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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:02 AM
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Newspeak Weighs In On Daddy-Gate
Can Bush Sr. and His Team Save Son’s Presidency?



Newsweek
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15674912/site/newsweek/

Nov. 20, 2006 issue - George Herbert Walker Bush is a proud father; tears easily come to his eyes when he thinks of his children, all of them, and there is gracious deference in his tone when he talks about the son he calls, with emphasis, "The President." He is not given to boasting about or bragging on his family; he still hears his mother's voice warning him to avoid "the Great I Am," but several times over the past few years the 41st president has mentioned to visitors that the 43rd president has read the Bible in its entirety—not once, the father says, but twice, sticking two fingers in the air. If so, then the incumbent may recall the Song of Moses: "Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations; ask thy father, and he will show thee; thy elders, and they will tell thee."

Ask thy father, and he will show thee: advice that, at long last, George W. Bush seems to be taking. Last week the president lost both houses of Congress and 16 more Americans died in Iraq, bringing the U.S. death toll to 2,844, with little discernible progress in sight. The war there has now lasted 44 months, the amount of time that elapsed between Pearl Harbor and VJ Day.

In a conference room filled with commemorative shotguns in his Houston offices last Wednesday, the father settled in to watch his son's post-election press conference on TV. Lunching on pizza, Bush Senior listened as George W. Bush said the loss of Congress was a "thumping," promised to "work with" a commission on Iraq chaired by James A. Baker III and Lee Hamilton, and announced that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was resigning. Within two hours the president was in the Oval Office with Rumsfeld and his replacement: Robert M. Gates, Bush Senior's CIA director and the president of Texas A&M University, the home of Bush 41's presidential library.

In Houston the phones started ringing, and Bush 41 staffers were pulled away from their pizza. Reporters were calling and e-mailing: would 41 talk about 43's shake-up? The answer was no, though two perfunctory statements were issued (one for the College Station Eagle and one, as the former president put it, "for everybody else"). Still, the reality spoke for itself. Dad's team was back—a remarkable course correction in the political life of the son and, quite possibly, in the life of the nation.

The American people, as politicians like to say, spoke last week—and spoke in no uncertain terms. The 2006 vote does not suggest an eagerness for a sharp left turn. It seems, rather, to be a plea for a shift from the hard right of the neoconservatives to the center represented by the old man in Houston. The re-emergence of Iraq Study Group voices such as Baker, Gates and Alan Simpson—all longtime friends of Bush Senior—is not unlike the entrance of Fortinbras at the conclusion of "Hamlet." These are 41's men, and the removal of Rumsfeld—an ancient rival of Bush Sen-ior's from the Ford days—is a move toward the broad middle . . .

more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15674912/site/newsweek/



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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:16 AM
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1. Gee... Why haven't they brought in Dan Quayle?
:rofl:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:49 AM
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11. They don't want people to realize W is even stupider than Danny
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:34 AM
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2. Translation:
Daddy's got to save Junior's ass again. The Boy King has fucked up another job that Poppy got for him.

Send lawyers, guns and money.
Dad, get me out of this.


:rofl:
dbt
Remember New Orleans

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:38 AM
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3. No, the election last Tuesday
was not to bring back Poppy and his Iran-Contra Team.

This is the team that supported Dimson and his Invasion of Iraq from day one. The country doesn't need any more of their twisted, flawed vision of the world.

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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:50 AM
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4. the goof wasn't elected....what's newsweek talking about?
trying to evoke a shakespearian drama to these liars and petty thieves is bs....newsweek is a criminal run organization - the editorial board needs judicial response, like ted bundy, or tim mcveigh, or danny rollings....
bush old probably involved in the regan shooting (who benefitted from it?) and god knows what else (iran contra, jfk jr?)
notice mediawhores use b&w for oldman pic? makesem look historical more....
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:57 AM
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5. 2006 vote does not suggest an eagerness for a sharp left turn--SAYS WHO?
Any turn from the bush direction is a hard turn. You are right, bigtree. This is an Orwellian "New Speak" article.

Further, I don't want James Baker the Turd running our foreign policy. The bastard who stage managed the election theft in Florida 2000 is a warmonger himself. I heard him on NPR/Diane Rehm a few weeks ago, and his language was full of warmonger messages like "we won the Cold War with Peace through Strength". Built into this message is a presumption that anybody who did not want 10,000 nuclear warheads and hundreds of vulnerable and useless intercontinental bombers to be built would accept defeat.

The Cold War ended with a weak Soviet economic system collapse. It had nothing to do with Ronald Reagan's B-1B bomber and MX missile.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:13 AM
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14. Hear hear !
v
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:15 AM
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6. IMPEACH the Bush Klan!
We don't need them and the country don't want them! Bring back Bill Clinton!
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:19 AM
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7. Is this a good letter? Help me, somebody
I wanted to jump on this issue & write to Newsweek/New Speak. This seems kind of choppy. Any comments are welcome. I think I'll go for coffee and sit on this.


Hello editors,

I would note dryly that “any” turn from the Bush direction is a hard turn, because Bush had the most extremist direction I have ever seen.

But, more to the point, your article does not properly support a conclusion that the poll results you cite mean Americans is “a plea for a shift from the hard right of the neoconservatives to the center represented by the old man in Houston. The re-emergence of Iraq Study Group voices such as Baker, Gates and Alan Simpson—all longtime friends of Bush Senior…”. Most Americans don’t even know who Baker, Gates, and Simpson are. Your writers are just injecting those associates of George H.W. Bush into the discussion as presumptive “leaders” who shall take over running US foreign policy.

Further, Americans do have a desire for some fundamentally liberal ideas as cited in your article:

"And there’s massive support for much of the Democratic Congress’s presumed agenda. For instance, 75 percent of Americans say allowing the government to negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies to lower drug prices for seniors should be a “top priority,” including 67 percent of Republicans. Increasing the minimum wage comes next (68 percent) on the public’s list, followed by investigating government contracts in Iraq (60 percent)."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15667442/site/newsweek/
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:20 AM
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16. So far, very good.
I agree and most people who know who 'Daddy's friends' are, would most likely agree that they will be working for purely political reasons. Certainly not for foreign policy changes.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:23 AM
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18. Good letter. Keep going.
Most people who know of Daddy Bush's friends realize that they are there for purely political reasons, not for foreign or domestic changes.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:49 AM
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8. If you read like 5 verses of each chapter of the bible a day, you'll
read the whole book in 3 months. My sister does this all the time. Mebbe that's what georgie porgie did.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:52 AM
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12. Ah, but we forget that B* can't/doesn't read. But even if he
does read, the most profound evidence to the contrary that he has read the good book twice, is his utter lack of understanding the content; particularly the New Testament, and he does claim to be Christian, doew he not?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:57 AM
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13. I'm sure he has the bible on DVD series
so that the staff can replay the relevant parts to him when needed and take advantage of the modern language translations. He can't read and understand the funny pages, much less the language used in the bible.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:41 AM
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9. As if the Rule of Bush 41 was some Camelot
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 10:47 AM by formercia
that we should remember fondly. Speaking of remembering; have any of the readership thought about Iran-Contra lately and all of the dark forces involved? If I remember correctly, the name Bush was very prominent among the pages of testimony, many still classified to prevent us from seeing the real truth behind today's historical truth-of-the-moment.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:47 AM
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10. The election was not "a plea for a shift...to the center, represented by" Poppy.
Whoever wrote this is smokin' them some crack. The election was a repudiation of Republicans and Republicanism: i.e., the voters handed Conservatives their collective ass. Poppy got thrown out of office after a single term for being clearly out of touch with mainstream America, and for his illegal machinations in Iran/Contra. That's what Americans supposedly voted to return to? Recession and cowboy foreign policy? I don't fucking think so.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:14 AM
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15. In the wonderful film
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 11:14 AM by tblue37
A Fish Called Wanda Kevin Kline plays a handsome but astonishingly stupid criminal who is the Jamie Lee Curtis character's lover and partner in crime. He pretentiously reads Kant and other philosophers, and he fancies himself an intellectual. The Jamie Lee Curtis character really is smart, though, and she constantly mocks the Kline character for being an idiot, at one point calling him a stupid ape. He shakes a book under her nose and says something like, "Would a stupid ape read Hegel and Kant?"

She responds, "A stupid ape would read them--he just wouldn't understand them!"

Whenever I hear that GWB has "read" this or that book, my immediate response is, "So what? I am quite sure he didn't understand it." Putting your eyes on words and turning pages does not constitute "reading." Even an ape can mime the motions of reading.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:27 PM
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20. Love that film... Remember when Bush was at a school
reading program and got photographed with the kid's book up side down?

And remember how it all ends for Klein - he gets steam rollered (Much as what happened to Bush last Tuesday!)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:22 AM
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17. I didn't like his policies most of the time, but at least he knew what he was doing.
Look at all them briefing books in that photo. When was the last time you saw one of Dubya's crew carrying a briefing book. They carry blank legal tablets and all they write on them is requests to go to the bathroom.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:32 AM
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19. A crook is a crook, and the Bush's are a family of crooks.
Shame on them for forgetting what it's like to be an ordinary citizen. Shame on them for believing that they had a divine right to do the things they have done.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:31 PM
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21. Well said. nm
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:38 PM
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22. the only reason quayle was VP
instead of crown prince george during poppy's reign

is that they hadn't yet finished cleaning up junior's cocaine convictions and the trail of dead knocked-up hookers

they are one and the same--there's definitely oedipal weirdness in the clan, but they are both conmen in the same crime family, getting richer every second they squat in power

they both are political opportunists, allying with whomever can help them get and keep power

this whole "run-to-daddy" story is bullshit and ignores the fact that daddy's crew is every bit as venal and corrupt and degenerate as junior's
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:28 PM
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23. Daddy has had to "bail him out" of every failed business venture...
...so why would now be any different? We truly are ruled by the "Bush Crime Family" as we speak.
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