'Truth' organization wants GOP 'gays' to come out (freeperville introspection?)

[madmusic]

WorldNetDaily ^ | November 11, 2006 | unknown

Posted on 11/11/2006 7:09:53 PM PST by kindred

Saturday, November 11, 2006

'Truth' organization wants GOP 'gays' to come out Critics says presence undermining values Republicans say they support

Posted: November 11, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

The president of Americans for Truth says it's time for the homosexuals in the Republican Party to come out of the closet.

"In recent weeks, homosexual activists have sought to 'out' various high-level GOP staffers and leaders as homosexuals, to highlight their hypocrisy in working for a socially conservative party," said Peter LaBarbera.

"Now we in the pro-family movement are calling for full disclosure for a different reason: because homosexual GOP staff and pro-'gay' policies in the party are undermining the wholesome values Republicans say they support," he said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1737127/posts

The freeper response is sometimes surprisingly introspective and insightful despite the usual scattered rants. In fact, I dare say, I respect them for it. There are some of the usual creepfreep posts that we've come to know and love. But all in all, there appears to be good grounds for agreement. Even if you detest reading freeptards, this is probably one worth a read. One thing they realize, hypocritical is not a good political tactic. They also seem to realize Gays have and deserve rights.

[ck4829]

1. Instead of giving gays the boot

Maybe the GOP should give the Fundie Nut Jobs the boot instead.

[madmusic]

2. Or maybe they could convice the fudies to find Jesus.

You know, forgiveness and all that. Actually, there are fundie posts that are more tolerant than we would expect. It appears that only the out right homophobes have a real problem.

[clichemoth]

7. It's not really about religion.

Most of these homophobes probably don't go to church at all or sleep through it when they do. They've certainly never read the New Testament or they'd realize that it's not really in there. There is only a prohibition against specific practices connected with pagan worship, which only applies if you're already a Christian in the first place. (Not to mention that there's nothing about abortion even though methods of performing them existed at the time and monogamous marriage was only mandatory for elders). And that's not taking into account any Freepers who don't profess Christianity. I've even heard atheist and pagan wingnuts spout the same tired anti-gay cliches even though their basis for doing so rests on the theocratic argument they claim not to agree with.

No, it's about them feeling secure in their little macho fantasyland where only "real men" are allowed to survive. They don't get that we don't have an average life expectancy of 17 anymore. People have time to do things other than breeding now. We don't regularly lose children to wild animal incursions anymore.

[Gato Moteado]

3. i dunno....i wasn't impressed at all by their responses.....

....not a single one seemed to understand that it's the hypocrisy of it.

about half seemed to be homophobes, the other half seemed to think as long as the gay repub kept his sexuality to himself then nobody should out them.

here was a sample of one of the idiot responders with a real doozy:

"Christians will sit out or vote third party if the GOP doesn't return to the conservative positions. Anyone who thinks they would vote for a Democrat OR a homosexual Republican is a moron."

wow, where has this freeptard been? this year dems got a decisive majority of catholic voters and about 30% of evangelicals. furthermore, i would venture to guess that a majority of dem voters consider themselves to be christians of some type....just not the frothing at the mouth, hypocritical fundies. i mean, it's not surprising...a majority of the country happens to be christians.

according to the cia factbook, the numbers look like this:
Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%, other 10%, none 10% (2002 est.)

so, no, the responses in that thread didn't impress me. i assume the freeptards that said that gay repukes should not be outed stated that for partisan reasons only. they hate having their hypocrisy pointed out and they hate losing elections.

[mondo joe]

4. Let the GOP fundies and GOP closet cases spend their lives screwing each other over.

It distracts them from screwing us over.

[pepperbear]

5. To me, this is kind of sinister....

They're trying to purge the GOP of homosexuals...I know they're the usual suspects, but still, if there was ever a situation that merited playing the Nazi card, this is it. I am not referring the reasonable freep posts, rather this "Americans for truth" outfit.

The fact that some of the freepers aren't in lockstep with this is kind of a good indicator of how creepy it is.

[madmusic]

10. Yeah, who are they? "Americans for truth" ?

Anyone know?

[Eugene]

6. Amazing. The witch hunters want GOP gays to help themselves get purged.

The Christian fundamentalists are pulling out the long knives.

While I don't like witch hunts, the Republicans are forming
a circular firing squad. It will be interesting to see how
things fall out.

:popcorn:

[malaise]

8. Apparently you missed this

'...are undermining the wholesome values Republicans say they support
What wholesome values do either the Rethugs or these mega-church morons practice?
Lying, hypocrisy, genocide, looting the treasury, stealing, denying the poor basic rights, racism, voter intimidation, etc.

Maybe it's time for Americans for Truth to out their own gays and stop fooling the sheeple. Wholesome values - HaHaHa!

[madmusic]

11. Didn't read them all, but did say some are the expected trash.

There are, if you dig, some insightful and tolerant posts. I thought, anyway.

[The Deacon]

13. The Point Is:

"...that they say they support..." (emphasis added.) There simply is no way to build a stable platform, either in politics or in life, if you begin with a hypocrisy. This is the lesson Karl Rove hasn't learned - his "base" will eventually figure out they are being used & the whole unnatural construct blows up. This is fundamentally different from the Progressive Caucus & the Blue Dog Democrats forming an alliance, by the way, since the PC/BDD alliance is formed by recognizing the equality of both participants rather than "playing to the base" as with the Rove method, leading "the base" to believe it is central to the construct.

[malaise]

14. BIngo

they should start with themselves.

[rocktivity]

9. They've got the wrong end of the stick (if you pardon the expression)

"In recent weeks, homosexual activists have sought to 'out' various high-level GOP staffers and leaders as homosexuals to highlight their hypocrisy in working for a socially conservative party...Now we in the pro-family movement are calling for full disclosure for a different reason: because homosexual GOP staff and pro-'gay' policies in the party are undermining the wholesome values Republicans say they support..."

Is THAT why the Repubs lost--because too many of the people running the campaign were gay? Or was it because too many of them were too busy leading closeted double lives to give the campaign their undivided attention? Either way, shouldn't this "pro-family council" be blaming the "straight" Repubs who hired them in the first place?

:crazy:
rocknation

[madmusic]

12. They should be blameing it on the laws they tried to pass.

It's the hypocrisy. Nothing more, nothing less. Granted, some of the fundies would disown them, but most I think might be tolerant, yes, even fundies, as long as they didn't want to marry. :)

There is a solid fundie post that says as much.

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