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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:57 PM
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DEAN should not be replaced but if that is going to happen
my choice would be John Edward. But he is going to run for President so he would never take it. So I would favor Mark Warner. Yeah I know he is DLC.....butputting a moderate face on the party when the liberals are going to run the House might be very sound political chess...
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:58 PM
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1. Dean isn't going anywhere.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:08 PM
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11. YES, Dean is staying!!!!!
and no one is going to try get rid of him.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:17 PM
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17. Dean's DNC just won a good, good battle, and Carville wants him replaced???
Not going to happen. Carville can wish his fool DLC head off. Still, it is an indication that the struggle between regular folks and the god damn DLC is not going away. The DLC is a cancer. Either it wins the whole body or gets excised.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:10 AM
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24. Getting rid of Dean would be suicide for the Democrats!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:59 PM
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2. No, showing some guts and standing up for your values is sound political chess.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:59 PM
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3. If Dean isn't DNC chair then maybe he would run for President
But I would much rather have him as DNC chair he did a great job.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:04 PM
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7. Wouldn't THAT be GREAT! I think there are a lot of peopl;e now
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 11:04 PM by napi21
who regret Dean not being out candidate! I know he waid he will not run in 08, and I believe him.

I know I'm still sorry he wasn't our candidate and our President!
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:59 PM
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4. Edwards wouldn't help.
If the DLC manages to push out Dean they will be pushing out a lot more than just him. I guarantee that if the carville's of the Democratic party are able to dislodge him at least half a million voters go with him, myself included.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:02 PM
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6. where would you go?
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 11:11 PM by Perky
and when would you be back? I think Dean should stay. I don't know about Carville.. I mean we take back both hhouses what more do you want?
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:08 PM
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12. What?
I tried my Damnedest to read that and couldn't. I really don't mean to be an asshole about it, but could you either edit or repost that last remark?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:12 PM
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14. Done
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:28 PM
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21. LOL! That's a LOT better. :)
We'd really be right where we've always been, supporting candidates who reflect our values and political beliefs. It would be the party that has left us. If you were to dig deep into why most committed Democrats support the party you'll find its because of the basic human dignity it stands for. If the carville's of the world are able to take over that party and oust the man who brought it success, they'll be telling many of us they don't respect our values or our votes.

In my mind there's only one reason Dems won this election, because Howard Dean asked the voters of Kansas, Oklahoma and Nebraska for their votes. He sent people there who took the time to explain what Democratic values really were. Carville, Schumer and Emmanuel wouldn't have done that. When, all of a sudden, all these races turned our way, they would have been completely unable to take advantage of the situation. Without Dean today we would be asking why we couldn't win against a party that beats women, molests pages, steals our money and kills our children in made up wars.

I'd start voting Green, myself. I did it in this election when it came time to vote for senator. I couldn't pull the lever for stabenow after she supported the MCA. I will never support torture or the destruction of the Constitution. The DLC would have the party turn in her direction and in the process leave many of us behind.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:00 PM
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5. I think John Edwards would hate the job, IMHO.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:04 PM
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8. Yeah you are right but if he were not running for president
He would be the ideal public persona to match up against any twit the repukes pick to replace Melman
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:05 PM
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9. Edwards? Why?
Doesn't seem the type to me.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:14 PM
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16. Doesn't Seem Like The Type To Me Either
the DNC Chair is supposed to be a bit of an attack dog. Dean is good at that, whereas it is not Mr. Congeniality's area of strength. Also, Dean has proven to be very good at organizing, early in the 2004 presidential Primary for example. Also good for DNC Chair, which has its administrative elements. Again, we have no indication that Edwards is strong in this area.

I adore Edwards, I half fell in love with him when I heard him talk about poverty and the two Americas, but I do not believe DNC Chair is the best role for him anymore than I believe POTUS is the best role for Dean.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:07 PM
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10. Dean is not going to be replaced.
If you listened to left wing radio you would know that he has support from the highest places in our party for the fine job he did this election. It's only the DLCers like Carville who need all that TeeVee exposure who are trying to plant this seed. I'm telling you I'm done with that DINO. We true Democrats will not allow Dean to be replaced.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:25 PM
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19. Hear, hear. nt
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:10 PM
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13. Has Dean said he doesn't want the job? The grassroots Dems--the ones who vote
for party Chair--are smart enough not to replace a winning performance.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:17 PM
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18. Dean is the best man for the job. He amply proved it. Period.
People who voted for this war should keep out. Of everything.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:28 PM
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20. Oh Come On
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 11:28 PM by MannyGoldstein
Don't you think, like Carville, that Mehlman did a better job than Dean?

:sarcasm:
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:36 PM
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23. Carvile is an idiot.
I know he has never been a fan of Dean's but I wonder if that is because he and Begala are itching to get back in the game in '08 and want someone at the DNC who is a DLCer.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:01 AM
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25. Carville said that????? What an idiot!
nt
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:33 PM
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22. Dean won't be replaced
This is just Carville's fantasy. The DLC doesn't control the DNC from behind the scenes. The state party chairs have more clout in the DNC than the Clintonistas.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:44 AM
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26. The liberals are going to run the House? Murtha???
Oh good christ. What the fuck.

:banghead:
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