I submit that the Democrtas CANNOT lose in '08

[burythehatchet]

The incredible work that this congress is going to do is, I believe, a given. There's no way I see these guy letting us down. The people will see that.

We will be rewarded with the White House. There is absolutely no dount in my mind. Bookmark this thread.

The only thing that can do us in is the quest for power. The trait that dooms these Republicans. Its the only thing.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. If they can shore up the economy, end the war, cut some slack to working and middle class and

poor.. it will help them very very much for sure.

[H2O Man]

18. Interesting list.

There isn't any plan to end the US occupation of Iraq, but they do hope to lower the rates of US casualties. The financial investment will remain a huge drain on the economy here, and so it will hard to do the things for the middle- and working class, much less poor, unless they can capitalize on the Iraqi oil supply.

I think that you are right in the sense that they will try to create a shift in the way that people view the conflict. The leading republican thinkers realize that if, in two years, the public still is strongly opposed to the war, and connects the war with republicans and anti-war feelings with democrats, the republicans will suffer more loses in the Congress, and will lose the White House.

Hence, if people can be fooled into thinking that they have been cut that slack, and can be made to view the war as equally the responsibility of the democrats, the republicans will remain a dangerous foe.

It also seems likely that some forces within the republican machine will attempt to update the cultural wars in the communities of every state in our nation. Though we may be tempted to giggle when we hear that Newt Gingrich is running in '08, it's important that we recognize what a rattle snake is capable of.

[mom cat]

2. The only thing that could sink them is cow-towing to the DLC.

[mmonk]

3. Which they are doing.

The nation right now knows it's most pressing issue isn't increasing the minimum wage and bipartisanship.

[jgraz]

5. Wha??? You think the nation doesn't want a rise in the minimum wage?!?

[mmonk]

6. So you say its the most pressing issue right now?

Because I didn't say they don't want it.

[jgraz]

7. Try supporting yourself on $5.15 an hour if you think it's not pressing

Sure, we need to pull out of Iraq, fight global warming, repeal the torture laws and the PATRIOT act, etc, etc, etc. But raising the minimum wage is a no-brainer. Hell, B*sh already said he'll sign it.

[mmonk]

10. I give up.

[Duke Newcombe]

14. Yeah...instead, we should avoid the Christmas rush...

...and begin overreaching now, just like the Republicans. It was such a recipe for suceess for them this year...oh sorry: was that out loud?

Duke

[mom cat]

15. Overreaching for freedom is not like overreaching for tyranny.

[w4rma]

16. That will be passed within the first 100 hours of the new Congress.

The new minimum wage will be $7.50/hour.

It's already been decided.

[TahitiNut]

4. I personally have confidence that they ...

... can find a way to lose. :evilgrin: After all, they have before when it should have been impossible.
I consider the DLC the Democratic Party's Seeing Eye Dog ... able to find that path to a loss.

[Jim Sagle]

8. Of course the DLC will find a way to lose. That's their job, it's what they do.

It's who they are as well - corporate cops making the world safe for corpocracy.

They're Republican agents.

[TahitiNut]

11. Let's bask in the warm glow of a rare moment of agreement.

:evilgrin:

:rofl:

[Jim Sagle]

13. If they'd just get rid of THAT forum we'd b e agreeing ALL the time.

:toast:

[seabeyond]

9. i see it another reason. human behavior. we have an excellent

example with repugs.

after clinton many dem leaning people voted bush cause they had it with the fighting and pinned it on clinton. (even though numbers high and anti impeachment) to get repugs in that would "behave" was what 2000 was about.

it took something within a person to convince themselves to make that choice. flipped a switch. by 2002 it was on auto pilot. 2004 regardless of all the crap, it would take extraordinary for someone to have switched their vote. because it would be owning they were wrong. it would be owning part of the mess. they did it in 2006. i beliee we have a certain cushion in that by itself. saying these people had to really take a step to vote dem. they are going to validate that vote again in 2008. we have a couple more good cycles of having that vote, and wil be much easier to keep if we dont fuck up bad

we see how bad bushco had to fuck up for us to get that vote

[ruggerson]

12. Regaining the Presidency is about ONE person, not the party

Historically, parties have sometimes been in miserable shape and ONE charismatic candidate can come along and captures the imagination of the public and gets swept into office.

Sure it helps if Democrats do a bang up job over the next two years.

But if we don't have a stellar candidate it won't matter at all.

[benEzra]

17. No, a monumental screw-up could lose it...don't get overconfident.

If Feinstein et al do the DLC's bidding on the gun issue and start the ban-more-guns crap again, they could blow it. There are those who consider a ban on protruding rifle handgrips to be the most important issue on the table, but that would be a disaster. That road's been tried.

If Dems don't make any progress with the Iraq issue, it could cause problems. That's going to be a toughie, I think, but some sort of phased withdrawal + figuring out how to prop up the Iraqi government will be a necessity.

A failure to recognize that independents and crossover repubs put Dems over the top could cause problems, IF Dems start gloating too much or take the independent/crossover vote for granted. The repubs have been living THAT mistake since '00, and they just found out that there aren't enough diehard repubs to win elections without the independent vote. Dems could make the same mistake.

[gollygee]

19. I'm afraid they could always let us down

but they'd have to do something pretty bad at this point anyway.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

20. "Ain't never been a horse that couldn't be rode, ain't never been a rider couldn't be throw'd," we

could easily lose in 2008 because the pukes are down but far from out. They will exploit any Democratic Party weaknesses, mis-steps or in-fighting with the full support of the corp whore media. Besides uncontrollable events over the next two years could radically change the political landscape just like 9-11 was distorted and bent to take advantage of a frightened and gullible public by puke opportunists. While encouraged, we have no solid idea what may happen in 2008.