his subsequent environmental work after he left politics, but in giving a gift of inestimable value to this planet. It isn't about the title and Mr. Gore knows that. He knows he can effect REAL change out here quicker unencumbered by titles, protocol, party rancor, and a system that is corrosive. He also now has many resources at his disposal to accomplish just that, and I support him wholeheartedly.

[Quixote1818]

16. I think Dem's have learned how to fight back now!

Gore would be much better the second time around!

[Mabus]

18. He has credibility with other nations

We need someone that other nations can work with and Gore has proven he has their ear. Britian has him as their advisor on climate change.

[Warren DeMontague]

20. And he has a handle on the NUMBER ONE security issue facing us this century:

[mcg]

25. Yes, he was right all along on global warming,

that was the main reason I was for Gore in 2000 and
that's the main reason I'm still for him. I would
love to see him run again, he's my top choice.

[splat]

22. Gore has to make the case for Gore

Kerry demonstrated why he's not gonna make it. Gore has to be real, explain his role in inventing the Internet, and warm up.

[DarkTirade]

23. The ONLY problem I see with asking Al to run

is that most of the public doesn't know he actually won last time. Therefore they either see him as a loser, possibly a sore one because of the recounts, or they see him as a washed-up political figure who isn't involved anymore. Unfortunately, thanks to our crappy media, that perception might count for more than any facts.

[Hippo_Tron]

26. Agreed, this is Gore's only problem

I certainly hope he can overcome it because he'd be one hell of a President.

[tinrobot]

30. Nixon overcame it... so did Jackson... and Cleveland

There are several historical examples... losing a presidential election is not a hinderance to winning again at a different time.

This is a much different time... Al Gore is the man for this time.

[Hippo_Tron]

36. Jackson won the second time because Van Buren's political machine

Van Buren set up the predecessor to Tammany Hall by providing jobs to immigrant workers in exchange for votes (there was no secret ballot back then). Also, losing an election in this day and age is much different than it was back in Jackson's time.

[DarkTirade]

51. Yes, but that's why I also mentioned the whole recounting thing

Not everyone knows that he actually DID win, therefore they might take the recounting thing as a sign of a sore loser. :\

[Mabus]

43. Gore is already working on that through his work on climate change

He's given presentation to churches and he's given it to conservative groups. He's reached a lot of people who may have been turned off from him because of the media's treatment of him in 2000. He is refocusing people, people who wouldn't give him the time of day before 2000, on issues. As more and more people become of aware of him through his work on climate change they are beginning to think back about how all the pundits called him crazy or "Mr. Ozone". Gore is single-handedly undoing much of the harm that the media did to him. And he's doing it one person at a time.

Believe me, people who used to roll their eyes when I mentioned Gore now call me and want to talk about him. With the more liberal crowd the turnaround came when he was doing speeches for MoveOn. Now, the friends that were still sitting on the fence and even my conservative friends are calling and wanting to talk about him because of Inconvenient Truth. I've had several conversations with people who seemed stunned to find out how vehemently Gore has spoken out against the Bush administration. As time goes on, they realize for themselves that Gore has been right more often than they ever suspected.

He's changing people's perceptions about himself and he's doing a stellar job of it.

edited to add: Gore has also kept up with helping out fellow Dems by campaigning with and for them. He pops up and he still gets the crowds.

[MasonJar]

24. Al Gore won the presidency hands down and several unabashed

crooks took him out. The Bushes (W and Jeb) are white trash. John Kerry won also. We have Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell to thank for our 6 years of crime. Now is the time to save the world and time is running out. Al Gore is invaluable in that effort whether he runs or not. He can be the world's savior. Al Gore is a truly great man and so is war hero John Kerry. They have both fought a gallant fight. America owes both a great debt. The same can be said for General Clark. And Robert Kennedy, Jr. and so many others. Let's trust that the worst is over and that a truly inspirational Democratic ticket will emerge. I will back whomever the majority of you choose.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

27. Gore Vidal said: "Al Gore has it all."

Meaning: the planet. The one "issue" that contains
all the others.

[tinrobot]

28. Re-Elect Al Gore

Best campaign slogan ever...

[A-Schwarzenegger]

31. Looooove it!

[lonestarnot]

58. Indeedie!

[Davis_X_Machina]

32. The Jesuits taught me....

...that restitution for theft requires the restoration of the thing stolen, and not a substitute, to the person from whom it was stolen, and not a surrogate.

My old sig:

Gore in '04 -- Deus vult!

[Obamarama]

33. Here's a couple more reasons to add to your list:

1) He voluntarily enlisted to go to Vietnam, even though he opposed the war (duty, honor, service to country, et. al.)

2) He started out his career as a journalist. He knows how (and how not to) deal with the media.

3) We might get treated to a re-run of the infamous (supposedly airbrushed) photo from the cover of the Rolling Stones.

Well, okay...the FIRST TWO are legit, anyway!

Al had my vote unequivocally in 2000. He would have it again in a heartbeat were he to decide to run.

[mom cat]

34. Gore would win by a landslide! Even better than his 2000 win!

[mb7588a]

35. Empirically, yes.

In 2006 the issues were: corruption, and Iraq.

He's squeaky clean, and no skeletons. He's against Iraq. Everyone knows both of these things.

This gives him a chance to push a completely new agenda during a campaign.

[dalaigh lllama]

37. All I can add is

What you all already said. Gore's the best choice for '08.
k & r

[LibraLiz1973]

39. Dont forget -"Al Gore, So Fat I thought it was the Hindenberg"

According to Chris Matthews

If Chris Matthews hates him I count that as another reason I'd vote for him

[LTR]

53. And he should talk

Chris needs to lay off the Krispy Kremes himself!

[flying_monkeys]

40. He is too smart. That will tank him.

I love Gore - - but I fear he is too erudite for people who have listened to Faux news soundbites and GWB for 6 years. They won't be able to process what he says and they really don't want a guy THAT much smarter than them in the WH - - I think they want a bit brighter than Shrubboy, but not toooooo bright. Sadly, Joe Sixpack has found his way to the polling booths and he is hooked now, so take him into account.


Gore is BRILLIANT - - TRULY brilliant - - and Joe can't relate. Joe will vote against him.


We need smart - - Joe will go for that - - but not freaking BRILLIANT because that will raise Joe's inferiority issues.


(Yes, he won last time, but now Joe has spent 6 years being spoonfed pablum by talk radio - - I don't think Al is viable at this time. JMO :) )

[bajamary]

41. re-elect Gore

No question, it's Al Gore in 2008 for me.

Either Feingold or Obama would be terrific VPs.

[dpbrown]

42. He's really become a hero since winning the 2000 election

He's put his nose to the grindstone and made progress on global warming. I saw him in Saint Paul when he was here, before the movie, and I couldn't believe how he had the facts down and knew how to portray them.

I'd do anything for a Gore/Feingold ticket.

[readmoreoften]

44. Not to mention that he is a shining face from a happier era of American history.

I think Gore is the best choice for 2008. I also think Spitzer should throw his hat in the ring.

[Wiley50]

45. He's President Gore. What case needs to be made?

Besides, He's my neighbor. About 15 miles up the Cumberland River.

That is unless I want to take the boat and anchor across the street from his house

[yellowdawgdem]

46. I'm all for Gore

It's the right time for him now, whereas in 2004 it wouldn't have been the right time. He can energize our party now, and I think people would likely overlook his stiffness and sarcasm that got in the way before. Because underneath that is a heart of gold and a mind like a steel trap. Yeah, there are lots of people he could run with: Feingold, Obama, or ? Anybody but Lieberman, and it will work out fine.

[T Town Jake]

49. He won the first time around, in 2000. That is all.

(n/t)

[mb7588a]

50. Yeah, he knows how to do it. nt.

[LTR]

52. He won once already (nt)

[Festivito]

55. I'd love it, but would he fight this time. 3 lies, INcreVented, concedes.

When Bush debated using, did you INVENT the calculator... GORE responded with a dismissing chuckle THAT SAID:
. To my base, you know it ain't so.
. To Bush base, you'd never believe different.
. TO THE SWING VOTERS SEARCHING FOR A BIT OF TRUTH: (Gore says) I . DON'T . CARE . ABOUT . YOU .

He didn't fight. RATHER, HE CONFIRMED A LIE ABOUT HIMSELF TO SWING VOTERS WHO WOULD DETERMINE THE ELECTION.

.......
3 CON lies. Invented Internet, Found Love Canal, Prototype for "Love Story"

WE WERE LEFT HANGING IN THE WIND WITH NO RESPONSE.
The internet should have been full of responses and explanations. It took me months to find some succinct retorts.

Finally I found some multi-page long winded report. NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR TV.

TV should have been bombarded with pre-written succinct statements.
Like: Gore said "in creating" not "invented" and Gore was involved IN CREATING the internet as a Senator.
Gore, was misquoted in a major newspaper and never said that he found Love Canal.
Finally, Erich Segal himself said that indeed Gore was in part, prototype for a character in his book "Love Story"
.. and that's the news for today.

BUT, NO. We were left in a war with no fight.

........
Concedes. At least he was man enough and fighter enough to take back the concession.

But, it still made me cringe.

WHAT IF HE TAKES THIS NON-FIGHTING INTO THE WHITE HOUSE?

We are at CLASS WAR and CORRUPTION WAR with the RepubliCONs.
We need a fighter.

If Gore doesn't start looking light a fighter, with some fight in his eye ... then forget him.

Gore, Edwards, Kerry, Clinton, Obama, ... would each make fine presidents. I don't care which wins as long as one of them does.

[rosesaylavee]

65. Gore is a fighter...

The points you make in your post reflected much of my thinking about Gore prior to viewing this video of his speech he made last MLK Jr. Day.

Please watch as I think it will give you an idea of what kind of fire is in his belly now.

http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096

[troubleinwinter]

76. Not just a fighter, a true American PATRIOT

Thank you for the link. I watched it again just now after having seen it originally. I'm still stunned.

'Fire' doesn't even begin to describe it. He addressed us for an hour and five minutes (felt like 10 minutes) and never looked at notes. It came from his gut and his heart and his brain.

Is there ANY way to purchase a DVD???

[nansocal]

57. I agree...

with everything you said. ...and if he did run it would be so exciting...to put him where he should have been (in the white house) in 2000.

[Luna_C_06]

61. Purrrfect ticket

{well for me anyways :P} would be Gore-Obama or Polisi in '08.

[carnie_sf]

62. 9/11 may never have happened

on Gore's watch. Wes Clark is still my first choice, though.

[B Calm]

63. Right now we would all be driving solar powered fly cars if Gore had

been President the past 6 years..

[porphyrian]

64. He's learned what doesn't work in elections.

I still don't like his wife for being a fucking censor, but I'd vote for him.

[elehhhhna]

66. AL GORE Wants to Replace All Payroll Taxes w/ CO2 Emissions Taxes on Companies

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2689793&mesg_id=2689793

[keepCAblue]

67. AL Gore: Good for the planet. Good for America

Mass Madness Designs

[mb7588a]

70. love the planet as the O in Gore. well done. nt.

[EVDebs]

68. A green agenda creates jobs in the USA. Case closed. nt

[NastyDiaper]

69. If progressives don't abandon him. He wins.

Don't forget that Nader L-I-E-D about not campaigning in swing states.

At great cost, we learned our lesson. 11/7/2006 is just the start of the healing.

[mopinko]

71. re-inventing government- al's veep project

when al was veep he was in charge of something called reinventing government. he actually talked to federal workers about how to do their job more efficiently. he learned a ton, and put that knowledge to work, paring the federal payroll for, iirc, the first time in my lifetime.
we need this times 10 to get rid of the rot. al has a flying headstart on THE job at hand.

[nam78_two]

72. K&R/nt

[cassiepriam]

74. He is the real President, the one who got elected.

Duh.

[gulfcoastliberal]

75. If Gore runs, I'd work full-time for his campaign. He's humanity's best hope.

No other dem would make as excited.

[kiteinthewind]

77. K&R

:kick:

[Stephanie]

79. I believe if he ran he would be doing it for the sake of his grandchildren.

And that's the number one reason why I support him. He doesn't need to run, probably doesn't want to run, but he must be compelled by the fact that he is the best person to save the planet, and he loves his children and grandchildren enough to do it. Unlike the Bushes, and the Clintons, who'd let the planet perish if it was a good career move, or financially lucrative.

Sincerity, brains, passion, knowledge.

AND, if you heard his speech last year at Constitution Hall, he is one of us. He is a DU'er through and through. He knows BushCO's crimes and he's as pissed as we are.

[Downtown Hound]

80. If he ran I would devote every spare minute I have to his campaign

I have not seen a politician that has me so fired up as Al Gore does in a long time. Last time around he was dragged down by the ball and chain Lieberman. This time he'd be unstoppable.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

81. The person making the most convincing case against Gore is Gore.

He says he doesn't want to run for president again.

I see no reason to believe he's lying.

I don't believe in conscription for the armed forces, and I don't believe in conscription for the presidency. Find someone who's willing to do the job.

[Disturbed]

82. Re-Elect Al Gore.

:thumbsup:

VP?

Clark
Edwards
Feingold

[Donald Ian Rankin]

84. Go tell that to Al Gore.

Unless and until he says "I want to be president", I don't want him to be president, and I don't see any reason to believe he will.

[terip64]

86. Environment, Environment, Environment

I still think Gore/Kerry.

For me it is only fair and Gore can take care of the environment and I trust Kerry on the war.

[dalloway]

88. Ditto. Ditto. Ditto. Except I say Gore/Clark or Gore/Feingold

[KatieB]

87. Everyone - even Repugs - think 2000 was stolen from him

Hard to trash him after that....All the Repugs I've spoken to in my neighborhood like him.
He's not a lightening rod for the Repug hate machine that Hillary has been for years.